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whatif_3 06-09-2009 09:36 AM

What do you want in a hosting company?
 
What are the things you find important to a hosting company and in what order?

1. Price - lowest cost possible
2. Tech support - If you have an issue, you can get hold of somebody competent to resolve
3. Reliable Network with little to no downtime
4. Company thats been around for some time, not a newcomer, one that wont disappear overnight


what else?

WiredGuy 06-09-2009 09:43 AM

Flexible IP assignments.
WG

whatif_3 06-09-2009 09:46 AM

good wg, thx

1. Price - lowest cost possible
2. Tech support - If you have an issue, you can get hold of somebody competent to resolve
3. Reliable Network with little to no downtime
4. Company thats been around for some time, not a newcomer, one that wont disappear overnight
5. Wide Service and Product Range offerings (various O/S offered, backups, Control Panel, extra IPs options, etc)

st0ned 06-09-2009 09:47 AM

1. Up time - Some hosts can guarantee 99.9% uptime, however if the server does go down I expect them to immediately bring it back up. I have had a few hosts I had to manually reboot my server.
2. Technical Support - If I have an issue I want to be able to contact someone immediately, preferably by live help and not by submitting a ticket (although some hosts have a quick ticket response time).
3. BACKUPS - Most hosts require an add-on for storage space. If this is the case ALERT your client, I lost 115+ sites at the end of last year in a server crash because it was my understanding my host kept backups when they did not. Eye opening experience to say the least.
4. Reputable - Want to ensure my data is not going to disappear on any given day.

Adraco 06-09-2009 10:09 AM

1. Uptime, I pay for a service (show my pages on the web) and expect that service to be fully functioning. If an uptime is guaranteed, offer an incentive. Most 99,9% uptime garantees are often useless as there is no statement about what the compensation would be, should the host not be able to provide the guarantee. So show that you're serious about the guarantee.

2. Tech support, depending on the size of your hosting company, why not show pictures and names, could as far as I'm concerned be screen names, of the tech support. Like Bradlee, certified Microsoft server technician and also Cisco CCNA certified. Specialty: PHP scripts. Gives a much more personal feeling and trust.

3. Different payment options. Credit card is a given, Paypal preferred and maybe ePass and some others. Also the choice of not receiving bills every now and then, so the option to choose say 3, 6 and 12 months payment cycles.

4. A thourough walk through of exactly how the back up works, if I can recover my files myself or how long it would take to have it done for me, i.e. how long down time can be accepted should that occur. Costs associated with restoring back ups and for how long they are saved, seven days at a different location is somewhat of a minimum.

5. Always keep a backup on an external hard drive that you own. Should the host disappear, or heaven would just implode and you wouldn't reach your files or sites, you never want to have to just drop it and restart completely. A 1TB hard drive is quite cheap now, there's no excuse for not having one of those on your desk and just keep a backup there. You don't even need to do it right, just one backup every month or every second week will save you should the worst happen. That life insurance is worth a few hundred.

6. Do any of my friends have a story with this host? If so, what are their opinions? That matters a lot. Secondly, other people that I trust or respect, what do they say, for example here on GFY?

whatif_3 06-09-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 15940277)
1. Uptime, I pay for a service (show my pages on the web) and expect that service to be fully functioning. If an uptime is guaranteed, offer an incentive. Most 99,9% uptime garantees are often useless as there is no statement about what the compensation would be, should the host not be able to provide the guarantee. So show that you're serious about the guarantee.

3. Different payment options. Credit card is a given, Paypal preferred and maybe ePass and some others. Also the choice of not receiving bills every now and then, so the option to choose say 3, 6 and 12 months payment cycles.

5. Always keep a backup on an external hard drive that you own. Should the host disappear, or heaven would just implode and you wouldn't reach your files or sites, you never want to have to just drop it and restart completely. A 1TB hard drive is quite cheap now, there's no excuse for not having one of those on your desk and just keep a backup there. You don't even need to do it right, just one backup every month or every second week will save you should the worst happen. That life insurance is worth a few hundred.

