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Tekiloved · 12-08-2010, 05:55 AM

Up to october it was the best BDSM and Gay BDSM partnership with 1:600 ratio. But from november very bad ratio..... And what about U?

signupdamnit · 12-08-2010, 06:48 AM

Things got very bad with them this year for me after many years. I quit putting up new links.

Fabien · 12-08-2010, 08:46 AM

1:23000 here

Tekiloved · 12-08-2010, 09:15 AM

Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio?

bns666 · 12-08-2010, 10:30 AM

no signup or rebill for few days already there...

Qbert · 12-08-2010, 10:34 AM

All the Kink.com sponsored clips on Pornhub network can't be helping affiliate ratios. I pulled all my Kinky Dollars links earlier this year when I discovered those sponsored clips.

xxxjay · 12-08-2010, 12:28 PM

I won't promote them because they have so many trafic leaks to their DVD and VOD you don't get credit for.

It's a shame because they are one of the better studios.

Fat Panda · 12-08-2010, 12:30 PM

good information to know

Fletch XXX · 12-08-2010, 12:31 PM

used to do so good with em too.

signupdamnit · 12-08-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

used to do so good with em too.

Same here. They used to be my #2 sponsor for years. But suddenly I lost a lot of rebills and the ratios climbed at the beginning of the year. It hurt but when your ratio gets to 1:6,000 for the year I HAVE to pull the plug. It doesn't matter if you're my own mother.

Business is business. They always paid though. I have to give them that.

DBS.US · 12-08-2010, 12:40 PM

0 sales last month

Roald · 12-08-2010, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I won't promote them because they have so many trafic leaks to their DVD and VOD you don't get credit for.

It's a shame because they are one of the better studios.

Are you sure you dont get paid for those? Cause I am pretty sure I see sales on those sites while we don;t really push them.

femdomdestiny · 12-08-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekiloved

Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio?

Here it is , captain.

TerryM · 12-08-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Are you sure you dont get paid for those? Cause I am pretty sure I see sales on those sites while we don;t really push them.

Just to clear up any misconception: Webmasters are paid for all Kink On Demand purchases made from any tour. Also, we do not sell DVDs on our tours.

TerryM · 12-08-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekiloved

Up to october it was the best BDSM and Gay BDSM partnership with 1:600 ratio. But from november very bad ratio..... And what about U?

Hey Tekiloved,

We have some new tools we are rolling out, hit me up via email and we can get started. It should help conversions. We are going to make an announcement soon about it.

Cheers,

Terry

djroof · 12-08-2010, 01:55 PM

nice ratio 1:600 ;)

Argos88 · 12-08-2010, 03:57 PM

1:3500...

Hard to get sales... but their retention is incredible...

I wish the ratio was better, BUT their content is all over pornbb or extreme-board or torrents... so.. we can't expect better ratios really..

All their complete site rips are all over pornbb.org... TERA BYTES OF HD CONTENT...

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alias · 12-08-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Things got very bad with them this year for me after many years. I quit putting up new links.

This ^.

Fuck em.

alias · 12-08-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekiloved

Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio?

http://convertingsponsors.com/ has Spice Cash listed! They are good for mobile fetish too.

SGS · 12-08-2010, 04:23 PM

We used to do ok with kink (our best non ccbill sponsor) but pulled all of our links as we had issues with our affiliate username being printed on checks.

femdomdestiny · 12-08-2010, 04:26 PM

I've pulled almost all of my links since conversion ratios went extremely high. Probably because their sites are oversaturated and content available on torrents and tubes.Alo ,in this moment, they are missing paxum payment option, so checks are pain in the ass for overseas webmasters like me.

RyuLion · 12-08-2010, 04:30 PM

Guys! their retention is crazy, I haven't put up much new content on my blogs but their retention is crazy good!

willwank · 12-08-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

Guys! their retention is crazy, I haven't put up much new content on my blogs but their retention is crazy good!

Agree but when signups are drying up retention really doesn't matter in the end, there is nothing to retain. Somehow this need to change soon. I hate this because KD sites are among the absolute best sites a customer will ever see.

TerryM · 12-08-2010, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

I've pulled almost all of my links since conversion ratios went extremely high. Probably because their sites are oversaturated and content available on torrents and tubes.Alo ,in this moment, they are missing paxum payment option, so checks are pain in the ass for overseas webmasters like me.

We are implementing a new payout solution as we speak. I will post back in the thread when we have launched it. We have also stepped up our Anti-Piracy efforts across the board.

signupdamnit · 12-08-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrykink

We have also stepped up our Anti-Piracy efforts across the board.

Wise move.

