Scammer Alert: Content sellers beware - GoFuckYourself.com

The Duck · 01-02-2011, 06:23 AM

This guy bought a good chunk of content from me, paid with paypal but then had his bank charge back the amount claiming unauthorized access. After filing several documents to paypal's resolution investigation such as chat transcripts, email copies and the IP from which he connected to my server I actually won, and got my money back.

"We have completed our investigation of the transaction below and were
unable to find evidence of unauthorized access to the buyer?s account. This
case was denied to the buyer and no funds were recovered from your account."

Awesome.

Anyway, he is using the nickname preliatorlumen and the same for his AIM account. His name is Joshua Smith (supposedly) and he is using the email [email protected]. I have found one person on facebook which corresponds to both the name and the jesmith88 tag. Now keep in mind I am not sure this is the person but I will link anyway since I am pretty certain it is. http://www.facebook.com/jesmith88

Welshmorph · 01-02-2011, 06:38 AM

Thanks for the heads up.

Morph

fitzmulti · 01-02-2011, 06:42 AM

Geez man! Crappy thing to have happened, but I am glad you got to win the dispute!

~Ray · 01-02-2011, 07:01 AM

good job with the dispute. I bet he didn't see that coming.

u-Bob · 01-02-2011, 07:25 AM

thanks for the heads up... if you have any more info on him, be sure to post it...

Klen · 01-02-2011, 07:47 AM

Good to know you keeping logs.

woj · 01-02-2011, 07:53 AM

so paypal officially allows B2B selling of content now?

sologirlcontent · 01-02-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck

This guy bought a good chunk of content from me, paid with paypal but then had his bank charge back the amount claiming unauthorized access. After filing several documents to paypal's resolution investigation such as chat transcripts, email copies and the IP from which he connected to my server I actually won, and got my money back.

"We have completed our investigation of the transaction below and were
unable to find evidence of unauthorized access to the buyer?s account. This
case was denied to the buyer and no funds were recovered from your account."

Awesome.

Anyway, he is using the nickname preliatorlumen and the same for his AIM account. His name is Joshua Smith (supposedly) and he is using the email [email protected]. I have found one person on facebook which corresponds to both the name and the jesmith88 tag. Now keep in mind I am not sure this is the person but I will link anyway since I am pretty certain it is. http://www.facebook.com/jesmith88

that really sux, the only person i had do that to me in 7 years of selling content was BAREFOOTSIE..I was able to keep the money, but his fake dispute got my account flagged.

Paul Markham · 01-02-2011, 08:30 AM

Well done for getting your money back. Another scum bag revealed. Until he changes his profile.

I look into all new big buyers with a fine tooth comb. Freemail is a red flag.

CurrentlySober · 01-02-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Good to know you keeping logs.

I used to keep logs...

But when I stopped liking poo, I flushed them away...

The Duck · 01-02-2011, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

so paypal officially allows B2B selling of content now?

The logs I sent them contained detailed discussion outlining the deal as well as links to both gfy and my sample pages so there is no question that they knew it was an adult related transaction. I took a risk sending the logs to them but I was not going to let him get away with it without a fight.

TrainWreckContent · 01-02-2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck

The logs I sent them contained detailed discussion outlining the deal as well as links to both gfy and my sample pages so there is no question that they knew it was an adult related transaction. I took a risk sending the logs to them but I was not going to let him get away with it without a fight.

wow i am surprised they didnt say anything since it was adult....well good job anyway if you have any other info on this guy be sure to post it

lazycash · 01-02-2011, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sologirlcontent

that really sux, the only person i had do that to me in 7 years of selling content was BAREFOOTSIE..I was able to keep the money, but his fake dispute got my account flagged.

What was barefootsies reason for charging back and how were you able to stop the refund?

Deej · 01-02-2011, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

What was barefootsies reason for charging back and how were you able to stop the refund?

that just might be pushing it ...

FreeHugeMovies · 01-02-2011, 12:21 PM

Lives in NC

Barefootsies · 01-02-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

What was barefootsies reason for charging back and how were you able to stop the refund?

Asked and answered more than a dozen times (and 2 Bar Synister bannings

) in other threads, every time this clown shoe brings this shit up crying about it.

He can try and smear me all he likes. In the end it comes down to him bold face lying to both myself, and DT, for months about where the license was. It was not until I forced the dispute, I received what I had asked for.

After two months of waiting for my signed license, being lied to countless times that it was in the mail, or on the way, sending out Monday, whatever I filed the dispute to force his hand. Something he could have prevented in the first place by sending me what was asked for in a timely fashion, and he had told me many times "was in the mail".

What I did, was the same as anyone else would have done. Anyone looking at Simon's/sologirlcontent past can see that LYING about shit is nothing new.

Carry on.