6. Do any of my friends have a story with this host? If so, what are their opinions? That matters a lot. Secondly, other people that I trust or respect, what do they say, for example here on GFY?

excellent points and spot on

CDSmith 06-09-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatif_3 (Post 15940189)
1. Price - lowest cost possible

Not a good #1. Getting the best often means paying a little more, and if that means getting the quality uptime/tech support/extras then the extra cost is going to always be worth it.

AR-JOM 06-09-2009 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 15940217)
1. Up time - Some hosts can guarantee 99.9% uptime, however if the server does go down I expect them to immediately bring it back up. I have had a few hosts I had to manually reboot my server.
2. Technical Support - If I have an issue I want to be able to contact someone immediately, preferably by live help and not by submitting a ticket (although some hosts have a quick ticket response time).
3. BACKUPS - Most hosts require an add-on for storage space. If this is the case ALERT your client, I lost 115+ sites at the end of last year in a server crash because it was my understanding my host kept backups when they did not. Eye opening experience to say the least.
4. Reputable - Want to ensure my data is not going to disappear on any given day.

We offer all of the above and have been in business for a long time :)

Hit me up on ICQ/AIM if you're interested in making your sites more profitable.

414-084-516 / fortressbox

jcsike 06-09-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15940353)
Not a good #1. Getting the best often means paying a little more, and if that means getting the quality uptime/tech support/extras then the extra cost is going to always be worth it.

i think over the years, hosting has become more of a commodity, in the past 10 years prices have fallen and strong established companies have emerged that offer a consistant high standard of tech support and good uptime

whatif_3 06-09-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR-JOM (Post 15940358)
We offer all of the above and have been in business for a long time :)

Hit me up on ICQ/AIM if you're interested in making your sites more profitable.

414-084-516 / fortressbox

hey man, this wasnt an invitation to spam. at least contribute something useful to this thread!

count of monte cristo 06-09-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 15940277)

6. Do any of my friends have a story with this host? If so, what are their opinions? That matters a lot. Secondly, other people that I trust or respect, what do they say, for example here on GFY?

this is #1, imo

CurrentlySober 06-09-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15940353)
Not a good #1. Getting the best often means paying a little more, and if that means getting the quality uptime/tech support/extras then the extra cost is going to always be worth it.

Totally agree. Ive just been advising someone starting up on hosting, and price, (Unless its silly) shouldn't be a requirement. You get what you pay for.

klinton 06-09-2009 01:52 PM

*peace of mind*

CDSmith 06-09-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 15941018)
You get what you pay for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 15941046)
*peace of mind*

Exactly, which is exactly why I host with Techiemedia.

Take2Hosting 06-09-2009 04:54 PM

I started a similar thread a few days ago. Support seemed to be the answer common to all of the replies.

Beyond that, reliability.

Recommendations from people you know is a good indicator of a good service.

xenigo 06-09-2009 05:00 PM

I'd like a host to actually be giving people a dedicated box when you're telling a customer that's what they're buying... Not a virtual machine. :2 cents:

If the customer wants a virtual machine, let him choose to have that instead.

I understand webhosts do this for the obvious profitability of doing it, but it's still a bit deceptive... especially if you count on having the ability to squeeze the most out of that machine.

jcsike 06-09-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15941597)
I'd like a host to actually be giving people a dedicated box when you're telling a customer that's what they're buying... Not a virtual machine. :2 cents:

If the customer wants a virtual machine, let him choose to have that instead.

I understand webhosts do this for the obvious profitability of doing it, but it's still a bit deceptive... especially if you count on having the ability to squeeze the most out of that machine.

whats a host that does this?

xenigo 06-09-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 15941642)
whats a host that does this?

