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TheSenator 09-03-2009 09:17 AM

Should Public School Kids Be Forced the H1N1 Vaccine?
 
Should Public School Kids Be Forced the H1N1 Vaccine?

I'm torn on this one because an outbreak would cause an immediate harm to the community. By default, any thing that causes an immediate harm should be taken care of immediately.

Forcing the H1N1 vaccine without my permission would be a slippery slope. What else would they force on the public???

Quagmire 09-03-2009 09:19 AM

the day they force it is the day my daughter is no longer going to public school

Fletch XXX 09-03-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16272075)
the day they force it is the day my daughter is no longer going to public school

your daughter was already forced to have shots before attending public school.

all kids are vaccinated and not allowed to enter public schools unless vaccinated, id assume swine flu shots are next on the list.

TheSenator 09-03-2009 09:22 AM

Forced Vaccinations in Massachusetts???

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...df/st02028.pdf



dyna mo 09-03-2009 09:22 AM

so much for preventative healthcare

:-(

Yngwie 09-03-2009 09:23 AM

This whole swine flu shit makes me laugh. I have real things to worry about so I'm not gonna waste my time worrying about a regular flu that's been made to look like it's a "world killer".

TheSenator 09-03-2009 09:35 AM



Massachusetts just passed some hardcore laws.

Fletch XXX 09-03-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272149)


Massachusetts just passed some hardcore laws.

note: the right to enter private property"

As ive said many times, when it comes down to it, the government can enter your home, guns drawn and nothing you can do except go along with it or die. They do it during hurricanes, and they will certainly do it during Swine Flu outbreak.

They make sure to make the laws to be able to do what they need to control the population during crisis.

theking 09-03-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272066)
Should Public School Kids Be Forced the H1N1 Vaccine?

I'm torn on this one because an outbreak would cause an immediate harm to the community. By default, any thing that causes an immediate harm should be taken care of immediately.

Forcing the H1N1 vaccine without my permission would be a slippery slope. What else would they force on the public???

See thread

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=925576

Agent 488 09-03-2009 09:40 AM

they would have to pry my pig out of my cold dead hands.

JC Maldini 09-03-2009 09:41 AM

I think they should have a mass injection day. Do it Sept 8th while the president is speaking to all the kids. 2 birds with one stone!!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU...ws_grazing.jpg

TheSenator 09-03-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16272157)
note: the right to enter private property"

As ive said many times, when it comes down to it, the government can enter your home, guns drawn and nothing you can do except go along with it or die. They do it during hurricanes, and they will certainly do it during Swine Flu outbreak.

They make sure to make the laws to be able to do what they need to control the population during crisis.


There are quarantine laws already on the books.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/q/quarantine/

The federal quarantine law would kick in if someone infected cross state lines.

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 09:51 AM

Whats the death count so far this year? Whats the death count for normal flu this year? This whole fucking thing is a joke, and anyone that buys into it is retarded.

556 swine flu deaths.


Here are some statistics for all flu type deaths from 79 to 2001

1979: 604
1981: 3,006
1983: 1,431
1985: 2,054
1987: 632
1989: 1,593
1991: 1,137
1993: 1,044
1995: 606
1996: 745
1997: 720
1998: 1,724
1999: 1,665
2000: 1,765
2001: 257


In other words.. stfu about fuckin swine flu you retards in the media.

Better vaccinate for car accident related deaths its a PANDEMIC!!


A preview of results from the 2006 Annual Assessment of Motor Vehicle Traffic Crash Fatalities and Injuries shows that the number of people killed in the United States in motor vehicle traffic crashes declined from 43,510 in 2005 to 42,642, the lowest level in five years.

OMG OMG OMG and that is just in the U.S OMG OMG OMG!!

The fuckin chance of any one of us catching the fuckin retarded swine flu is next to 0%. And for that risk Im going to let someone inject me or my children with an unproven vaccine that could cause bad health issues later in life, or even death earlier than expected? FUCK THAT! All you "vacciners" can have my dose so there is more to go around.