2MuchMark · 01-02-2011, 01:22 PM

Thanks for the heads-up and congrats on keeping your funds where they belong. Say what you want about Paypal but they really know their stuff and always reward GOOD merchants without very good support. 'Pal's worth their fees.

JustDaveXxx · 01-02-2011, 01:35 PM

Thanx for the heads up.

ruff · 01-02-2011, 01:38 PM

I have a few chargebacks with Paypal customers and I have never won. Even after detailed emails, password protected content and physically sending the product. It seems if the buyer wants to contest any transaction, Paypal just rolls over and let's them get their money back and keep the product. Paypal fucking sucks. You are lucky that you got your money, I would have given odds against it.

sologirlcontent · 01-02-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

What was barefootsies reason for charging back and how were you able to stop the refund?

his reason, was he didn't get a physical copy of license, just emailed version..he already had the content months before...I sent him physcial copy, he didn't drop it, but PP sgot confirmation of fed-ex shipment...got money back.

he never sent his signed copy back for our files , leaving him with unlicensed content

sologirlcontent · 01-02-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Asked and answered more than a dozen times (and 2 Bar Synister bannings

) in other threads, every time this clown shoe brings this shit up crying about it.

He can try and smear me all he likes. In the end it comes down to him bold face lying to both myself, and DT, for months about where the license was. It was not until I forced the dispute, I received what I had asked for.

After two months of waiting for my signed license, being lied to countless times that it was in the mail, or on the way, sending out Monday, whatever I filed the dispute to force his hand. Something he could have prevented in the first place by sending me what was asked for in a timely fashion, and he had told me many times "was in the mail".

What I did, was the same as anyone else would have done. Anyone looking at Simon's/sologirlcontent past can see that LYING about shit is nothing new.

Carry on.

nothing lying..i posted the PP logs, facts, plain and simple..but you didn't get your money back did you and you didn't send me the signed contract back...did you? Bitch

Loki · 01-02-2011, 02:11 PM

Thanks for the heads up!

added to my watch list.

-Loki-

Barefootsies · 01-02-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sologirlcontent

but you didn't get your money back did you

Sorry toots, but your lying was what led to your own issue. The goal was never to get the money back. The goal was to get my signed license. Which I asked for repeatedly, and was told repeatedly, was in the mail. After two months of lies, I got tired of waiting.

You could have simply sent me what I asked for within a week instead of lying for 2 months. You opted to do the latter. You dug your own hold with Paypal and the dispute. Something easily avoided. Don't be crying like a little bitch because your own actions brought about consequences. You could have avoided it all together in the first place.

After reading your history on GFY for "last sale ever", or "leaving industry", "comic book or movie deals", and "sales a popping" threads.... anyone with a clue would ask for a signed license.

u-Bob · 01-02-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff

I have a few chargebacks with Paypal customers and I have never won. Even after detailed emails, password protected content and physically sending the product. It seems if the buyer wants to contest any transaction, Paypal just rolls over and let's them get their money back and keep the product. Paypal fucking sucks. You are lucky that you got your money, I would have given odds against it.

Paypal loves money... so they usually side with the biggest account.

rabbit · 01-02-2011, 06:28 PM

with so much free content out there, why would anyone go through the trouble of scamming a content company?

The Duck · 01-04-2011, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff

I have a few chargebacks with Paypal customers and I have never won. Even after detailed emails, password protected content and physically sending the product. It seems if the buyer wants to contest any transaction, Paypal just rolls over and let's them get their money back and keep the product. Paypal fucking sucks. You are lucky that you got your money, I would have given odds against it.

I have several experiences like that a couple of years ago but perhaps they have upped their game when it comes to fairly judging these cases.

iSpyCams · 01-04-2011, 09:59 AM

I do not understand why somebody would steal content from a content seller when it is so much easier to steal it directly from torrents.

It makes no sense to me.

The only logic I can think of is that maybe non exclusive content is less likely to get you a DMCA?

I've bought a lot of non-exclusive content on this board and so far Riggo is the only person who seems to give a rat's ass where it ends up getting published.

MaDalton · 01-04-2011, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

I do not understand why somebody would steal content from a content seller when it is so much easier to steal it directly from torrents.

It makes no sense to me.

The only logic I can think of is that maybe non exclusive content is less likely to get you a DMCA?

I've bought a lot of non-exclusive content on this board and so far Riggo is the only person who seems to give a rat's ass where it ends up getting published.

then you haven't bought from me yet

djroof · 01-04-2011, 11:08 AM

thanks for that

Klen · 01-04-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

then you haven't bought from me yet

You give rat's ass too

pornguy · 01-04-2011, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck

The logs I sent them contained detailed discussion outlining the deal as well as links to both gfy and my sample pages so there is no question that they knew it was an adult related transaction. I took a risk sending the logs to them but I was not going to let him get away with it without a fight.

get any and all of your money out of there right now before they Limit the account.

