Here is why most adult paysite affiliates are broke
 

2013:

1:2000
1% ctr

1 sale in 200,000 impressions

1999:

1:100
10% ctr

1 sale in 1,000 impressions

That's all.

Great now that we know the problem it can be fixed, it will be fixed in the next update

Let me guess, this is all the tube sites fault, right?

I wish. 78

Piracy played a big part in it. But that isn't the point of the post.

It's not?

Is it Walmart's fault that a small mom and pop shop is losing business?

Not one guy I know pays for porn. Figure out why for yourself.


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I'm pretty sure everyone knows the traffic is not converting well.

That's a given, it doesn't explain why it's not converting.

My ratio for my best sponsor this year is 1:254

They are if they stole mom and pop's content.

:1orglaugh

Walmart does not give away stolen goods for free.

Fucking fake nick retard.

Actually it kind of is. Small shops cannot compete with WallMart low fucking prices.
WallMart is known for treating employees like shit.

Many times Employees have to work on holidays etc.


Walmart Heirs Own More Wealth Than Bottom 40% of Americans.
That pretty much says it. It's fucked up.

Yes WallMart is to blame for small shops dying. However it's just business. You can't blame them for being on top.

And how many sites were there in 1999, hundreds? Now there are millions.

:thumbsup That's what I was waiting for.

its just not a very good analogy. mom and pop stores would be small paysites, walmart would be a big cheaper paysite

to get stuff from walmart you still have to buy...

In 1999 I bought a membership because I couldn't find free porn in the entire first few pages of search engine results for "free porn". I'm being literal here. Each result was a paysite or what used to be called a circle jerk or similar setup. Where each page was at "best" (for free porn lookers) a full page ad that might not be censored. There would be several links to other pages which were just more FPA's and similar sales pages. You could join a paysite to see naked pictures, or you could keep looking and have a hard time finding. Not gonna happen ever again.

Good-bye free ride, hello WORK.
Good-bye lazy losers, hello commited business people.
Good-bye free blowjobs for links, hello paid blowjobs for links.

it's time fault

It seems we have a difference of opinion as to why most adult affiliates are broke!

see article....

http://www.oregonherald.com/n/specia...n-or-fraud.htm


remember don't blame middle men for anything....blame yourself and others for everything

that is all

:thumbsup

The problem is, you are promoting the WRONG STUFF...

CLICK HERE FOR PROOF

I've been trying to tell you this for years, but very few have listened... :2 cents:

Never heard of Usenet newsgroups in 1999?

1999 was better than that - If I got ratios that bad back then I moved...

I had an AVS site about 'Gay Wrestling' - I fed it from free sites etc. - If I had 1K hits to a feeder site I would expect 1:5 click through - Then 1:20 to convert from that.....

That's 10 sales per K - I am not exaggerating - Good times...

that article is the most poorly written article i've read in a while. i tried to read it but
it's gibberish nonsense.

Yep, cause everyone admits it right, lol

It gave me a head ache as well - Nice pic of the Visa CEO though:

http://i.imgur.com/86TakLT.jpg

It's worse than that, MisterPeabody. Notice I said affiliates. As a sponsor you have a slightly different reality. You will tend to convert better as you don't have to worry about cookie tracking. You might still be an affiliate but it's mostly your own member area. You have all these tubes where you can still toss up a video or two and make a few million impressions and eek out a couple sales a day from it.

The affiliate on the other hand with those type of numbers is facing a different reality. That's 200,000 page views to make one sale on their own site. Even if the affiliate scales and is somehow able to generate five times the productive traffic that's just 5 sales. Now consider what the bandwidth bill for that depending on the type of site.In many cases it isn't viable. If you, Mr. Peabody, get 200,000 page views to your front page otoh then you're probably filthy rich. If the affiliate only does that then they are eating Top Ramen and living in a cardboard box. See the difference? :)

If an affiliate didn't work at least ten times harder than they did a decade ago there is no way they could still be full time in the industry. It's not a question of being lazy. My point is that the model has changed. In many cases it's just no longer viable to be an affiliate for a paysite. Sure it can be good bonus money. Sure there might still be some good sites out there which do really good but as far as being the main business model those times are long gone unless you're prepared to throw tremendous amounts of traffic at the problem and overcome it with raw numbers.

I knew there was trouble when in 2007 and 2008 acquaintances who did not know that I was a porn affiliate started talking about redtube as opposed to MyFreePaysite. If I mentioned Pornhub today I hate to admit it but even my 65 year old parents would know what it is and more than likely they have been there too!

You do cams mainly, right? I'm talking about pay site affiliates. There are other models which are still going strong where you aren't joining paysite affiliate programs and being paid per membership.

But take your total net profit within the last 90 days, divide by 90, convert it to cents, and then divide that amount by the average amount of pageviews hitting your sites a day. What is that number? It's one of the few numbers which matter and it's where reality is shown.

Poop converts like shit!

Gibberish nonsense really?

after reading the article I can *clearly* see why you would prefer to call it gibberish...

You can read 8 pages of gfy troll drama and thats suitable literature

however a newspaper article about rampant billing fraud is gibberish.....middlemen and their worshipers where would we be without them

I posted this because I see a few people (affiliates) who really seem to be struggling. I'm not going to name them but they are saying things like they are selling possessions and stuff to get by. That's just sad. Being a pornsite affiliate for some has become like a get rich quick scheme where some sponsors are trying to profit off of your gullibility. I know how it is. You think things like if only I could triple my traffic or work a little more.

No. It's the model itself. The math doesn't lie. It has no agenda.

So try a different model. A winning one. There other things to do both in adult and outside of adult besides selling someone else's paysite. :)

It looks like it could be a nice read. Reading it now. Thanks. I don't know if anything would surprise me anymore. Not after seeing that agamegirlz.com or whatever site a couple months ago with those cross sales.

1:2000? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Have you considered the possibility that you just suck?

They readily admit what free tube sites they frequent yes.

next time, just tell us you wrote it so we won't waste time. no need to make it out like it's a news article. :)

I guess it would be 1:200 if I went by Nasty Dollar's stats, right? ;)

You are missing the point. The ratio is a small part of the reason for the change. Compare visits or pageviews / revenue or profit.

It was a good read. A little unorthodox but still good. It makes me think that, yes, I doubt Visa and Mastercard just decided to come up with these fees one day without at least meeting with the major adult processors. The processors in turn may have consulted their biggest customers. A large company doing millions a year (premium tube?) doesn't care about some $500 fee. A small pay site operator might. For the large pay site maybe the $500 fee is great because it helps to further eliminate the competition too.

It always seemed ironic to me that for the most part the people doing the shady things like banging cards are at the top. And the regulations and fees primarily hurt those at the bottom or middle of the industry when they were never the problem in the first place.