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nico-t 04-11-2016 01:22 PM

BETRAYED: EU sticks two fingers up at Dutch voters and opens door to 45 MILLION Ukrainians
 
Brasshat copy & paste mode activated:
Dutch referendum: EU to press ahead with visa-free travel for Ukrainians | Politics | News | Daily Express

No deaths = not a real brasshat copy & paste? Well there is a death in this article...



*pause*



*ominous music build up*




... THE OFFICIAL DEATH OF DEMOCRACY

Google Expert 04-11-2016 01:28 PM

It's just visa-free travel.

Would you rather have permanent Somali rapefugees instead?

ITraffic 04-11-2016 01:32 PM

why the hate for ukranians so much?

Google Expert 04-11-2016 01:34 PM

You're about to open borders to 80 million Turks, you aren't worried about that?

JFK 04-11-2016 01:39 PM

There goes Europe :disgust

nico-t 04-11-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 20831231)
It's just visa-free travel.

Would you rather have permanent Somali rapefugees instead?

It's way bigger than that as i already explained in another topic. This is about democracy, which is proven to be non existent now because of our referendum. Everybody already knew it, but now we've proven it. This will open the door to more BREXIT voters, more skepticism towards the EU dictatorship, more people who will wake up.

The EU, who is responsible for our open border policy towards your example of Somali and other islamic rapefugees. To the fucking mess of the huge waves of them who cause chaos in Europe, leading to terrorist attacks and deaths. The EU who is responsible for billions of our tax money to shitty poor countries.

Now tell me... After all these giant fuckups, would you vote FOR another one of their plans that THEY want for their expansion? Or would you vote AGAINST one of those plans?

It is all intertwined. Look at the big picture and not what the media tells you.

ITraffic 04-11-2016 01:44 PM

Britain?s Pro-Kremlin Pols Swayed the Dutch Referendum on Ukraine - The Daily Beast

the anti-ukraine movement was created and supported by the kremlin.

don't be so naive.

plus the vote was always non-binding anyways.

Sarn 04-11-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20831213)
... THE OFFICIAL DEATH OF DEMOCRACY

:1orglaugh

nico-t 04-11-2016 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 20831252)
You're about to open borders to 80 million Turks, you aren't worried about that?

Everyone is against that as well here in Holland, but they do it anyway. You cannot imagine the criticism of the people against that plan. But it's another example of EU stepping on the people.

That's why this referendum was so important! It's the first step! Read my other post. Look at the whole picture instead of the details. I thought out of all people you'd understand, i generally like your point of view in your posts.

ITraffic 04-11-2016 01:51 PM

if it upsets you that much man then stop being such a beta cuck, get off your computer and do something about it.


WebCashMaker 04-11-2016 01:51 PM

Ukrainian girls are hot.... let them in so they can work in Amsterdam's Red Light District !

nico-t 04-11-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20831276)
Britain?s Pro-Kremlin Pols Swayed the Dutch Referendum on Ukraine - The Daily Beast

the anti-ukraine movement was created and supported by the kremlin.

don't be so naive.

Bullshit. I live here, followed every last single bit of alternative media. Soros and friends and our mainstream media who is under control of the EU wanted the people to believe that. The initiators of this referendum have ZERO to do with Russia. You cannot believe the propaganda of mainstream media to desperately link this referendum with big bad Putin, but it's all bullshit.

Alot of people are fed up with the EU, it's about them completely ignoring democracy and the people. Ukraine just happened to be the first topic on their agenda we could vote against, with success.

Fuck the EU! Viva la revolution!

nico-t 04-11-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20831246)
why the hate for ukranians so much?

No hate buddy. It's bigger than that.

Paul Markham 04-11-2016 01:57 PM

Ukraine, Turkey, soon Moldavia will joining the list. following Romania, Bulgaria and few more countries that have no right being in a trading zone with the likes of Germany, France, UK, Holland, Sweden.

Truth is, it stopped being a trading zone a long time ago. It's now a political zone run be politicians and bureaucrats who need more people to rule. While an open door trading agreement is handed out to the likes of China.

While they spin it like this. Agreements - Trade - European Commission

Quote:

Over the next ten to 15 years, 90% of world demand will be generated outside Europe. That is why it is a key priority for the EU to tap into this growth potential by opening up market opportunities for European businesses abroad. One way of ensuring this is through negotiating agreements with our key partners.