I'll watch my stats and promote again if they start coming back to reasonable levels.

signupdamnit · 12-08-2010, 05:24 PM

Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason)

To kink.com

2007: 1:600
2008: 1:1,100
2009: 1:1,300
2010: 1:4,800

Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

alias · 12-08-2010, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason)

To kink.com

2007: 1:600
2008: 1:1,100
2009: 1:1,300
2010: 1:4,800

Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

No lie there.

AmeliaG · 12-08-2010, 05:32 PM

1:1586 for me with Kink so far this year.

2009 1:1087
2008 1:980
2007 1:554

None of which is the glory of 2005 numbers or before, but, in the current economy, that doesn't suck.

signupdamnit · 12-08-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

1:1586 for me with Kink so far this year.

2009 1:1087
2008 1:980
2007 1:554

None of which is the glory of 2005 numbers or before, but, in the current economy, that doesn't suck.

My problem is that my global average for all programs is around 1:1,400 in 2010. I'd be satisfied with that. But not 1:4,800. Hopefully 2011 is better.

Forkbeard · 12-08-2010, 07:00 PM

I was 1:3173 in October, and gross new sales numbers dropped so badly that I didn't get the 60% affiliate share for the first time in forever. So I said fuckit and pretty much stopped putting up new material for them. Like somebody else said, business is business -- I treasure my long and productive business relationship with the Kink.com people, but there's a limit to how much traffic you can send chasing ratios that bad.

Then in November on zero effort and old links (of which I have umpty-jillion) my Kink ratio went back up to 1:1734 and I got a ton of small sales. Ratio so far this month on modest renewed effort (a few blog posts) is 1:1817. So, the long horrible ratios slide seems to have taken a breather for me. I did see some modest search engine placement improvements that might explain it -- I can't swear it's part of any broader trends.

2007: 1:1079
2008: 1:1392
2009: 1:1735
2010: 1:1988

Argos88 · 12-08-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason)

To kink.com

2007: 1:600
2008: 1:1,100
2009: 1:1,300
2010: 1:4,800

Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

quoted for truth.

Their content is all over pornbb and extreme-board and torrents and rapid clones and and and....

I send kinkydollars staff many threads with complete site rips to help them report them, but unfortunately it takes lots of time to do, I'm not an employer and nobody pays for the time I do that... Other webmasters should do the same when they see such threads..

KINK and Peter should hire employers to do that 24/7 if they really care about their content.

their complete site rips with updates are available for download for FREE all over the internet.

Which surfer will be so stupid to join and pay for that if they can get it for FREE at one of those ILLEGAL SITES suported by AWEMPIRE.

AWEMPIRE is definitely an enemy to this business, can't believe so many stupid webmasters promote AWEMPIRE... Suckers.

.

botfurom · 12-08-2010, 10:24 PM

1:30 Chat Traffic here!!

Forkbeard · 12-08-2010, 10:48 PM

I stopped sending Kink.com links to pirated content many years ago ... so many years ago that Tony was still the affiliate manager. His response back then was basically "as long as it's got our watermark on it, we basically consider it free advertising." Ahh, those were the fat days!

CunningStunt · 12-08-2010, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forkbeard

I stopped sending Kink.com links to pirated content many years ago ... so many years ago that Tony was still the affiliate manager. His response back then was basically "as long as it's got our watermark on it, we basically consider it free advertising." Ahh, those were the fat days!

Spot on.

1:1915 last month, I haven't touched their sites in about 3 years. Still getting rebills after rebills though on historic sales, they really do retain those customers well.

Shame about their stance on piracy

jimmycooper · 12-08-2010, 10:54 PM

Fuck AWE!
this is kind of unrelated, but I just whipped this site up on a whim so we could have a master list of traffic pissers. Check it out.
http://trafficleaks.wordpress.com/

Slappin Fish · 12-09-2010, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrykink

We have also stepped up our Anti-Piracy efforts across the board.

It's badly needed. Shame to put so much effort producing a quality product then let i go to waste by not dedicating at least some resources fighting against piracy.

2intense · 12-09-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabien

1:23000 here

nice ratio

Tekiloved · 12-09-2010, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Here it is , captain.

Already!

They launch new site with excellent ratio

BradBreakfast · 12-09-2010, 03:56 AM

I suggest you people start sending traffic to BoundGods, gay always converts better. With that being said, I think KINK.com is an upstanding company, while nobody is perfect, try to do their best.

just a punk · 12-09-2010, 04:30 AM

I'll wait for paxum or payoneer

dev777 · 12-09-2010, 04:39 AM

1:4000 last month but they retain twice as good as anyone else. I average $60 per join on rev share.

Like everyone else said.. their content is widely available for free on various forums. Full HD site rips. No doubt that has played a role in the ratios.

bns666 · 12-09-2010, 06:15 AM

1:3414 for 2010

Tekiloved · 12-09-2010, 07:20 AM

Last months:
Bound Gods
July - 1:316
August - 1:551
September - 1:675
October - 1:596
November - 1:1306
December - no sales for any site.....
Traffic from Gay BDSM Cj`s with a lot of SE, Gay BDSM blogs, top lists..... From this traffic ratio for Kashcaboom sites - 1:300 or over that......

