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xxxjay 08-23-2013 07:43 PM

Xander Corvus Tests Negative for HIV
 
God damn lot of porn dram this week!

http://ocmodeling.com/blog/2013/08/2...ative-for-hiv/

pauliexray 08-23-2013 08:05 PM

Great news for a lot of people here.

but after being exposed to hiv, doesn't it take the body like over a month to develop enough antibodies to show up on a test? shouldn't xander still wait a couple more weeks before returning to work or am i way off here?

Struggle4Bucks 08-23-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pauliexray (Post 19771430)
Great news for a lot of people here.

but after being exposed to hiv, doesn't it take the body like over a month to develop enough antibodies to show up on a test? shouldn't xander still wait a couple more weeks before returning to work or am i way off here?

I thought it was 6 months...

bronco67 08-23-2013 08:07 PM

I thought it was years that it could sit around.

zuffa 08-23-2013 08:13 PM

From the San Francisco AIDS Foundation:

What's the specific window period for different types of HIV tests?

Antibody tests ("Rapid" tests) ? give a positive result based on antibodies to HIV, not the virus itself.

2-8 weeks (up to 2 months) after infection, most people will have enough antibodies to test positive

12 weeks (3 months) after infection, about 97% of people will have enough antibodies to test positive


Antigen tests (RNA tests) ? show a positive result based on the presence of the virus. These tests are more expensive than anitbody tests, so are not offered in as many places.

1-3 weeks after infection, there will be enough viral material for a positive result


Regardless they should quarantine the first & possibly second generation exposures for the full 12 weeks. :2 cents:

L-Pink 08-23-2013 08:14 PM

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RevSand 08-23-2013 08:41 PM

From cdc:

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If you have unprotected sex or take other risks with someone who is HIV positive, it is important to understand that your infection will not show up immediately in an HIV test. Most HIV tests are antibody tests that measure the antibodies (special proteins the body makes to fight HIV) produced by the body once infected by HIV. It can take some time for these antibodies to show up in a test, and this time period can vary from person to person. This time period is commonly referred to as the ?window period.?
Most people will develop antibodies that standard HIV tests can detect within 2 - 8 weeks (the average is 25 days). But, there is a chance that some people will take longer to develop antibodies. So, if you had risky sex or engaged in risky behavior with a person who has HIV or whose HIV status is unknown, you may need multiple tests to ensure you were not infected. For example, if you got an HIV test within the first three months after possible exposure, you should get another test after those three months have passed in case the first test occurred during your window period. Ninety-seven percent of people will develop antibodies in the first three months following the time of their infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to six months to develop antibodies to HIV.
http://hivtest.cdc.gov/stronger/hiv/index.html

RyuLion 08-23-2013 08:43 PM

Yeah, I heard...

MaxCandy 08-24-2013 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RevSand (Post 19771457)


I would go with the CDC on this one

DWB 08-24-2013 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 19771654)
I would go with the CDC on this one

:2 cents:

8pt-buck 08-24-2013 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 19771654)
I would go with the CDC on this one

Can not be sure about that.

L-Pink 08-24-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 8pt-buck (Post 19771725)
Can not be sure about that.

Any why is that?

GetSCORECash 08-24-2013 06:21 AM

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Regardless they should quarantine the first & possibly second generation exposures for the full 12 weeks. :2 cents:
1) who are they?

2) who is going to police the models? Free agents.

ilnjscb 08-24-2013 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuffa (Post 19771437)
From the San Francisco AIDS Foundation:

What's the specific window period for different types of HIV tests?

Antibody tests ("Rapid" tests) ? give a positive result based on antibodies to HIV, not the virus itself.

2-8 weeks (up to 2 months) after infection, most people will have enough antibodies to test positive

12 weeks (3 months) after infection, about 97% of people will have enough antibodies to test positive


Antigen tests (RNA tests) ? show a positive result based on the presence of the virus. These tests are more expensive than anitbody tests, so are not offered in as many places.

1-3 weeks after infection, there will be enough viral material for a positive result


Regardless they should quarantine the first & possibly second generation exposures for the full 12 weeks. :2 cents:

This ^^ regardless of the logistics it is the best thing. Rigorous safety keeps this industry alive.

seeandsee 08-24-2013 07:15 AM

Window period opens all test a risk...

Robbie 08-24-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19771417)
God damn lot of porn dram this week!

http://ocmodeling.com/blog/2013/08/2...ative-for-hiv/

Yep...it's almost impossible for a man to get HIV from a woman. (unless he has an open cut on his penis...and even then it's very difficult)

JustDaveXxx 08-24-2013 02:18 PM

Love that guy!! Cool dude, class act, very responsible when it comes to his business.


Never thought he ha had it to begin with. Im not one to read into the hype and bullshit.

Some of these blogs get the info up very fast, but never fact check shit before it goes up.