Its so hysterical to watch the typical retard roundup about the swine flu. Mostly the same group that believes in global warming, and the ozone layer disappearing, and the bird flu, and all the other bs that the media feed us. Some people see the pattern of these little "scares" and laugh really hard. We hardly heard anything about the big bad global warming this summer why is that? Where are all these hundreds of killer hurricanes that were predicted due to the "global warming dilemma"? Why was this one of the coldest summers that I can recall? barely September and its not even that hot out today.

Ferris Buller's principal had it right about people be led down the "prim rose path" lmao

tranza 09-03-2009 09:53 AM

I dont think those things should be forced!

Fletch XXX 09-03-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272215)
There are quarantine laws already on the books.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/q/quarantine/

The federal quarantine law would kick in if someone infected cross state lines.

Yep, and having been through Martial Law a few times in my life, they can use Martial law, and Quarinte laws, and not much a citizen can do to fight back. He will be shot, and/or detained.

TheSenator 09-03-2009 10:07 AM

Seasonal FLU vs H1N1 FLU

Whats the difference in symptoms?

Agent 488 09-03-2009 10:07 AM

:helpme:helpme

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16272227)
Its so hysterical to watch the typical retard roundup about the swine flu. Mostly the same group that believes in global warming, and the ozone layer disappearing, and the bird flu, and all the other bs that the media feed us. Some people see the pattern of these little "scares" and laugh really hard. We hardly heard anything about the big bad global warming this summer why is that? Where are all these hundreds of killer hurricanes that were predicted due to the "global warming dilemma"? Why was this one of the coldest summers that I can recall? barely September and its not even that hot out today.


theking 09-03-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16272227)
Whats the death count so far this year? Whats the death count for normal flu this year? This whole fucking thing is a joke, and anyone that buys into it is retarded.

556 swine flu deaths.


Here are some statistics for all flu type deaths from 79 to 2001

1979: 604
1981: 3,006
1983: 1,431
1985: 2,054
1987: 632
1989: 1,593
1991: 1,137
1993: 1,044
1995: 606
1996: 745
1997: 720
1998: 1,724
1999: 1,665
2000: 1,765
2001: 257


In other words.. stfu about fuckin swine flu you retards in the media.

Better vaccinate for car accident related deaths its a PANDEMIC!!


A preview of results from the 2006 Annual Assessment of Motor Vehicle Traffic Crash Fatalities and Injuries shows that the number of people killed in the United States in motor vehicle traffic crashes declined from 43,510 in 2005 to 42,642, the lowest level in five years.

OMG OMG OMG and that is just in the U.S OMG OMG OMG!!

The fuckin chance of any one of us catching the fuckin retarded swine flu is next to 0%. And for that risk Im going to let someone inject me or my children with an unproven vaccine that could cause bad health issues later in life, or even death earlier than expected? FUCK THAT! All you "vacciners" can have my dose so there is more to go around.

Its so hysterical to watch the typical retard roundup about the swine flu. Mostly the same group that believes in global warming, and the ozone layer disappearing, and the bird flu, and all the other bs that the media feed us. Some people see the pattern of these little "scares" and laugh really hard. We hardly heard anything about the big bad global warming this summer why is that? Where are all these hundreds of killer hurricanes that were predicted due to the "global warming dilemma"? Why was this one of the coldest summers that I can recall? barely September and its not even that hot out today.

Ferris Buller's principal had it right about people be led down the "prim rose path" lmao

What is your source as the CDC says approximately 36,000 die annually from "ordinary flu"?

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16272263)
Yep, and having been through Martial Law a few times in my life, they can use Martial law, and Quarinte laws, and not much a citizen can do to fight back. He will be shot, and/or detained.

Really? Because Martial law was never declared in New Orleans...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial...ricane_Katrina

Quote:

Hurricane Katrina
Contrary to many media reports at the time, martial law was not declared in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, because no such term exists in Louisiana state law. However, a State of Emergency was declared, which does give unique powers to the state government similar to those of martial law. On the evening of August 31, 2005, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin nominally declared "martial law" and said that officers didn't have to observe civil rights and Miranda rights in stopping the looters. [12] Federal troops were a common sight in New Orleans after Katrina. At one point, as many as 15,000 federal troops and National Guardsmen patrolled the city. Additionally it has been reported that armed contractors from Blackwater USA assisted in policing the city.[13]
So yes it was bad, but it was not martial law.