As tariffs are relatively low in world trade today, trade barriers lie behind the customs borders: hence the EU aims to conclude Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreements (DCFTA) that, on top of removing tariffs, also open up markets on services, investment, public procurement and include regulatory issues.

If the EU was to complete all its current free trade talks tomorrow, it could add 2.2% to the EU's GDP or ?275 billion. This is equivalent to adding a country as big as Austria or Denmark to the EU economy. In terms of employment, these agreements could generate 2.2 million new jobs or an additional 1% of the EU total workforce.
The only way that demand can grow is by a decline in demand from the West.

And they tell us the UK will lose trade by being outside.

nico-t 04-11-2016 02:01 PM

Weird how alot of people not from the Netherlands look at this exactly like mainstream media propaganda want you to look at it. Guess the propaganda worked for the lesser informed, luckily it didn't work here in the Netherlands.

Tasty1 04-11-2016 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 20831291)
Ukrainian girls are hot.... let them in so they can work in Amsterdam's Red Light District !

You can better go to the Ukrain than, there it cost 5 Euro, in Amsterdam 50.

But they get a tourist visum, not a work visum yet.
I am happy that as a Dutchman i can go to nearly every country without a visa.

nico-t 04-11-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20831288)
if it upsets you that much man then stop being such a beta cuck, get off your computer and do something about it.


No idea to what post you are referring to.
I did get off my computer and voted for the first step for the deconstruction of the EU.

Anyway judging by your video it's about refugees, they are not running wild here on the streets like they do in Greece. Or mass rape women like in Germany. You can bet on it i would not be standing in silence if it would happen in front of me. I am not the average fat webmaster ;)

ITraffic 04-11-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20831297)
Bullshit. I live here, followed every last single bit of alternative media. Soros and friends and our mainstream media who is under control of the EU wanted the people to believe that. The initiators of this referendum have ZERO to do with Russia. You cannot believe the propaganda of mainstream media to desperately link this referendum with big bad Putin, but it's all bullshit.

Alot of people are fed up with the EU, it's about them completely ignoring democracy and the people. Ukraine just happened to be the first topic on their agenda we could vote against, with success.

Fuck the EU! Viva la revolution!

if it represented the will of the people why only 32.2% turned out to vote?

looks like the no vote was being mobilized by the far right, communists and a senior's organisation as well as putin. hardly the voice of the common person.

the eu has many similar agreements with complete shitholes why try and stop this one?

Tasty1 04-11-2016 02:16 PM

The Dutch just showed the world how Russia influences Western European elections

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...301_story.html

I can say in my opinion that i never read a more bullshit story than that lately.
So many biased lies, i can't believe it. I think they only get their information from a left wing website called Joop.nl

And everybody had complaints about the waste of money that the no-campaign used to print toiletpaper with reasons to vote against it. That campaign was one of the cheapest and gained worldwide attention! That was a big commercial succes with a lot extra free publicity. The advise for the people that want a Brexit, ask money from the goverment for 50.000 toiletrolls, extra hard, with reasons to Exit.

nico-t 04-11-2016 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20831369)
if it represented the will of the people why only 32.2% turned out to vote?

looks like the no vote was being mobilized by the far right, communists and a senior's organisation as well as putin. hardly the voice of the common person.

the eu has many similar agreements with complete shitholes why try and stop this one?

this is a new referendum law activated only last year. This was the first topic we could vote for.

btw 32,2 % is a huge number for a topic like this. Last EU puppet general elections in 2014 35% of the people turned up to vote. Mainstream media is hammering on this 32,2% saying it's so low, while completely ignoring the percentage of the 2014 elections. That wasn't too low back then according to them.

Google Expert 04-11-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20831306)
Ukraine, Turkey, soon Moldavia will joining the list. following Romania, Bulgaria and few more countries that have no right being in a trading zone with the likes of Germany, France, UK, Holland, Sweden.

and Czechoslovakia has that right? Paul, you're a hypocritical asshole

:1orglaugh

just a punk 04-11-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 20831291)
Ukrainian girls are hot.... let them in so they can work in Amsterdam's Red Light District !

