Verotel wanting $673.60 Cdn for Visa/MC reg - AND PASSPORT COPY?!! What the fuck?
 

Just received this from Verotel:

Now they want notorizied copies of my passport?! What for? So you can provide my info to identity thieves?

All I can say is - WHAT THE FUCK?!!

Verotel - you can kiss my ass.

After SIX years of doing business with you - we're finished.

Go fuck yourselves. :boid

If you aint got nothing to hide, just give it to them. Don't be so paranoid.

Not going to happen.

Are you going to shut down your sites?

Epoch/CCBill require similar money/documents. Merchant accounts require bank statements.

Not sure at this point. We're lookin' at our options. We've known about the Visa/MC deadline and charges for quite some time obviously - but it's the request for a copy of our passport that really has me mystified...and pissed.

Our sites have been in recycle/archive mode for the last while - basically winding them down and not actively promoting them.

We'll see what happens I guess...

It's all part of the KYC (Know Your Customer) and AML (Anti-Money Laundering) requirements that everyone is having to adhere to

good luck not paying a fee for processing.

http://www.scform.com/wp-content/upl..._jelly_300.jpg

:winkwink:

LOL, I here you.

You can always go back to becoming a useless meter maid. Not sure why anyone would expect a company to require you to jump through all kinds of hoops to accept credit cards.

Talk to me nicely - I'll let you go back to sucking my dick.

I say FUCK EM ALL and start accepting BITCOINS

If processors insist on intrusive IDs, then perhaps alternative currencies really will be the answer soon.

Social security numbers, copies of driver's licenses, passports - fuck that shit. Nobody needs that much information, especially faceless people across the ocean.

Exactly my thoughts!

Thank you. :thumbsup

I would have been using Zombio (or whatever) years ago, until they wanted ID. At that point I was out - same with ClickPay (or whatever - I forget the names).

I was seriously planning to reinstate my Verotel account very soon for 500 Euros, but if they want my passport now, no way Jose!

Thanks for the heads-up SilentKnight :thumbsup

passport ? i don't have a passport, it's used to travel...

Hopefully this thread will help dissuade others from considering processors that demand ID such as passports.

I recall several years ago Verotel hit us with a slew of chargebacks all at once - they claimed they hadn't been keeping track of a bunch that eminated from Europe. We had no way of verifying or appealing and wound up with revenue deductions that went on for ages. We got past that - but I never forgave Verotel for that shit at the time.

Now this - the last straw.

I'd enjoy a Verotel rep dropping into the thread and attempting justification for requiring copies of my passport - just to process for us.

Its how normal business is done on a day to day basis. Do you think because you are in porn you get to hide out anonymously and try not to pay taxes?

Name - Sure

Business Name - Sure

Bank Account Information - Sure

Tax ID Number - Sure

Owner's Social Security Number - Maybe

Copies of Driver's Licenses and Passport - Nope

Why does anyone need photo ID?

It's easier to buy a gun.

What I find ironic is that it is the smaller players who get stuck paying but everybody knows it's always been the larger players who have been responsible for the scumbag shit in our industry for years. You know banging cards, hidden cross sales, chargeback roulette. It's not the little guys you see complaining who did all that crap. It's the big scumbags who in some cases are still around today and sitting pretty. These are the people who helped to bring about all the "compliance fees" for "regulation" we see now. And shit still happens. Remember agamegirlz.com just a few months ago?

You won't be able to get any high risk processing (adult) without sending in your ID and all you personal details. These are requirements by the bank and Visa/Master.

No it isn't.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Exactamundo.

I am not happy about it either, but it's basically a 'cost of doing business' in this new anti-terror bullshit era. Merchant accounts, banks, whatever all now ask you a shitload of fucking questions, and require docs. Whether for anti-terromism or proof of citizenship. That being said..... Remember, this is what many Americans wanted, begged, and asked for.... the government to protect them from the boogie man. This is the end result of that slippery slope.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

:2 cents:

How do Corporations provide a passport?

Beneficial owner. It all comes down to % of stock you own. Lots of places require for anyone holding more than 15% of stock.

So when GM needs a processing account the US govt provides Obama's passport? Ya right

demand dinner and a movie :2 cents:

How come?

so you expect a processor to process thousands of dollars for you without knowing whom they are processing for? Only reason you're hiding behind not providing a passport is because you are hiding, a criminal, a privacy freak, or a really wierd reason. would seem any bank or processor would want to know whom they are processing payments for regardless.

What the fuck are you talking about, hiding?

Company Name
Owner's Name
SS Number
Company Address
Tax ID Number
Bank Name
Bank Account Number
Bank Address
2257 Address
Etc, etc...

Explain how a photo ID adds to this?

Why is everyone so eager and willing to bend over and take it?

Do you have to show ID to open a bank account where you are?

Do you show your passport and allow it to be copied when you use your credit card or when you go to McDonald's? Why not? Are you some kind of weirdo or privacy freak?

Criminals will use a fake ID or an ID of someone else if they need to.

This thread really delivers.........................How little many of those actually know about the business, funny how so many of them have the most opinions

In most places in the EU you do have to show ID with a cc.

Spain's got chip and pin now and they still want ID.

Wanting it for billing though.. Probably something to do with the US terror laws they pushed through for banking no?

yeah for those making less than 100 euro a week. lol

If you went to a bank to open an account or got a merchant account they would want the same things. Would you tell them WTF? The less hidden a person is the less of a chance of them committing fraud.If the internet was all based on real verifiable names only ,you would cut the bullshit out by 75 percent. lol
Personally we are dropping them they were a weak secondary at best.

You are comparing a consumer to a guy that is trying to run a business. The guy that owns McDonald's, yes, he will be providing his drivers license and bank records in order to process credit cards of the consumer.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

welcome to the real world of doing business