In fact Marial Law hasn't been declared since 1945 in Hawaii. So please stop saying you were under "Martial law"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial...tes_of_America

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16272304)
What is your source as the CDC says approximately 36,000 die annually from "ordinary flu"?

Link me to that.

Agent 488 09-03-2009 10:14 AM

i used to work in a hospital. full on preparations for a global pandemic were in full effect back then. if you think this is some recent mass hysteria drummed by liberals your are fucked in the head.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16272227)
Whats the death count so far this year? Whats the death count for normal flu this year? This whole fucking thing is a joke, and anyone that buys into it is retarded.

556 swine flu deaths.


Here are some statistics for all flu type deaths from 79 to 2001

1979: 604
1981: 3,006
1983: 1,431
1985: 2,054
1987: 632
1989: 1,593
1991: 1,137
1993: 1,044
1995: 606
1996: 745
1997: 720
1998: 1,724
1999: 1,665
2000: 1,765
2001: 257


In other words.. stfu about fuckin swine flu you retards in the media.

Better vaccinate for car accident related deaths its a PANDEMIC!!


A preview of results from the 2006 Annual Assessment of Motor Vehicle Traffic Crash Fatalities and Injuries shows that the number of people killed in the United States in motor vehicle traffic crashes declined from 43,510 in 2005 to 42,642, the lowest level in five years.

OMG OMG OMG and that is just in the U.S OMG OMG OMG!!

The fuckin chance of any one of us catching the fuckin retarded swine flu is next to 0%. And for that risk Im going to let someone inject me or my children with an unproven vaccine that could cause bad health issues later in life, or even death earlier than expected? FUCK THAT! All you "vacciners" can have my dose so there is more to go around.

Its so hysterical to watch the typical retard roundup about the swine flu. Mostly the same group that believes in global warming, and the ozone layer disappearing, and the bird flu, and all the other bs that the media feed us. Some people see the pattern of these little "scares" and laugh really hard. We hardly heard anything about the big bad global warming this summer why is that? Where are all these hundreds of killer hurricanes that were predicted due to the "global warming dilemma"? Why was this one of the coldest summers that I can recall? barely September and its not even that hot out today.

Ferris Buller's principal had it right about people be led down the "prim rose path" lmao


theking 09-03-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16272322)
Link me to that.

Here is one article.

http://www.questia.com/googleScholar...cId=5002525608

TheSenator 09-03-2009 10:14 AM

Anybody want to throw a "Swine FLU" party?

Tom_PM 09-03-2009 10:15 AM

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm

Going to the source is easy.

edit: one interesting tidbit from todays news though. Reported that 36 children have died "from" H1N1 so far, HOWEVER.. 2/3s of them were already suffering from some other illness or condition. In other words, they were already weakened.

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-03-2009 10:19 AM

My mom is a nurse in a hospital. I called her last night to see what was up and she was sick as a dog. She told me she started with a sore throat yesterday morning and I called her around 8:30 pm. She sounded like death warmed over. I am hoping she doesn't have swine flu. She told me 3 of the girls she works with have this same "cold". My mom is in her 60's and has asthma. She gets up every day at 4 am to work full time. I told her she needs to take better care of herself. She's not a spring chicken anymore.

Porn Grounds 09-03-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272066)
Should Public School Kids Be Forced the H1N1 Vaccine?

I'm torn on this one because an outbreak would cause an immediate harm to the community. By default, any thing that causes an immediate harm should be taken care of immediately.

Forcing the H1N1 vaccine without my permission would be a slippery slope. What else would they force on the public???

I am torn on it also. I don't know which is worse to be honest...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272085)
Forced Vaccinations in Massachusetts???

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...df/st02028.pdf

No they are forced if there is a full out pandemic in that area.


People don't realize that we aren't a healthy nation to begin with. Most people don't even wash their hands after using a public rest room :Oh crap

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16272337)
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm

Going to the source is easy.

edit: one interesting tidbit from todays news though. Reported that 36 children have died "from" H1N1 so far, HOWEVER.. 2/3s of them were already suffering from some other illness or condition. In other words, they were already weakened.

http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf yup and then read that and see how the combine Flu and Pneumonia together, and look at the highest age statistic to die due to the "flu" Then look at flu only related deaths.

