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Steve Rupe 07-31-2017 06:29 AM

Why do you think that the North Korean leader keeps pushing Japan's and the U.S.'s buttons
 
He seems determined to self destruct and take his nation down with him as well as the lives of millions of others. Is it that he thinks that being able to strike Japan, a historical enemy and/or the U.S. will insure that he stays in power until he dies. If so my confidence level is not high about that thinking. He is playing a very dangerous game in my estimation of the situation. Could it be that he infact wants to go out with a bang and earn his place in history?

Any thoughts about his thinking?

TheSquealer 07-31-2017 06:41 AM

They've been doing the exact same thing since the end of the Korean War. Nothing is new. They've always made a lot of noise and threats, then got self-hating, Western pussy states to step in, beg them to calm down, draw up agreements with them, start giving them aid etc and when they finally get called out for never abiding by the agreements, the aid stopped flowing, the cycle repeated.

The ultimate threat for a poor, unstable country dependant on the support of others to make, is a nuclear attack. Now they are capable and are ready to step up their game to Nuclear Blackmail.

Nuclear Blackmail can't be taken seriously if you don't think there is a risk they'll launch nukes... hence, his behavior and threats. And yeah, it should have never gotten to this point. President Clinton was even drawing up plans to bomb them in the 90s to prevent this threat today.

EddyTheDog 07-31-2017 06:54 AM

He's nuts?..

Joshua G 07-31-2017 09:00 AM

simple. he is a spoiled brat that is being enabled by chinese support.

China better get its head out of its ass cause trump has no fear of going to war. he wont dither & draw red lines then ignore them like the former vagina in chief who let evil run wild.

particularly since the GOP cant pass anything & refuses to work with dems. a cakewalk conflict is a perfect distraction from GOP failures.

:2 cents:

ilnjscb 07-31-2017 11:08 AM

Cause he's a psychotic bitch and he has no choice. Show one second of weakness and he's dead. He can only be bold, and fortune favors the bold, until USA alone decapitates him in 12 months, or we get used to kissing his ass.

Bladewire 07-31-2017 11:14 AM

He's doing what China tells him.

China is 80% of North Korea's trade.

China is 100% of North Korea's technology.

Putin supplies North Korea nuclear materials in exchange for North Korea slave labor in Russia.

North Korea is China's way of saying fuck you to America via puppet.

BaldBastard 07-31-2017 11:27 AM

https://rusi.org/commentary/north-korea-2009

Because they don't care and Kim certainly doesn't care.

Asking China to do something is like the rest of the world asking Canada to sort out the USA's issues or vice versa. It's not happening.

North Koreans have suffered hardships for generations, all sanctions do is justify their governments stance that they are under attack from the USA, they have not helped issues only added to them.

Lets say USA goes in an bombs every military base they have, do you really think they will wave a white flag? Or do you think they will just rebuild with newer technology and be consumed with paying America back.. cos they will. That would be the one act that would justify everything Kim and others have warned about to North Koreans.

At some stage the world will have to listen to what Kim wants, and then work out a way to move forward. Certainly the USA and Japan need to get the fuck out of Kims face.

femdomdestiny 07-31-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21923887)
He seems determined to self destruct and take his nation down with him as well as the lives of millions of others. Is it that he thinks that being able to strike Japan, a historical enemy and/or the U.S. will insure that he stays in power until he dies. If so my confidence level is not high about that thinking. He is playing a very dangerous game in my estimation of the situation. Could it be that he infact wants to go out with a bang and earn his place in history?

Any thoughts about his thinking?

Pushing buttons? he is playing the only game that is left to them. If those guys were not ready to fight back, US would attack them long ago. The fat guy is well aware that being weak is a ticket to one direction. The same one where are Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries that were not capable defending from invasion and looting. They are relatively small country and they don't have a choice. How many countries did Nk attack in the last 60 years?

Bladewire 07-31-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21924691)
Pushing buttons? he is playing the only game that is left to them. If those guys were not ready to fight back, US would attack them long ago. The fat guy is well aware that being weak is a ticket to one direction. The same one where are Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries that were not capable defending from invasion and looting. They are relatively small country and they don't have a choice. How many countries did Nk attack in the last 60 years?

China has said it will protect North Korea, Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries didn't have that.

China's army getting ready for something big to go down in North Korea - Business Insider

Steve Rupe 07-31-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21924691)
Pushing buttons? he is playing the only game that is left to them. If those guys were not ready to fight back, US would attack them long ago. The fat guy is well aware that being weak is a ticket to one direction. The same one where are Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries that were not capable defending from invasion and looting. They are relatively small country and they don't have a choice. How many countries did Nk attack in the last 60 years?

