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Adult-biz 05-29-2015 01:58 AM

Ross William Ulbricht (Silk Road) Sentencing
 
Sentencing for this guy today. Prosecutors want longer than the 20 year mandatory minimum and this should be supported what with the enormous drug trafficking and it`s links to at least 6 deaths. What do you feel?

At Least 20 Years in Prison Await Silk Road Founder

kane 05-29-2015 02:06 AM

After reading the big Wired story on him earlier this week my understanding is that nobody was actually murdered. He hired people to kill others, but they were all faked. Unless I misunderstood.

Either way, he is going away for a very long time. Even if nobody died he did try to order the deaths of others and they will want to make a example out of him to discourage others from running a site like this. I would imagine he will spend the rest of his life in jail.

Adult-biz 05-29-2015 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20485202)
After reading the big Wired story on him earlier this week my understanding is that nobody was actually murdered. He hired people to kill others, but they were all faked. Unless I misunderstood.

Either way, he is going away for a very long time. Even if nobody died he did try to order the deaths of others and they will want to make a example out of him to discourage others from running a site like this. I would imagine he will spend the rest of his life in jail.

Yep, no proof about people being murdered but the prosecution are stating that the drug trafficking/supply has lead to at least 6 deaths hence the increased sentencing. Ulbricht`s people are stating that their is no proof that his marketplace was actually responsible.

kane 05-29-2015 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BettingMethodology (Post 20485205)
Yep, no proof about people being murdered but the prosecution are stating that the drug trafficking/supply has lead to at least 6 deaths hence the increased sentencing. Ulbricht`s people are stating that their is no proof that his marketplace was actually responsible.

Ah, that makes sense. I know his lawyer argued that he was just a dumb kid who started this as an experiment and made a mistake, but clearly as it got huge he knew what he was doing and when he paid to have people killed that is no mistake.

The article I read said he still may have a second trial on the charges of him hiring a person to kill someone because the guy he hired was a DEA agent that was undercover, however, it turns out that DEA agent was also blackmailing Ross so who knows if there will someday be more charges.

Adult-biz 05-29-2015 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20485211)
Ah, that makes sense. I know his lawyer argued that he was just a dumb kid who started this as an experiment and made a mistake, but clearly as it got huge he knew what he was doing and when he paid to have people killed that is no mistake.

The article I read said he still may have a second trial on the charges of him hiring a person to kill someone because the guy he hired was a DEA agent that was undercover, however, it turns out that DEA agent was also blackmailing Ross so who knows if there will someday be more charges.

I must read those two Wired stories today.

kane 05-29-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BettingMethodology (Post 20485214)
I must read those two Wired stories today.

They are long and very detailed, but fascinating.

lezinterracial 05-29-2015 02:55 AM

I believe he should get off. Too much corruption on the part of the feds that busted him to believe any of the evidence.

Dead 05-29-2015 03:41 AM

Total set up on the feds part...a good defense should see him walk. Unfortunately , they will want to make a point, the guys actions are nothing short of genius, and for this, he may see some time.

Captain Kawaii 05-29-2015 04:58 AM

His mommy and daddy say he is a good boy. Just misunderstood. His friends and people who do not know him say he is cool. So...USA in 2015. He should be let go and given a million dollars for all his pain and suffering. Maybe more.

MiamiBoyz 05-29-2015 05:08 AM

The "war" on drugs is bullshit. Let adults do what they want to do.

Fuck the government babysitters. Look at what a great job those assholes do!

It is a war on people freedom to choose and nothing more.

JFK 05-29-2015 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BettingMethodology (Post 20485214)
I must read those two Wired stories today.

:2 cents::thumbsup

Adult-biz 05-29-2015 10:27 AM

Ulbricht argued that the marketplace concept was that people should be allowed to buy and sell whatever they want. Does this have some logic? (obviously any dealings with anything relating to minors is totally off-limits and reason enough for the harshest punishment but drugs, weapons, counterfeit goods and so on?).