Go look at my other thread that I just started last night titled "commom practices of webhosts?". Deductive reasoning will answer your question. :winkwink:

jcsike 06-09-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15941660)
Go look at my other thread that I just started last night titled "commom practices of webhosts?". Deductive reasoning will answer your question. :winkwink:

i read that thread and couldn't deduct whom you were talking about

xenigo 06-09-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 15941689)
i read that thread and couldn't deduct whom you were talking about

Maybe go read it again and see if any webhosts answered the question. Then, judging by the lack of response over the past 24 hours, you can deduct what the answer is.

aniloscash 06-09-2009 05:41 PM

I like when tech support is done via a ticketing system so it doesnt get barried in my email inbox. and I like when they dont take 24 hours to respond.

jcsike 06-09-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15941695)
Maybe go read it again and see if any webhosts answered the question. Then, judging by the lack of response over the past 24 hours, you can deduct what the answer is.

i see. they all do it.

Cyber Fucker 06-09-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 15941046)
*peace of mind*

Yeah, definitely this one :thumbsup

LiveDose 06-09-2009 06:24 PM

Customer service is most important after uptime for me.

xenigo 06-09-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 15941708)
i see. they all do it.

Correlation is not causation... but it's interesting none-the-less.

jcsike 06-10-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15941812)
Correlation is not causation... but it's interesting none-the-less.

i dont think your thread got enough attention to warrant hosts posting in it, doesnt seem to be that big of an issue, any host has to be very careful doing shady shit because of the transparency of this industry, you get caught one time and your rep is ruined and its very tough to restart

Chicks Delivery 06-10-2009 08:17 AM

Nice price and good support

webmasterchecks 06-12-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 15941800)
Customer service is most important after uptime for me.

same here

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HomerSimpson 06-12-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real magoo (Post 15953287)
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Vendzilla 06-12-2009 12:14 PM

got everything I need, thank you

Steve OSS 06-15-2009 08:01 AM

1. Reliable Network with little to no downtime (If your server is down you will loose money and your customers will not know if you are in business or not. The last thing you want to do is leave money on the table and have your business appear to be unreliable to present/potential customers. Uptime says a lot about your company and tells potential/existing customers whether or not they should do or continue to do business with you. If the uptime is higher than 99% it is good; below 99% look elsewhere.)

2. Tech support - If you have an issue, you can get hold of somebody competent to resolve (Its important that you have someone there to make sure that all technical issued are resolved in a timely manner and that your business continues to grow and operate smoothly. Its well worth paying a reasonable premium for a company that is going to make themselves available to you at your disposal)

3. Price - lowest cost possible (Affordability is important; however, the cheapest hosting company is never the best. Fact of the matter is that hosting companies need to factor in labor cost to provide the best service possible and satisfy the above two)

4. Company that?s been around for some time, not a newcomer, one that wont disappear overnight (I rate this the least important because if hosting provider cannot satisfy the above three they should not be considered).

*Many others have touched on this; other than the above, I think customization, flexibility, and options are also very important. Whether it is additional bandwidth, CPU adjustments, additional memory, upgraded drives, or additional IP addresses it?s important that a hosting company can satisfy your needs in the present and also the future as your business grows and needs change.

jcsike 06-15-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve OSS (Post 15960624)
1. Reliable Network with little to no downtime (If your server is down you will loose money and your customers will not know if you are in business or not. The last thing you want to do is leave money on the table and have your business appear to be unreliable to present/potential customers. Uptime says a lot about your company and tells potential/existing customers whether or not they should do or continue to do business with you. If the uptime is higher than 99% it is good; below 99% look elsewhere.)

2. Tech support - If you have an issue, you can get hold of somebody competent to resolve (Its important that you have someone there to make sure that all technical issued are resolved in a timely manner and that your business continues to grow and operate smoothly. Its well worth paying a reasonable premium for a company that is going to make themselves available to you at your disposal)

3. Price - lowest cost possible (Affordability is important; however, the cheapest hosting company is never the best. Fact of the matter is that hosting companies need to factor in labor cost to provide the best service possible and satisfy the above two)

4. Company that?s been around for some time, not a newcomer, one that wont disappear overnight (I rate this the least important because if hosting provider cannot satisfy the above three they should not be considered).