If the US wanted to attack NK it would have done so in 1953 instead of signing a truce with them or would have attacked them anytime since then including the present. The reason that NK has not attacked any country since 1953 it has never had the ability to attack another country other than South Korea. They are an insignificant country other than they can cause the death of millions of their own people and SK's people.

~Ray 07-31-2017 11:52 AM

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femdomdestiny 07-31-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21924727)
If the US wanted to attack NK it would have done so in 1953 instead of signing a truce with them or would have attacked them anytime since then including the present. The reason that NK has not attacked any country since 1953 it has never had the ability to attack another country other than South Korea. They are an insignificant country other than they can cause the death of millions of their own people and SK's people.

Glad you have time making lists and writing down millions of people. Personally, I wouldn't be able to do it, mostly because of their letters.

Your aggressive approach is based on your own way of thinking.Those people want to live and work in the same way as most of other people in the world. What is more "scary" than NK "threat" are the people ready to believe in all that crap. Especially after all unveiled lies that were used to justify invasions worldwide in the previous decades. NK won't attack anyone, they are not capable of occupying anyone. Even if that they are, that would mean total war for them and destruction. They know very well how war looked like last time.

NK, like the most of the countries, can't defend themselves from the attack from far. They could be sent 50 years back in the matter of few hours. Power plants, water supplies, bridges and the rest of the infrastructure. Shooting one nuke to other nuclear capable country will just end too expensive for them. No one is crazy or stupid. What they are saying is to leave them alone, they have a right to defend just as any other country.

If anyone thinks that Nk is a threat there are much better ways to resolve them. Those guys need to feel and see other ways of living. Negotiations, cooperation, and marketing will put their guard down. Whoever is worried about "millions of people" is somehow forgetting Africa and really bad conditions of living there. Should I mention kids being sent to war? NK is the ultimate civilization compared to so many places on this planet.


Steve Rupe 07-31-2017 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21924793)
Glad you have time making lists and writing down millions of people. Personally, I wouldn't be able to do it, mostly because of their letters.

I have zero idea as to what that statement means. Do you have any idea what it means?

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Your aggressive approach is based on your own way of thinking.
What aggressive approach are you referring to?

pimpmaster9000 07-31-2017 12:49 PM

They know the USA too well to trust them...the whole of Asia does...they know peace is not on the agenda when war inc. is too big to fail...the USA will simply find somebody else to invade until everybody has nukes...

Hannes 07-31-2017 12:52 PM

they want things to erupt eventually... the way I see it war=money

Sarn 07-31-2017 05:40 PM

I think NK will strike by USA one nuke. Just imagine for himself how it will change the world and USA.

Bladewire 07-31-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21925528)
I think NK will strike by USA one nuke. Just imagine for himself how it will change the world and USA.

Take your hand if your little uncut vodka smegma dick and think about what you're saying.

slapass 07-31-2017 05:52 PM

He does not need to do this. He could sit back and live his life. Wtf does he care if he has nukes or not?

NatalieK 07-31-2017 06:31 PM

Britain´s asked NK to respect his people & stop the dangerous missile testing...

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Following his meeting with ambassador Choe Il in London, Foreign Office minister Lord Ahmad said: "Once again, North Korea's actions directly violate multiple UN Security Council resolutions and threaten international security.

"The UK will work with our partners and allies to tackle this threat.

"I call on the regime to stop its dangerous activity, change its course and concentrate on its people's welfare rather than illegally pursuing its nuclear and ballistic missile programmes."
UK warns North Korea to stop 'dangerous' missile testing after summoning ambassador to Foreign Office

Rochard 07-31-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21924670)
https://rusi.org/commentary/north-korea-2009

Because they don't care and Kim certainly doesn't care.

Asking China to do something is like the rest of the world asking Canada to sort out the USA's issues or vice versa. It's not happening.

North Koreans have suffered hardships for generations, all sanctions do is justify their governments stance that they are under attack from the USA, they have not helped issues only added to them.

Lets say USA goes in an bombs every military base they have, do you really think they will wave a white flag? Or do you think they will just rebuild with newer technology and be consumed with paying America back.. cos they will. That would be the one act that would justify everything Kim and others have warned about to North Koreans.

At some stage the world will have to listen to what Kim wants, and then work out a way to move forward. Certainly the USA and Japan need to get the fuck out of Kims face.

If the United States is going to strike, it needs to strike sooner than later. The US could quickly destroy their ability to fight and communicate, similar to what we did with Iraq. The war with Iraq was over in the first hour with the first few strikes - we destroyed the ability of their military to communicate with anyone. The only difference is North Korea has god only knows how many soldiers on the border with instructions to cross into South Korea the moment hostilities start. Hundreds of thousands of people would most likely die in the first week or two.

Their ability to launch a missile at the United States isn't even remotely valid; It takes them days to set up a launch which we would quickly detect and destroy.