JIBCONTENT 05-29-2015 10:31 AM

They will get him for murder for hire next. After reading the wired piece - and if the hits he ordered are true (I doubt the gov made that shit up, but it is possible) then I say life in the slammer

BlackCrayon 05-29-2015 10:49 AM

he will do more time than the average murderers and child molesters get. gotta 'set an example'..

JIBCONTENT 05-29-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 20485251)
Total set up on the feds part...a good defense should see him walk. Unfortunately , they will want to make a point, the guys actions are nothing short of genius, and for this, he may see some time.

I read everything about him and he was an inept coder (not even a coder really) that set up foolish barely hidden servers for a system that required very little technical creativity. His system allowed cartel killers to sell heroin to suburban 16 year olds.

What exactly about him was "Genius"?

Oh by the way if this guy is such a hero to you then why haven't you heard that he will be sentenced today for at least 20 years (mandatory minimum) uh yea He May see some time

kane 05-29-2015 01:46 PM

Wired is now reporting that Ross has received life in prison without the possibility of parole.

bronco67 05-29-2015 05:57 PM

So six people lost their lives buying drugs where they shouldn't have bought them from? And he's going to get the book thrown at him?

What about all of the Wall Street bankers who tanked the economy? Don't tell me that crime wasn't the catalyst for more than a few deaths. Probably a lot more than six.

Why the fuck aren't they going to jail?

kane 05-29-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20485904)
So six people lost their lives buying drugs where they shouldn't have bought them from? And he's going to get the book thrown at him?

What about all of the Wall Street bankers who tanked the economy? Don't tell me that crime wasn't the catalyst for more than a few deaths. Probably a lot more than six.

Why the fuck aren't they going to jail?

Because Wall Street bankers control our elected leadership through lobbyists and money and therefore create the laws. Not only did they not go to jail, they convinced the government to give them billions in bailouts.

L-Pink 05-29-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20485733)
Wired is now reporting that Ross has received life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Actually he received 2 life sentences.

If he wasn't young, white, sitting behind a keyboard and was involved with facilitating the amount of drugs, guns, etc, that he did not one person would give a shit.

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20485928)
Actually he received 2 life sentences.

If he wasn't young, white, sitting behind a keyboard and was involved with facilitating the amount of drugs, guns, etc, that he did not one person would give a shit.

Just finished the wired article which was amazingly well written and looked up the indictment itself. It's only 11 pages, 7 counts... worth reading as well for clarity

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default...Indictment.pdf

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 20485251)
Total set up on the feds part...a good defense should see him walk. Unfortunately , they will want to make a point, the guys actions are nothing short of genius, and for this, he may see some time.

Yeah, "a total setup"... he willfully and knowingly created the worlds largest online drug purchase and distribution system. He also attempted to have at least 5 people murdered (paid to have them killed and believed they were killed). At least 6 people died from illegal drugs bought there WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE and he was not only unsympathetic but defiant about it.

Hardly a genius... just another shit disturber desperate to achieve what he considered "success", who created a massive marketplace for murder, drugs and CP. You'd have to be a total fuckhead to either look up to that, defend that or celebrate that.

JIBCONTENT 05-30-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486290)
Yeah, "a total setup"... he willfully and knowingly created the worlds largest online drug purchase and distribution system. He also attempted to have at least 5 people murdered (paid to have them killed and believed they were killed). At least 6 people died from illegal drugs bought there WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE and he was not only unsympathetic but defiant about it.

Hardly a genius... just another shit disturber desperate to achieve what he considered "success", who created a massive marketplace for murder, drugs and CP. You'd have to be a total fuckhead to either look up to that, defend that or celebrate that.

SPOT ON :thumbsup

anexsia 05-30-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20485202)
After reading the big Wired story on him earlier this week my understanding is that nobody was actually murdered. He hired people to kill others, but they were all faked. Unless I misunderstood.