AVN/Xbiz, might be a bit slower, but the facts are checked, double checked and corroborated by other in the "know." Not guesses, maybes, possibles and shit relayed by someone who has a vendetta against the person they are dishing out dirt on.


Pretty sad stuff. Its not to hard to call and ask the person before slamming them. (Fact Checking)


Just Dave

DWB 08-24-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19771857)
Yep...it's almost impossible for a man to get HIV from a woman. (unless he has an open cut on his penis...and even then it's very difficult)

Even with open wounds, only bareback the pretty ones and you'll be OK. :upsidedow

zuffa 08-24-2013 10:18 PM

Been wondering about a couple of things:

Assuming we utilize the data from the CDC, for 100% of people to be cleared via testing we have to wait through a 6 month incubation period. So:

1. Her first POSITIVE test for HIV was on August 21st 2013. Since it might take 6 months to show a positive, shouldn't we be looking at everyone in the 1st and 2nd generation going back to February 21, 2013? And shouldn't those people, regardless of how remote the possibility, be quarantined for 6 months from the date of the first positive test?

2. I keep reading articles stating that she did NOT contract HIV on a set. This implies that she and perhaps others know where, and thus when she did in fact contract the virus. It's rather important that people understand when and how "they" know this. The implications of that revelation are either benign or truly staggering.

mikesouth 08-24-2013 11:08 PM

Just to set a few things straight...first avn gets things wrong WAY more than I do

lets take the most recent where they say all 1st gen exposures have been contacted...COMPLETELY false I know two for sure that were never contacted and both are well known performers.

and second that statement about her not getting it in porn, they cant anymore know that right now than pigs can fly....complete bullshit.

The thing everyone is awful quiet about id her boyfriend Rod Daily...he retested on Thursday but his results havent been talked about...and he is a well known gay performer who also does straight.....If you think AVN gets shit right you are very wrong...they only mention what they want you to know, true or not.....

epitome 08-24-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19771857)
Yep...it's almost impossible for a man to get HIV from a woman. (unless he has an open cut on his penis...and even then it's very difficult)

Will you please refrain from being unprofessional and making false statements? The male genitalia has Langerhans cells, therefore making him susceptible to HIV infection through heterosexual sex, both vaginal and anal. If your theory were true no gay tops would have HIV.

pauliexray 08-25-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19772365)
Will you please refrain from being unprofessional and making false statements? The male genitalia has Langerhans cells, therefore making him susceptible to HIV infection through heterosexual sex, both vaginal and anal. If your theory were true no gay tops would have HIV.

actually epitome you are both right.

yes the shlong has the cells youre talking about. but nevertheless the point robbie is trying to communicate is still true; it is "very very unlikely" that a male will get hiv from a female through vaginal intercourse.
dr. miao said so himself.

Robbie 08-25-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19772365)
Will you please refrain from being unprofessional and making false statements? The male genitalia has Langerhans cells, therefore making him susceptible to HIV infection through heterosexual sex, both vaginal and anal. If your theory were true no gay tops would have HIV.

Would you please stop telling ME that I'm "unprofessional"?
It's fucking laughable to me.

TurboAngel 08-25-2013 10:52 AM

Well let's hope he passes another on in 12 weeks.

epitome 08-25-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pauliexray (Post 19772380)
actually epitome you are both right.

yes the shlong has the cells youre talking about. but nevertheless the point robbie is trying to communicate is still true; it is "very very unlikely" that a male will get hiv from a female through vaginal intercourse.
dr. miao said so himself.

Sorry, but it is only 10x less likely than receptive anal intercourse and almost on par with insertive anal intercourse. Far from unlikely, or to use Robbie's words, "almost impossible."

I am going to trust the CDC over a doctor that makes his money testing talent so that they can shoot bareback. :2 cents:

epitome 08-25-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19772414)
Would you please stop telling ME that I'm "unprofessional"?
It's fucking laughable to me.

Spreading incorrect information that creates a false sense of wellbeing about a life changing STD is pretty unprofessional. What do you think we should call it light of you having been corrected by multiple people over time?

idolbucks 08-25-2013 12:29 PM

Scary times my friend

Robbie 08-25-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19772769)
Spreading incorrect information that creates a false sense of wellbeing about a life changing STD is pretty unprofessional. What do you think we should call it light of you having been corrected by multiple people over time?

I haven't been "corrected" by anybody.

You're wrong plain and simple. I've googled this up in other threads and put in all the links about it before so I'm not going to do it again.

For a man with no abrasions on his penis to catch HIV from a WOMAN during vaginal intercourse is ALMOST impossible.
HIV is hard to catch, thank God, or we'd all have it.

pauliexray 08-25-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19772762)
..,a doctor that makes his money testing talent so that they can shoot bareback. :2 cents:

Are you serious? The dude doesn't make any money from this, he does it just out of his own goodwill. You should research him, he is one of the original doctors that first discovered HIV in the 80s

Phoenix 08-25-2013 04:28 PM

so if he doesnt have it.....how did she get it?

needles? or just unlucky unprotected sex with some other infected.

im so glad i never got into that side of the business....even just producing it must be a nightmare of stress right now...let alone the people doing the fucking

Robbie 08-25-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19773025)
so if he doesnt have it.....how did she get it?