I look at it like this... There are two solutions here - the carrot or the stick. Offer them the carrot (food, tech, lift the sanctions) and tell them to disarm themselves and make peace with South Korea. If that fails, give them the stick - all out war.

NatalieK 07-31-2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21925621)
If the United States is going to strike, it needs to strike sooner than later. The US could quickly destroy their ability to fight and communicate, similar to what we did with Iraq. The war with Iraq was over in the first hour with the first few strikes - we destroyed the ability of their military to communicate with anyone. The only difference is North Korea has god only knows how many soldiers on the border with instructions to cross into South Korea the moment hostilities start. Hundreds of thousands of people would most likely die in the first week or two.

Their ability to launch a missile at the United States isn't even remotely valid; It takes them days to set up a launch which we would quickly detect and destroy.

I look at it like this... There are two solutions here - the carrot or the stick. Offer them the carrot (food, tech, lift the sanctions) and tell them to disarm themselves and make peace with South Korea. If that fails, give them the stick - all out war.

understanding sometimes it seems no other way, but war is not the answer here. No war at all. NK is merely messing about with their big boys toys to say to the world, we´re dangerous too...

there is no reason for war, it needs sensible offerings, like you mentioned to begin. If this doesn´t work, the next option is give the sign off. No trading, no communications, shut NK off from the rest of the world, with explanation :2 cents:

2MuchMark 07-31-2017 09:33 PM

Because the NK leader is an even bigger attention whore than Trump is, and he's jealous Trump grabs the news every day.

pimpmaster9000 08-01-2017 02:19 AM

It is amusing that people think n.korea has no right to have nukes while serial invader and war monger America, somehow, has...amusing...

Paul Markham 08-01-2017 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21925621)
I look at it like this... There are two solutions here - the carrot or the stick. Offer them the carrot (food, tech, lift the sanctions) and tell them to disarm themselves and make peace with South Korea. If that fails, give them the stick - all out war.

Then it should have been all out war decades ago.

The rise in power of NK is because China protects it until China is brought to heel it will always protect NK. For no reasons other than it can't afford to have the millions of NK citizens crossing the border.

It's the minority in the leadership who are desperate to hold onto power. They do this by brainwashing the masses.

Trump must send SK the missile defence system, must put the navy off the shore of NK and tell the leadership to mind it's manners.

brassmonkey 08-01-2017 02:40 AM

our leaders are psychopathic serial killers

Google Expert 08-01-2017 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21923887)
He seems determined to self destruct and take his nation down with him as well as the lives of millions of others. Is it that he thinks that being able to strike Japan, a historical enemy and/or the U.S. will insure that he stays in power until he dies. If so my confidence level is not high about that thinking. He is playing a very dangerous game in my estimation of the situation. Could it be that he infact wants to go out with a bang and earn his place in history?

Any thoughts about his thinking?

Cause the fat boy's got Nukes. Even if the world leaders decided to wipe his little shit country off the face of the Earth, he'd still have enough time to cause some major damage. Either totally annihilate South Korea or some such.

So no one wants to fuck with him as long as he's occupied playing communism and not bothering anyone. He's showing off / yapping his mouth mostly for his own citizens, to keep his credibility as a Dear Leader.

Sooner or later he's gonna get quietly assassinated and everything will get resolved on its own. This makes more sense than to go to war with him.

Bladewire 08-01-2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21924934)
They know the USA too well to trust them...the whole of Asia does...they know peace is not on the agenda when war inc. is too big to fail...the USA will simply find somebody else to invade until everybody has nukes...

Nothing you say there is based on reality you must be high USA government building fumes :2 cents:

Google Expert 08-01-2017 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21924652)
He's doing what China tells him.

China is 80% of North Korea's trade.

China is 100% of North Korea's technology.

Putin supplies North Korea nuclear materials in exchange for North Korea slave labor in Russia.

North Korea is China's way of saying fuck you to America via puppet.

God damn, what a stupid motherfuck you are.

NK is bankrupt, so they got nothing to trade. China's been aiding them with some food so the poor fuckers wouldn't starve out.

Neither China nor Russia supply him with shit. Neither China nor Russia want to border with a crazy fucker who's got nukes.

China doesn't give a fuck what happens to NK. If shit hit the fan, China would move in and take the territory after the dust settles.

It's just that no one wants a nuke ware on their borders, so they pretty much ignore him.

Barry-xlovecam 08-01-2017 04:39 AM

What confounds me, is that; The USA with our supposedly superior anti-missile technology doesn't just splash the North Korean tactical and ballistic missiles mid-flight ... why is that --- is the failure rate too high?

That seems to me to be the best way to call Kim's bluff -- and cut off his water :2 cents:

Who's bluffing and who's is calling in this nuclear poker game?

Bladewire 08-01-2017 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21926248)
NK is bankrupt, so they got nothing to trade. China's been aiding them with some food so the poor fuckers wouldn't starve out.