Either way, he is going away for a very long time. Even if nobody died he did try to order the deaths of others and they will want to make a example out of him to discourage others from running a site like this. I would imagine he will spend the rest of his life in jail.

There's already a TON of copycat Silk Road sites, there's now a pretty big thriving darknet drug market.

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 20486313)
There's already a TON of copycat Silk Road sites, there's now a pretty big thriving darknet drug market.

Until this week, none of them had to worry about life in prison.

JIBCONTENT 05-30-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486317)
Until this week, none of them had to worry about life in prison.

Again spot on.

Funny how he tried to hide behind silly "Libertarian" ideals to justify being a drug kingpin drunk on money and power.

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 02:24 PM

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Pantiebay 05-30-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486290)
Yeah, "a total setup"... he willfully and knowingly created the worlds largest online drug purchase and distribution system. He also attempted to have at least 5 people murdered (paid to have them killed and believed they were killed). At least 6 people died from illegal drugs bought there WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE and he was not only unsympathetic but defiant about it.

Hardly a genius... just another shit disturber desperate to achieve what he considered "success", who created a massive marketplace for murder, drugs and CP. You'd have to be a total fuckhead to either look up to that, defend that or celebrate that.

Not that i agree with what he did. But you have to give him credit for trying something different. He probably got caught in the moment and didn't realise the trouble he was getting into. You on the other hand are quite rude and obnoxious and your negative comments show the kind of person you really are. Thanks for adding your childish comments on my thread. God only knows what sparks your negativity??? Faliure perhaps......Catch ya later or hopefully......NOT

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486362)
Not that i agree with what he did. But you have to give him credit for trying something different. He probably got caught in the moment and didn't realise the trouble he was getting into. You on the other hand are quite rude and obnoxious and your negative comments show the kind of person you really are. Thanks for adding your childish comments on my thread. God only knows what sparks your negativity??? Faliure perhaps......Catch ya later or hopefully......NOT

He "tried something different"? He fucking created an illegal marketplace for drugs, murder for hire, CP and everything else that was illegal. Thats not "trying something different". Thats a paranoid sociopath breaking the law and where money and greed let him to trying to murder people among other things.

My negativity? First of all, lets be clear cockholster,... everything this fucking criminal did was negative. He contributed nothing to the world, he innovated nothing... drunk on his own sense of superior intellect, he tried to evade government and law enforcement and facilitate illegal drug sales with no trace of empathy or morality or ethics.

Its insane to watch a bunch of worthless twats online worship a common criminal.

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486374)
He "tried something different"? He fucking created an illegal marketplace for drugs, murder for hire, CP and everything else that was illegal. Thats not "trying something different". Thats a paranoid sociopath breaking the law and where money and greed let him to trying to murder people among other things.

My negativity? First of all, lets be clear cockholster,... everything this fucking criminal did was negative. He contributed nothing to the world, he innovated nothing... drunk on his own sense of superior intellect, he tried to evade government and law enforcement and facilitate illegal drug sales with no trace of empathy or morality or ethics.

Its insane to watch a bunch of worthless twats online worship a common criminal.

I worship nothing brother. The only reason i commented was because your quick to judge!! After seeing you shitty comment on my thread couldn't help notice you love to put people down. I work day and night to achieve success and your negative attitude is disgusting. I use my intuitive day in day out to achieve my goals and im trying something different but your quick to bitch. You obviously have a very mundane life and get off by putting other people down..Great white label you have there by the way. If you want a chat hit me up @ [email protected]!!

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486396)
I worship nothing brother. The only reason i commented was because yourquick to judge!! After seeing you shitty comment on my thread couldn't help notice you love to put people down. I work day and night to achieve success and your negative attitude is disgusting. You obviously have a very mundane life and get off by putting other people down..Great white label you have there by the way. If you want a chat hit me up @ [email protected]!!

Quick to judge?

You mean "quick to spell correctly"

And there is a difference between "positive" and "delusional". Criminals are criminals. End of story.

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486398)
Quick to judge?