They skew shit so bad. Yes once you get over a certain age your immune system goes to shit. Getting just a cold can trigger pneumonia, or flu. But the fact here is its mainly the elderly that die, and its from PNEUMONIA not from flu.

Just silly.

btw see you edited just as I quoted you. So you kind of "get it" too. :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16272329)
i used to work in a hospital. full on preparations for a global pandemic were in full effect back then. if you think this is some recent mass hysteria drummed by liberals your are fucked in the head.

Where did I state its something new? Try re reading what I wrote where I say this same shit happens year after year. Some new scare, some new flu, blah blah blah. I said exactly the opposite of what you claimed I did.

IllTestYourGirls 09-03-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16272080)
your daughter was already forced to have shots before attending public school.

all kids are vaccinated and not allowed to enter public schools unless vaccinated, id assume swine flu shots are next on the list.

wow you are grossly misinformed :2 cents:

theking 09-03-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16272391)
http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf yup and then read that and see how the combine Flu and Pneumonia together, and look at the highest age statistic to die due to the "flu" Then look at flu only related deaths.

They skew shit so bad. Yes once you get over a certain age your immune system goes to shit. Getting just a cold can trigger pneumonia, or flu. But the fact here is its mainly the elderly that die, and its from PNEUMONIA not from flu.

Just silly.

btw see you edited just as I quoted you. So you kind of "get it" too. :winkwink:

Do you not understand "flu related causes"? If you want to be specifically technical the only thing that any one dies from is heart failure...in that ones heart quits beating...but it often quits beating because of "related causes" such as "flu related causes".

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 10:29 AM

http://www.thinktwice.com/flu_lie.htm good read.

DWB 09-03-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16272080)
your daughter was already forced to have shots before attending public school.

all kids are vaccinated and not allowed to enter public schools unless vaccinated, id assume swine flu shots are next on the list.

One more reason not to live in the USA. :2 cents:

TheSenator 09-03-2009 10:32 AM

This is last year map of H1N1 outbreak through the world.

It should pretty much follow the same pattern this year.

http://healthmap.org/swineflu/

Fletch XXX 09-03-2009 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16272406)
wow you are grossly misinformed :2 cents:

yeah in america no children are forced to have vaccinations before attending public school LOL :1orglaugh

Tom_PM 09-03-2009 10:37 AM

Flu really has always been one of those things that if you are healthy as a horse, it'll knock you on your ass. If you're not healthy as a horse, it'll kill ya (without drugs).

TheSenator 09-03-2009 10:38 AM

Here is a current Google Map of H1N1 outbreaks.

http://tinyurl.com/l7my3

Quagmire 09-03-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16272080)
your daughter was already forced to have shots before attending public school.

all kids are vaccinated and not allowed to enter public schools unless vaccinated, id assume swine flu shots are next on the list.

Yeah, shots that have been around for a looooong time and tested. not some flu vaccine they've pulled out of their asses in the last 90 days.

And of course they are shots for things that are much worse than h1n1.

My daughter is not a guinea pig for them to test out their meds on.

Quagmire 09-03-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272462)
Here is a current Google Map of H1N1 outbreaks.

http://tinyurl.com/l7my3

wtf?? http://www.bazaarbooks.gr/pages/cont...=960-325-081-3

JC Maldini 09-03-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16272462)
Here is a current Google Map of H1N1 outbreaks.

http://tinyurl.com/l7my3

Here is one on Diarrhea outbreak

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&resnum=0&q=diarrhea%20outbreak%20map&um =1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Fletch XXX 09-03-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16272490)

My daughter is not a guinea pig for them to test out their meds on.

I can understand that, but once your child is part of public school system, and during the hours of school, she is under state control and if they feel she must be vaccinated, she will be, or she will not be attending school anymore. They can contain your child without even informing you, police can question her, FBi etc,... all without your concent.

And as someone who went to private school, I can assure you, parents of private school kids will not want her in their class unless vaccinated, so one way or the other, everyone will go along with plan.


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