Neither China nor Russia supply him with shit. Neither China nor Russia want to border with a crazy fucker who's got nukes.

China doesn't give a fuck what happens to NK. If shit hit the fan, China would move in and take the territory after the dust settles.

You're not very smart and post like a 3rd worlder slum dweller.

Who the fuck do you think gave North Korea it's technology you stupid piece of shit?

You think "bankrupt" North Korea , with no money, miraculously learned how to make jet fuel & satellite guided missiles by playing in the dirt? You are a dumb fuck

NK can't light it's cities at night, has little food, but miraculously has nuclear capabilities and missiles that can hit America and Russia & China have nothing to do with it. Man you're fucking stupid.

"Google Expert" my ass. Use Google to educate yourself dummy

Bladewire 08-01-2017 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21926269)
What confounds me, is that; The USA with our supposedly superior anti-missile technology doesn't just splash the North Korean tactical and ballistic missiles mid-flight ... why is that --- is the failure rate too high?

That seems to me to be the best way to call Kim's bluff -- and cut off his water :2 cents:

Who's bluffing and who's is calling in this nuclear poker game?

When you hit missiles midflight you don't control where the debris lands, so we hit one and the debris lands on the city if Seoul killing people & damaging property, then what? Or what if it does the same in a Chinese city?

pimpmaster9000 08-01-2017 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21926239)
Nothing you say there is based on reality you must be high USA government building fumes :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah I must be tripping...I wonder what gave me that idea?

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Google Expert 08-01-2017 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21924706)
China has said it will protect North Korea, Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries didn't have that.

China's army getting ready for something big to go down in North Korea - Business Insider


Read your own link, you fucking autistic loser:
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"Even short of war, China now has reason to view North Korea as a liability."

"Beijing, which could play a role in handling a refugee crisis, should the North Korean regime collapse, has now assembled forces sufficient to shape the outcome of any conflict between the West and Pyongyang. "
China is building up an army there for a quick land grab when shit hits the fan.

Bladewire 08-01-2017 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21926293)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah I must be tripping...I wonder what gave me that idea?

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You're jealous because your "country", where you are and immigrant guest, is powerless.

Google Expert 08-01-2017 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21926269)
What confounds me, is that; The USA with our supposedly superior anti-missile technology doesn't just splash the North Korean tactical and ballistic missiles mid-flight ... why is that --- is the failure rate too high?

That seems to me to be the best way to call Kim's bluff -- and cut off his water :2 cents:

Who's bluffing and who's is calling in this nuclear poker game?

They can load up artillery with tactical nukes. It's well within reach of South Korea.

Just one salvo would make SK disappear.

Bladewire 08-01-2017 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21926305)
Read your own link, you fucking autistic loser:

China is building up an army there for a quick land grab when shit hits the fan.

You're a stupid 3rd worlder twisting facts to fit your sick fantasy induced by no clean water to drink.

They are there to stop refugees from entering China, as they've stated.

Bladewire 08-01-2017 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21926320)
Just one salvo would make SK disappear.

Typical 3rd worlder mentality you're fucked in the head :1orglaugh

CoolMikey 08-01-2017 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21926320)
They can load up artillery with tactical nukes. It's well within reach of South Korea.

Just one salvo would make SK disappear.

Last I read they don't have the tech to "miniaturize" their nukes, so putting them in artillery shells or missiles is probably not an option at this time.

Barry-xlovecam 08-01-2017 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21926287)
When you hit missiles midflight you don't control where the debris lands, so we hit one and the debris lands on the city if Seoul killing people & damaging property, then what? Or what if it does the same in a Chinese city?

Wrong answer -- they could be shot down before they fall in the sea.
Kim is not violating South Korean, Japanese or other territorial airspace on Kim's pull-my-little-pud demonstrations of his missile threats. Kim's bluffing and getting away with it and the world is letting him do it for some strange reason.

I remember the Cuban missile crisis and remember how Kennedy called Khrushchev's bluff with a naval blockade. North Korea is not an island but we can mine North Korea's harbors and enforce a naval blockade -- North Korea still at war with the United States. They want war -- give it to them! What is to stop satellite surveillance images of trade-goods, weapons or military elements moving into North Korea from China or Russia being shown to the world? Attacking a US satellite would be an open act of war ...

Instead we have a bloviating fool for a President and commander-in-chief spewing nonsensical threats on Twitter to and about North Korea ... SAD!

pimpmaster9000 08-01-2017 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21926314)
You're jealous because your "country", where you are and immigrant guest, is powerless.

the word you are looking for is envious...and no I do not envy the US citizen who gets fucked for every possible service his government provides...I am just pointing out your obvious addiction to war and how peace is not an option...there is nothing you could possibly say about this so I understand your ignoring the painful truth...


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