You mean "quick to spell correctly"

And there is a difference between "positive" and "delusional". Criminals are criminals. End of story.

Im not here for an english lesson. I'm here for business shame i cant say the same about you. Have you got any original ideas you want to share befor you go back to your negative trolling?

Lookimg forward to your email maybe even a skype?

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486404)
Im not here for an english lesson. I'm here for business shame i cant say the same about you. Have you got any original ideas you want to share befor you go back to your negative trolling?

Lookimg forward to your email maybe even a skype?

The problem is that you NEED an English lesson. And obviously you need some business lessons, if this is the final product. I do have an original idea for you though. Mikrosoft. It is a software company. I think it should build a spreadsheet program called Eksel. Maybe a word pressesor called Werd You seem to be the perfect guy for project lead.

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486407)
The problem is that you NEED an English lesson. And obviously you need some business lessons, if this is the final product.

Whats your business bro a whitelabel or 2. Im not even live yet. You have no idea. Hide behind your keyboard rather than email me.Says everything really dont it.By the way i am english so i dont need a lesson.cheers

shake 05-30-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20485593)
he will do more time than the average murderers and child molesters get. gotta 'set an example'..

Get tired of hearing about all this example shit... doesn't seem right to lock someone up for life for government propaganda & PR.

Not saying he shouldn't be in jail, I just think the punishment should fit the crime, the punishment shouldn't fit the government's current need for publicity of their legal systems effectiveness.

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486410)
Whats your business bro a whitelabel or 2. Im not even live yet. You have no idea. Hide behind your keyboard rather than email me.Says everything really dont it.By the way i am english so i dont need a lesson.cheers

if you were my "bro", you'd be able to spell. I mean seriously, its one thing to proof read an entire site and miss something here and there... but misspelling the name and domain? That is an epic fuckup... particularly when you won't even admit it. It doesn't help you to point out that English is your native language.

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486415)
if you were my "bro", you'd be able to spell. I mean seriously, its one thing to proof read an entire site... but misspelling the name and domain? That is an epic fuckup... particularly when you won't even admit it.

Its for design purposes Y looked shit. The domain doesnt have to be in any particular grammer ie Crakmedia, Youjizz manica money slutload... Only negative jealous people with nothing better to do but hide behind a keyboard would even bother picking up on such a trivial thing when the product has great potential. Why dont you skype me and we can discuss this further.You must have failed at life real bad to be trolling new business threads to get your kicks.

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486416)
Its for design purposes Y looked shit. The domain doesnt have to be in any particular grammer ie Crakmedia, Youjizz manica money slutload... Only negative jealous people with nothing better to do but hide behind a keyboard would even bother picking up on such a trivial thing when the product has great potential. Why dont you skype me and we can discuss this further.You must have failed at life real bad to be trolling new business threads to get your kicks.

I was just commenting on your spelling and how it reflects on you and the fact that you weren't even aware it was misspelled... even though now you are lying and trying to pretend it was all by design.

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20486421)
I was just commenting on your spelling and how it reflects on you and the fact that you weren't even aware it was misspelled... even though now you are lying and trying to pretend it was all by design.

Its no lie it looks better the way i have used it. And it can be used both ways. Educate before slating me TYPE THIS IN YOUR ADDRESS BAR en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pantie GFY

TheSquealer 05-30-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486424)
Its no lie it looks better the way i have used it. And it can be used both ways. Educate before slating me TYPE THIS IN YOUR ADDRESS BAR en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pantie GFY

I get that the almost never used spelling is a variant. However, no one uses that spelling. Don't trust me,...
https://www.victoriassecret.com/pant...op-all-panties

Pantiebay 05-30-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantiebay (Post 20486424)
Its no lie it looks better the way i have used it. And it can be used both ways. Educate before slating me TYPE THIS IN YOUR ADDRESS BAR en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pantie GFY

One last thing if you where searching buy used panties what would you type into google

Buy worn panty

or

Buy worn PANTIES

I think that wraps everything up for us....Owned again bro


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