They hot as fire... because every 1 of 5 Ukrainian prostitutes is HIV positive according to the official stats. Congrats to the winners :thumbsup :winkwink:

Statistics on HIV/AIDS in Ukraine on 01.01.2016 / Elena Pinchuk ANTIAIDS Foundation

Antonio 04-11-2016 03:21 PM

Well, democracy isn't about how you feel, it's about how the majority feels. If you think that the Brits are leaving the EU, you are seriously delusional. They have way too much to lose, same with the Dutch. But you never know, once upon a time the Japanese thought they were the best and the greatest and didn't need anybody else, so they sealed off their islands and woke up to white people with firing sticks a few hundred years later...

Coup 04-11-2016 03:24 PM

The EU should open its borders to Mexicans and Jews IMO

E: Also Alaskans

wehateporn 04-11-2016 03:32 PM


Tasty1 04-11-2016 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 20831582)
The EU should open its borders to Mexicans and Jews IMO

E: Also Alaskans

Yes!!! More Latina's in Europe and they like to live in Europe.
Jews are welcome, but they are not feeling comfortable in Europe.
"The European Jewish Congress has publicized a shocking poll: ?A third of the European Jews think of emigrating?. That is 700,000 people"

http://masculineprofiles.com/wp-cont...2/mexicana.jpg

http://blog.kievukraine.info/uploade...047-790197.jpg

ITraffic 04-11-2016 03:37 PM

https://36.media.tumblr.com/79a328f7...it70o1_500.jpg

"when will the wire hit my offshore account? you promised."

"don't worry once the ukraine is further destabilized you will get your blood money."

Sarn 04-11-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20831651)
https://36.media.tumblr.com/79a328f7...it70o1_500.jpg

"when will the wire hit my offshore account? you promised."

"don't worry once the ukraine is further destabilized you will get your blood money."

let's look how pootin make destabilization and "fuck EU" :1orglaugh


brassmonkey 04-11-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20831633)

they don't want to live in the shit country tho. damn i would like a rear view :2 cents::2 cents:

nico-t 04-11-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20831576)
Well, democracy isn't about how you feel, it's about how the majority feels. If you think that the Brits are leaving the EU, you are seriously delusional. They have way too much to lose, same with the Dutch. But you never know, once upon a time the Japanese thought they were the best and the greatest and didn't need anybody else, so they sealed off their islands and woke up to white people with firing sticks a few hundred years later...

Yes your definition of democracy is correct. 61% voted no.

If UK votes in favor of Brexit, it's another fun way to look how the EU and the UK prime minister is going to try to ignore it. https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Did you know not that long ago we had our own border policy and currency? And we were doing great as one of the richest countries in Europe. We were a sovereign country, where laws only had to pass our government.
Now EU makes the laws and our government has no say in it. We have no say in it.

We went from a democracy to a dictatorship. The evolution of a country used to be the other way around.

Manfap 04-12-2016 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20831783)
Yes your definition of democracy is correct. 61% voted no.

If UK votes in favor of Brexit, it's another fun way to look how the EU and the UK prime minister is going to try to ignore it. https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Did you know not that long ago we had our own border policy and currency? And we were doing great as one of the richest countries in Europe. We were a sovereign country, where laws only had to pass our government.
Now EU makes the laws and our government has no say in it. We have no say in it.

We went from a democracy to a dictatorship. The evolution of a country used to be the other way around.


As an exporting nation, your currency was getting too strong. Same with Germany, why you think they created the euro.

Tie in your currency rate to the countries you export to, raise the production costs in those countries, and them sell them your shit because your stuff is no longer more expensive.

_Richard_ 04-12-2016 02:52 AM

and soon canadians will need a visa to travel to the EU

nicely done. seriously.

sadly we have no one with balls in our government, or we'd shut down that free trade deal, arm Hans island to the teeth, and start going by Peters Map.

Mediamix 04-12-2016 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20831321)
Weird how alot of people not from the Netherlands look at this exactly like mainstream media propaganda want you to look at it. Guess the propaganda worked for the lesser informed, luckily it didn't work here in the Netherlands.


This.. :2 cents: Every word you said in this thread is the truth.