As I understand it...that's not her boyfriend. That's just a guy who is male talent who shot a scene with her.

The story making the rounds is that her boyfriend shoots gay for pay porn and is the one who passed it to her.

Of course, I don't think that any of us should have this information to begin with. And if I were that girl I'd be suing the hell out of some people.

Medical records are supposed to be private. Not shared on GFY and countless other message boards.

Hell, I was told this week that she actually found out she was infected by hearing about it from people reading GFY!
That's fucked up. And it's one of the reasons that people are scared to be tested by the "industry".

Between this and the Donny Long fiasco a couple of years back (with every adult performers names and addresses being posted online straight from the AIM database), there is no way in hell that I would let Claudia Marie be tested by any of these "industry" testing centers.

Not only are they charging more than double what the cost of the test is (we use Lab Corp for ours...and it's $59 for the panel), but they are also doing stupid shit like this with people's medical records.

It won't be long before some people end up paying BIG TIME financially for giving out people's medical records.

Nathan 08-25-2013 10:16 PM

I agree with Ronnie on this one. Releasing names to the public is insane and only causes hysteria. There is a protocol in place, let it be worked. Nobody should be shooting right now and all models affected are contacted by doctors.

That's how it has to work and how it is the only legal way! All thirds discussions here by people who quote some website or the CDC is madness and just causes misinformation.

The industry does not use antibody tests, so continuously posting info about incubation and antibody tests from the CDC is useless! The industry uses very sensitive RNA tests which react after a week or less in most cases. And before someone now says that all the articles talk about CET and TTS finding antibodies in their tests of the first performer: some stupid journalist fucked up and misinformed everyone with wrong information and everyone picked up on it. That is clearly all and there is no conspiracy here.

Sadly until all producers do not use the same system for testing there will always be fights happening since someone wants an advantage somewhere. I hate that these fights are fought on the back of our most important assets: the performers!

gabe100 08-25-2013 10:46 PM

Sorry man but you are Robbie are clueless about shooting out here. Faster these names get out the better.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19773208)
I agree with Ronnie on this one. Releasing names to the public is insane and only causes hysteria. There is a protocol in place, let it be worked. Nobody should be shooting right now and all models affected are contacted by doctors.

That's how it has to work and how it is the only legal way! All thirds discussions here by people who quote some website or the CDC is madness and just causes misinformation.

The industry does not use antibody tests, so continuously posting info about incubation and antibody tests from the CDC is useless! The industry uses very sensitive RNA tests which react after a week or less in most cases. And before someone now says that all the articles talk about CET and TTS finding antibodies in their tests of the first performer: some stupid journalist fucked up and misinformed everyone with wrong information and everyone picked up on it. That is clearly all and there is no conspiracy here.

Sadly until all producers do not use the same system for testing there will always be fights happening since someone wants an advantage somewhere. I hate that these fights are fought on the back of our most important assets: the performers!


Nathan 08-25-2013 11:13 PM

I am far from clueless gabe. As I said, none of this will ever work until all producers use the same system. It is sad they do not, especially since APHSS is free and there is ZERO drawback from using it.

RevSand 08-26-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19773046)
As I understand it...that's not her boyfriend. That's just a guy who is male talent who shot a scene with her.

The story making the rounds is that her boyfriend shoots gay for pay porn and is the one who passed it to her.

Xander is not the BF. He is a male talent who is on public record as working with her most recently.

The Bf stated on his twitter that his test comes back on Tuesday and he did not use CET or TTS to test in order to keep it private. He his pretty confident that it was not from him. He does also work for kink on the gay side.

DWB 08-26-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19773231)
I am far from clueless gabe. As I said, none of this will ever work until all producers use the same system. It is sad they do not, especially since APHSS is free and there is ZERO drawback from using it.

In your opinion, why doesn't everyone use the same clinic?

Price? Trust issues? Location? Privacy issues?

Whatever it is, seems that needs to be resolved before you can all get on the same page.

bronco67 08-26-2013 10:39 AM

Even with a clean test, wouldn't anyone doing a scene with him have to think deeply about it first?

ezgirl 08-26-2013 02:18 PM

Where is the test result of her bf? The single most important test relating to this event and no word on it. The day she found out her results is the day he should have gone in for testing.

LeRoy 08-26-2013 02:27 PM

Talk about dodging a bullet!

mikesouth 08-26-2013 02:59 PM

Her BF Rod Daily is testing at an independent facility (not CET or TTS) and has tweeted the results will be in tomorrow (Tues)


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