*Many others have touched on this; other than the above, I think customization, flexibility, and options are also very important. Whether it is additional bandwidth, CPU adjustments, additional memory, upgraded drives, or additional IP addresses it?s important that a hosting company can satisfy your needs in the present and also the future as your business grows and needs change.

how do you know if a host has all of the above factors? would you look at the website, talk to a sales rep, ask around?

TurboAngel 06-15-2009 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15940353)
Not a good #1. Getting the best often means paying a little more, and if that means getting the quality uptime/tech support/extras then the extra cost is going to always be worth it.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


I have to say NatNet has great support, one of the things I love about them!

Lightning 06-15-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve OSS (Post 15960624)
1. Reliable Network with little to no downtime (If your server is down you will loose money and your customers will not know if you are in business or not. The last thing you want to do is leave money on the table and have your business appear to be unreliable to present/potential customers. Uptime says a lot about your company and tells potential/existing customers whether or not they should do or continue to do business with you. If the uptime is higher than 99% it is good; below 99% look elsewhere.)

2. Tech support - If you have an issue, you can get hold of somebody competent to resolve (Its important that you have someone there to make sure that all technical issued are resolved in a timely manner and that your business continues to grow and operate smoothly. Its well worth paying a reasonable premium for a company that is going to make themselves available to you at your disposal)

3. Price - lowest cost possible (Affordability is important; however, the cheapest hosting company is never the best. Fact of the matter is that hosting companies need to factor in labor cost to provide the best service possible and satisfy the above two)

4. Company that?s been around for some time, not a newcomer, one that wont disappear overnight (I rate this the least important because if hosting provider cannot satisfy the above three they should not be considered).

*Many others have touched on this; other than the above, I think customization, flexibility, and options are also very important. Whether it is additional bandwidth, CPU adjustments, additional memory, upgraded drives, or additional IP addresses it?s important that a hosting company can satisfy your needs in the present and also the future as your business grows and needs change.


Very well said:thumbsup and that is why so many people host with www.techiemedia.com because they simply Rock in the hosting world.:2 cents::2 cents:

Chit Chat 06-15-2009 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve OSS (Post 15960624)
1. Reliable Network with little to no downtime (If your server is down you will loose money and your customers will not know if you are in business or not. The last thing you want to do is leave money on the table and have your business appear to be unreliable to present/potential customers. Uptime says a lot about your company and tells potential/existing customers whether or not they should do or continue to do business with you. If the uptime is higher than 99% it is good; below 99% look elsewhere.)

2. Tech support - If you have an issue, you can get hold of somebody competent to resolve (Its important that you have someone there to make sure that all technical issued are resolved in a timely manner and that your business continues to grow and operate smoothly. Its well worth paying a reasonable premium for a company that is going to make themselves available to you at your disposal)

3. Price - lowest cost possible (Affordability is important; however, the cheapest hosting company is never the best. Fact of the matter is that hosting companies need to factor in labor cost to provide the best service possible and satisfy the above two)

4. Company that?s been around for some time, not a newcomer, one that wont disappear overnight (I rate this the least important because if hosting provider cannot satisfy the above three they should not be considered).

*Many others have touched on this; other than the above, I think customization, flexibility, and options are also very important. Whether it is additional bandwidth, CPU adjustments, additional memory, upgraded drives, or additional IP addresses it?s important that a hosting company can satisfy your needs in the present and also the future as your business grows and needs change.

Very important points you've raised here. :thumbsup

Rochard 06-15-2009 09:08 AM

I want a company that's going to pick up the phone at 3am their time when I have a problem.

Or better yet, I want my hosting company to see a problem before I do, take care of it, and then send me an email saying "We found this problem and fixed it for you before it became a bigger problem".

That's why I host with National Net.

corvette 06-15-2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 15960862)
I want my hosting company to see a problem before I do, take care of it, and then send me an email saying "We found this problem and fixed it for you before it became a bigger problem".

thats nice

Iron Fist 06-15-2009 09:38 PM

I want my hosting company to make my galleries, submit them with my ref codes, all with a 99.999999% uptime gaurantee.

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