Hey Nathan/Fabian...the U.S. Justice Dept. Might Take Your Pornhub Domain From You
 

How do you like that?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1828922520101118

The Senate passed it today. Pirate domains are coming down.

You've said over and over on GFY that the tube sites only represent a very small part of Manwin's revenue.

Never made sense to me to bring all this heat on yourself since you claim you didn't make much on it anyway. But now it looks like you BETTER clean it up and stop hiding behind DMCA, because if you don't...pornhub could end up a parked domain with the Justice Dept. logo on it.

And you deserve it too.

Whoot whoot! its almost time to celebrate..

Bro dont hate the playa hate the game.

Will never happen,

That is not what the bill is about.

they respond to dmca's don't they? they are legal. nothing will happen to them.

educate yourself dude. it's not 2002 anymore.

shut your canadian scarf wearing metrosexual pansy ass up.

Yah it's not gonna happen.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Here is just ONE thread about them NOT responding to DMCA's

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=930652

I am in the porn biz for a living. Have skin in the game. I am educated on it. I'm not even sure where you're getting the "2002" from. I started online in the mid 1990's.

And hiding behind DMCA isn't gonna cut it anymore. Read that article. Too much money is being lost by mainstream companies from pirates dancing with DMCA.

Exactly right.

With Google images, and YouTube, this is not over by a long shot.

:2 cents:

They play the DMCA game, dude.

Time to educate yourself.

Oh wait. You're not a content producer. You've never been told your content is coming down, only to see it back up a few weeks later. That's why you think the way you do.

good one

but wait... what's the number of attempts to do something with them?..

It's sweet when people just read headlines.

what people want to happen and will happen are two different things. no point deluding yourself.

this bill wont effect any porn site in any way. it's clear when you read the bill.

dont worry robbie, i am planning a mission impossible style raid on their data center where i plan on short circuiting their servers with alligator piss....




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very small %, ya right, I would bet the network of tube sites are a MAJOR portion.

At first mansef/manwin whatever you wanna call them denied even owning the site, said it wasnt in their business model.

Wish someone other than Nathan would post, since he doesnt really own a large stake in this, hes only the gfy poster boy to handle the PR nightmare.

:helpme

:1orglaugh No need to bro...Nathan/Fabian is consulting with his lawyers as we speak. They will surely give him even more great legal advice.

No matter what some of the people on here who are fans of such things may think...Stevie Wonder could see that stealing is going to lead to pirate sites getting what's coming to them in the end. It was just a matter of time for the law to catch up with technology.

Why not? Piracy is piracy.

Come on Robbie, you're a smart guy. You know as well as I do, that new proposal is only meant for sites dealing in counterfeit goods, music, and software piracy. The government doesn't give a shit about piracy in the adult industry. When has the government EVER helped the adult industry in any way??

One bright spot for Nathan/Fabian is this:
Once this piracy shit is under control again, sales will be up on my affiliate work again and my free sites will once again be able to sell memberships because the entire members areas of the sites I promote will no longer be available for free.

And that means I'll have room to hire another programmer. Nathan/Fabian has already stated in another post that he is very rusty and incapable at this point of even writing a simple script to eliminate all the stolen content on pornhub. He said that himself.
But I'm a nice guy. I'll hire you as a programmer and give you a few months to get back up to speed.
It's been a loooonnnnnggggg time since Nathan/Fabian helped write NATS version 1. A lot of stuff has changed. But I'll give him some time to play catch up.

Second that.

I bet this is about shutting down sites like WikiLeaks.org which has exposed war crimes committed by US and allies.

Someone doesn't want the truth to surface. :2 cents:

If this means we get rid of the tubes and illegal filehosts. Great, but I doubt the law is going to be used for that..

obviously you never read the article, let alone the bill.

take half an hour and come back, or you can delude yourself it says something it doesn't say. whatever gets you through the day.

The govt. doesn't want to help us in any way. Matter of fact they are GLAD we are getting destroyed by piracy.

But the article says this (I capitalized the word MOVIE):
"The bill allows the Justice Department to seek a court order against the domain name of websites offering illegal music or MOVIE downloads or ones that sell counterfeit goods ranging from fake tennis shoes to pharmaceutical products."

As much as I have hope for this...

Its likely to just be another soft legal patch, complete with an as-yet unseen major loophole, and fixing the 'loophole' will take another 10 years before another 'soft legal patch' is attempted.

and round and round we go.

but I'll throw my optimism into the ring once again.

On the other side, now they can shut down sites that distribute porn on mass scale. Not because it's porn, but because of piracy. That will be their excuse.

everything will just be moved further offshore if they are worried.

You really didn't read this thing did you?
This law is aimed at folks trying that. They are taking the DOMAINS. In other words you can be sitting anywhere in the world you want to...but if you have no website you have nothing.

Please go read it. You'll be pleasantly surprised at what it can do.

How hard is it to read further than the headline?

if the registrar is in the US, yes. but,

"If the registry is located outside the United States, the U.S. Attorney General could go after the website by requiring U.S.-based Internet service providers, payment processors and advertising networks to stop doing business with it."

so as i said, it is just going to push the above deeper offshore.

Of course there are some 1ammed issues here too.

If the gov. can hold / take away a persons domain - how far can that go?

I can see alot of legal issues coming forth, EFF, Aclu, etc.

The gov. might start with illegal sites and all but what about next..

Interesting. I wonder if the loss of national independence will lead to ICANN losing its role as the governing body of the internet.

Maybe a new global organisation will be created? Perhaps U.N. will step in?

then people will just move to a european or canadian host to avoid US laws

You're not understanding what this is saying. It doesn't matter if their registar is in the U.S.

Just like if I go after a domain name that infringes on my trademark. It doesn't matter.
ICANN has the final say on EVERY domain.

Plus you're not even taking into account what it's saying about processing and advertising networks.

This bill has the potential to really slap the shit out of pirates.

and when the domain in question is parked with the nice logo of the Justice Dept. another domain will be up and with the use of Social Media it will be flocked within seconds again, repeat and rinse etc. etc etc.

So does Captain Slappy, The Anti-Piracy Octopus, but he is about as likely as this bill is to make any difference to porn piracy.

My view is more grim, however I do believe it is realistic. That is, in order for adult tube sites to go extinct, all of the big mainstream tubes (i.e. youtube, metacafe, etc) would also have to go extinct. Nothing I've seen yet, makes me believe that will happen.

pirate sites are already losing their domains already. what they are doing is just moving to a new domain and updating people of the new one via their massive twitter and facebook followers. this will make life more difficult for the pirates but to think it is a game changer is ridiculous.

my guess: your reg date.

Robbie the bill has to do with Counterfeiting of goods being sold as the actual product. Which would include dvd's, cd's, downloadable media, etc.... "sold" as the Org good - this is "real" piracy. These people aren't subject to dmca, at all....

Tubes aren't pirating anything until you go to Court to prove otherwise - and so far no court has ever said they are. It's not piracy, it's copyright infringement. This ruling will not change anything, until dmca changes.