29% of everyone in the European Union think the Sun revolves around the Earth.
 

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http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/a..._report_en.pdf

53% think psychology is science
41% believe astrology is science
34% of all Europeans think history is science
1 out of 3 euros think homeopathy is science

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40% of all Euros think we depend too much on science and not enough on faith
37% believe science is not important
37% believe in luck more than science

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Nice % i didnt know it as well

Psychology ain't science? Sure it is. It is the same fucking stuff that we call biology when it studies other animals than humans (in common language). Humans being the target of the study doesn't make it hocus pocus.

don't be daft. psychology is hardly science. you can't prove to any reasonable level a psychology experiment.


"psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability."

23% thought humans lived at the same time dinosaurs were around? wow.

Damn you Raquel Welsh. Damn you to hell.

Irony... :glugglug

Psychology | Define Psychology at Dictionary.com
"the science of the mind or of mental states and processes"

Psychology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Psychology is an academic and applied discipline that involves the scientific study of mental functions and behaviors."

it probably depends on what area of psychology you study...

if you are doing research on interpreting dreams, then it's probably debatable if that is science...

if you are doing "pavlov's dogs"-type of experiments, it's hard to argue that those experiments are not scientific...

It's far from complete compared to other forms of study but saying it's not a science is a grasp at best... That is basically the same as saying that nutrition isn't science because we haven't found the perfect diet yet.

of course a magazine called "Psychology" will exclaim that psychology is science. That doesn't make it so.

not at all an accurate comparison. nutritionists not finding the perfect diet isn't comparable to the fact that psychology is not science.

staggering!

psychology , philosophy and anthropology are not sciences , i love them all :)

Pavlov wasn't a psychologist. Psychology took his discovery and ran with it.

" In 1904, Pavlov was awarded the Nobel laureate "in recognition of his work on the physiology of digestion, through which knowledge on vital aspects of the subject has been transformed and enlarged".[13]

While at the Institute of Experimental Medicine he carried out his classical experiments on the digestive glands which is how he eventually won the Nobel prize mentioned above.[14]

Pavlov investigated the gastric function of dogs, and later, children,[15] by externalizing a salivary gland so he could collect, measure, and analyze the saliva and what response it had to food under different conditions. He noticed that the dogs tended to salivate before food was actually delivered to their mouths, and set out to investigate this "psychic secretion", as he called it.

Pavlov’s laboratory housed a full-scale kennel for the experimental animals. Pavlov was interested in observing their long-term physiological processes. This required keeping them alive and healthy in order to conduct chronic experiments, as he called them.

These were experiments over time, designed to understand the normal functions of animals.

Americans Scientific Knowledge and Beliefs about Human Evolution in the Year of Darwin | NCSE

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you missed the thread for that. this isn't it.

I was referring to this ''gem''

I see.

people are people everywhere.

a dashed line on a map doesn't impact basic humanity.

based on these polls from both USA and Euro Union, it's obvious many humans simply are not interested at all in science, thus their lack of wanting to learn science, leading to their not understanding science.

I lost faith in humanity :/

only in america

It is science; I won't step back from that. Neither all science should be valued with same criteria. Psychology is essiantially biology; the only difference is that it is applied to humans. Biology is science, you can agree to that? And biology studies humans too, as any other living thing. Psychology is just a subset of biology.

This "psychology isn't science" relates to religion. Like we have soul and such, and studying human behaviour, etc. is some fairy tail stuff that is more religion than science. But if you observe humans as mere animals; there is no fucking reason not to keep psychology as a science.

psychology is not a subset of biology. please just stop.

OK, then what it is when you observe and study a specie called Homo sapiens? It is biology, but tell me what you think it is?

The real question is why do you feel the need to categorize psychology as a science?

You're in Euro Union right?

Do you believe astrology is Science? It's observation and study.

Why do you feel to categorize it as not science?

"Biology is a natural science concerned with the study of life and living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, evolution, distribution, and taxonomy."

Biology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is biology, I do live in EU (and euro area), and the answer it being science is correct.

No, astrology isn't science. Although astronomy is.

science
ˈsʌɪəns/
noun
noun: science

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

your quote says psychology is not "scientifically rigorous"

it is a very grey area at best and one can not disqualify psychology as a science even with mental gymnastics of olympic caliber...the very definition of science is damning to your claim :2 cents:

I would very much like to call it science, I really would. It's not an insult to point out it's not science. The field of psychology is important, it's just not scientific.

you think psychology is systematic? come on now. it's the polar opposite.

I disagree. At least as long as observing and writing a study about a monkey scratching its ass is science. It makes no fucking sense why it wouldn't be science when you observe and study human scratching its ass.

You can't repeat some destruction of dinosaurs either, but sure as hell paleontology is science.

How it is not systematic?

:thumbsup your view is duly noted on the poll results. :)

it should be extremely easy for you to prove it is systematic. much more easy to proof something exists rather than proof something does not exist. besides, you're the one that took that 1 poll result and ran with it. I was going more in the Euros believe the SUn revolves around the Earth. either way.

so where's your proof psychology is systematic please.

:)

Okay, here is my proof. It is in the form of example study.

Test group is 200 humans; 100 Americans and 100 European. Test subjects are put to glass cages and kept there 24 hours, that is the time for observation too. Goal is to observe that are there differences in ass scratching habits between these two human groups. Further studies may include finding out that do these different ass scratching habits occur from genetical differences and or from learnt behaviour models.

this simply is a procedure for collecting data in an casual observational setting. which is fine, don't get me wrong. Perhaps something useful can be gleaned by such observations. But this example in no way illustrates that the study of psychology is systematic. it just proves that a observational procedure can be outlined. the variables involved in this experiment also reveal the risk in calling psychology science. The # of variables for observation here is astronomical.

Again, it's important, I would like to see it be as scientific as possible and I think it tries.

ohh i didn't realize you didn't know the definition of the word science. My bad man. Carry on.

systematic
sɪstəˈmatɪk/
adjective
adjective: systematic

done or acting according to a fixed plan or system; methodical.


psychology
sʌɪˈkɒlədʒi/
noun
noun: psychology; plural noun: psychologies

1.
the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behaviour in a given context.


sounds very scientific and systematic to me...are you saying there is no systematic way to study human behaviour because all humans are different?...or bashing psychology because it is a relatively new field of science and has flaws?...

obviously i was carrying on.

and surprised. you're usually better than this.

my bad.