Paul Markham 04-12-2016 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 20831438)
and Czechoslovakia has that right? Paul, you're a hypocritical asshole

:1orglaugh

It's no longer called Czechoslovakia, so you're a dumb asshole.

Also I'm not Czech. A British businessman who moved to Czech before the Common Market came here and unaffected by the EU. The only difference now is I don't have to show a passport if traveling in the Schengen Countries.

That's the con trick the EU has pulled on Europeans, there never was anything to stop us trading with each other. We've been doing it for 3,000 years.

Paul Markham 04-12-2016 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20831576)
Well, democracy isn't about how you feel, it's about how the majority feels. If you think that the Brits are leaving the EU, you are seriously delusional. They have way too much to lose, same with the Dutch. But you never know, once upon a time the Japanese thought they were the best and the greatest and didn't need anybody else, so they sealed off their islands and woke up to white people with firing sticks a few hundred years later...

The only thing the UK has to lose is Brussels rules, politicians and bureaucrats jobs and EU migrants.

The benefits of being in the EU are minimal to the general public.

Paul Markham 04-12-2016 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20831783)
We went from a democracy to a dictatorship. The evolution of a country used to be the other way around.

Many non-EU countries have a free trade agreement with the EU. China is flooding the EU with cheap steel among a range of other products that have closed down many EU industries. The myth that the EU is an EU beneficial trade zone is bullshit. The EU could tell China to buy more or we buy less, it doesn't. It could do this with many countries and doesn't.

The balance of power is held by small less wealthy nations. And that balance will tip further as new countries join. The only case to allow the CzechRepublic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, and a few more in is. Cheap Labour. They have nothing else to offer, their markets are tiny and if you look at their populations and compare them with the rich ones, you see one-way traffic or a few businessmen like me going the other way. I didn't need the EU to move here.

And did any of the former EU citizens get a vote on expanding the club? No way, we were told to suck it up.

DraX 04-12-2016 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20831270)
It's way bigger than that as i already explained in another topic. This is about democracy, which is proven to be non existent now because of our referendum. Everybody already knew it, but now we've proven it. This will open the door to more BREXIT voters, more skepticism towards the EU dictatorship, more people who will wake up.

The EU, who is responsible for our open border policy towards your example of Somali and other islamic rapefugees. To the fucking mess of the huge waves of them who cause chaos in Europe, leading to terrorist attacks and deaths. The EU who is responsible for billions of our tax money to shitty poor countries.

Now tell me... After all these giant fuckups, would you vote FOR another one of their plans that THEY want for their expansion? Or would you vote AGAINST one of those plans?

It is all intertwined. Look at the big picture and not what the media tells you.

I couldn't have summarized this better myself, this has nothing to do with ukrainians but the EU system as a dictator.

How the fuck anyone in the EU parliament can say I'm proud of what we have accomplished is beyond me. They are nothing else than low scum and traitors!

Just watch out, these hypocritical EU elite scumbags are opening up for something really scary.

MaDalton 04-12-2016 04:53 AM

i really feel for all of you because the EU made all your lives soooo miserable...

i also notice how everyday the EU dictators try to keep me down and make it impossible to enjoy my life even just a little bit.

Dammit.

nico-t 04-12-2016 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20832638)
i really feel for all of you because the EU made all your lives soooo miserable...

i also notice how everyday the EU dictators try to keep me down and make it impossible to enjoy my life even just a little bit.

Dammit.

wow, what a surprising post coming from you :1orglaugh

Yep the EU is truly a happy place. Well aside from paying billions of tax money to poor countries, the Euro which made everything twice as expensive back in 2002 when it was forced down our throats, complete loss of sovereignty and democracy, rapefugees running wild, and people getting blown to bits.

You are such an ignorant close minded naive hippie it's crazy. Are you high all the time? Or are you a paid forum shill of Soros? Christ! :1orglaugh

mineistaken 04-12-2016 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20831345)
You can better go to the Ukrain than, there it cost 5 Euro, in Amsterdam 50.

I just checked mongering forum called international sex guide (or +- like that) and it seems they are paying no less than 30-50 eur in Ukraine as well.
5 euros is a myth.
Although you can find (real? fake? ) escort sites where they have chicks for 300 grivna (less than 10 eur), but how come expert mongers on that forum is not getting anything for less than 30-50eur?


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