MaDalton · 01-04-2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

You give rat's ass too

i hope you're just joking - and if so it was a bad one...

iSpyCams · 01-04-2011, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

then you haven't bought from me yet

You are right I haven't but I will get around to you shortly if my income stream holds steady.

Remind me by the end of the month I plan to pick up both your GF pic and vid package.

I have a lot of stuff from Riggo and redglamour to sort, watermark describe and upload right now plus there may be some of NaughtyRob's sets I'm not done with so when that's taken care of I'll add your stuff if you don't mind.

I don't have any issues disclosing where I deploy content BTW, its just that Riggo is the only one who's ever asked me where I planned to publish.

vegasbobby · 01-04-2011, 01:38 PM

good for you. Bank love to legally steal.

czarina · 01-04-2011, 01:44 PM

glad to hear paypal gave you your money back

tranza · 01-04-2011, 03:41 PM

I'm glad you got your money back!!

MaDalton · 01-04-2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

You are right I haven't but I will get around to you shortly if my income stream holds steady.

Remind me by the end of the month I plan to pick up both your GF pic and vid package.

I have a lot of stuff from Riggo and redglamour to sort, watermark describe and upload right now plus there may be some of NaughtyRob's sets I'm not done with so when that's taken care of I'll add your stuff if you don't mind.

I don't have any issues disclosing where I deploy content BTW, its just that Riggo is the only one who's ever asked me where I planned to publish.

by the end of the month i will have brand new content out, won't be long anymore

and all i care of is that the content is used within the license restrictions - which always should be read before the purchase. if the site is called xxxxx.com or yyyyy.com is not my business

The Duck · 01-18-2011, 06:19 AM

This scammer needs to be on display a bit more, bump.

The Duck · 01-25-2011, 01:28 PM

Watch out, he is online on ICQ right now. Of course not replying to my messages but it is probable that he is out there trying to scam someone at this moment.

DWB · 01-25-2011, 01:45 PM

Bump for you.

alf6300 · 01-25-2011, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck

Watch out, he is online on ICQ right now. Of course not replying to my messages but it is probable that he is out there trying to scam someone at this moment.

could you post his icq # perhaps? I had a weird conversation on icq earlier today and when i saw this thread i made a connection...

(but sent no money to whomever)

{Psycho} · 01-25-2011, 03:25 PM

Cheers for winning the dispute

The Duck · 02-15-2011, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300

could you post his icq # perhaps? I had a weird conversation on icq earlier today and when i saw this thread i made a connection...

(but sent no money to whomever)

He is using aim with the screen name preliatorlumen. Apparently you can talk between icq/aim accounts?

CyberHustler · 02-15-2011, 08:11 AM

+1 for Paypal

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TheyPullMeBackIn · 03-25-2011, 06:14 AM

gotta love people trying to get something for nothing

adultzone · 03-25-2011, 06:25 AM

Thanks for the facebook we can see those scammer's face!!

01-02-2011, 06:23 AM	#1
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	Scammer Alert: Content sellers beware This guy bought a good chunk of content from me, paid with paypal but then had his bank charge back the amount claiming unauthorized access. After filing several documents to paypal's resolution investigation such as chat transcripts, email copies and the IP from which he connected to my server I actually won, and got my money back. "We have completed our investigation of the transaction below and were unable to find evidence of unauthorized access to the buyer?s account. This case was denied to the buyer and no funds were recovered from your account." Awesome. Anyway, he is using the nickname preliatorlumen and the same for his AIM account. His name is Joshua Smith (supposedly) and he is using the email [email protected]. I have found one person on facebook which corresponds to both the name and the jesmith88 tag. Now keep in mind I am not sure this is the person but I will link anyway since I am pretty certain it is. http://www.facebook.com/jesmith88 __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

01-02-2011, 06:38 AM	#2
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01-02-2011, 06:42 AM	#3
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01-02-2011, 07:01 AM	#4
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01-02-2011, 07:53 AM	#7
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01-02-2011, 07:25 AM	#5
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01-02-2011, 07:47 AM	#6
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01-02-2011, 08:30 AM	#9
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01-02-2011, 01:22 PM	#17
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01-02-2011, 01:35 PM	#18
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01-02-2011, 01:38 PM	#19
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01-02-2011, 02:11 PM	#22
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01-02-2011, 06:28 PM	#25
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01-04-2011, 09:59 AM	#27
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01-04-2011, 11:08 AM	#29
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01-04-2011, 01:38 PM	#34
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01-04-2011, 01:44 PM	#35
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01-04-2011, 03:41 PM	#36
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01-18-2011, 06:19 AM	#38
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01-25-2011, 01:28 PM	#39
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01-25-2011, 01:45 PM	#40
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01-25-2011, 03:25 PM	#42
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02-15-2011, 08:11 AM	#44
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03-25-2011, 03:27 AM	#45
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03-25-2011, 06:14 AM	#46
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03-25-2011, 06:25 AM	#47
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