BradBreakfast · 12-09-2010, 07:59 AM

People become Kink members for the quality and community it provides, those who would rather download multiple split files from file-sharing forums and sites like RapidShare and Hotfile are the people who will NEVER pay for content, and not the kind of people you want in your membership base anyways. A lot of the people [though, not all] who do that are on fixed incomes or disability thus they have unlimited time on their hands to locate and re-pair such downloads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dev777

1:4000 last month but they retain twice as good as anyone else. I average $60 per join on rev share.

Like everyone else said.. their content is widely available for free on various forums. Full HD site rips. No doubt that has played a role in the ratios.

Forkbeard · 12-09-2010, 08:10 AM

It occurs to me that a smart program would have a BOUNTY program to help catch pirates -- an automated submission URL for tips about pirated stuff. Good tips would be rewarded with free access -- in Kink.com's case, this would be easy to calibrate using Kinks.

stever · 12-09-2010, 08:16 AM

1:35 this year with kink
members area traffic though

bns666 · 12-10-2010, 01:52 AM

Something could really be happening on their billing side, almost whole week no signup OR rebill...

All those months at least if there would be no signup, a rebill here and there would happen...

Davy · 12-10-2010, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

0 sales last month

Time to change your sig, don't you think?

bns666 · 12-13-2010, 02:35 PM

with all of the kink.com siterips and vids on tubes and torrents why would anybody actually buy membership.......

CunningStunt · 12-13-2010, 02:53 PM

I've signed up with 3 other programs which cover all bases, pulling all links this week other than one super niche site which sells off the charts.

12-08-2010, 05:55 AM	#1
Tekiloved Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 243	Kinky Dollars ratio.... Up to october it was the best BDSM and Gay BDSM partnership with 1:600 ratio. But from november very bad ratio..... And what about U? __________________ Gay and Gay BDSM webmasters - money here!

12-08-2010, 09:15 AM	#4
Tekiloved Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 243	Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio? __________________ Gay and Gay BDSM webmasters - money here!

12-08-2010, 10:30 AM	#5
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12-08-2010, 12:28 PM	#7
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	I won't promote them because they have so many trafic leaks to their DVD and VOD you don't get credit for. It's a shame because they are one of the better studios. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

12-08-2010, 12:31 PM	#9
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12-08-2010, 06:48 AM	#2
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Things got very bad with them this year for me after many years. I quit putting up new links.

12-08-2010, 08:46 AM	#3
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	1:23000 here

12-08-2010, 10:34 AM	#6
Qbert Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 813	All the Kink.com sponsored clips on Pornhub network can't be helping affiliate ratios. I pulled all my Kinky Dollars links earlier this year when I discovered those sponsored clips.

12-08-2010, 12:30 PM	#8
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	good information to know

12-08-2010, 12:40 PM	#11
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12-08-2010, 01:55 PM	#16
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,393	nice ratio 1:600 ;)

12-08-2010, 03:57 PM	#17
Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	1:3500... Hard to get sales... but their retention is incredible... I wish the ratio was better, BUT their content is all over pornbb or extreme-board or torrents... so.. we can't expect better ratios really.. All their complete site rips are all over pornbb.org... TERA BYTES OF HD CONTENT... .

12-08-2010, 04:23 PM	#20
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	We used to do ok with kink (our best non ccbill sponsor) but pulled all of our links as we had issues with our affiliate username being printed on checks. __________________ See sig...

12-08-2010, 04:26 PM	#21
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,175	dropped I've pulled almost all of my links since conversion ratios went extremely high. Probably because their sites are oversaturated and content available on torrents and tubes.Alo ,in this moment, they are missing paxum payment option, so checks are pain in the ass for overseas webmasters like me. __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

12-08-2010, 04:30 PM	#22
RyuLion ClubDomCash.com Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 32,243	Guys! their retention is crazy, I haven't put up much new content on my blogs but their retention is crazy good! __________________ Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995

12-08-2010, 05:24 PM	#26
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason) To kink.com 2007: 1:600 2008: 1:1,100 2009: 1:1,300 2010: 1:4,800 Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

12-08-2010, 05:32 PM	#28
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,560	1:1586 for me with Kink so far this year. 2009 1:1087 2008 1:980 2007 1:554 None of which is the glory of 2005 numbers or before, but, in the current economy, that doesn't suck. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

12-08-2010, 07:00 PM	#30
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	I was 1:3173 in October, and gross new sales numbers dropped so badly that I didn't get the 60% affiliate share for the first time in forever. So I said fuckit and pretty much stopped putting up new material for them. Like somebody else said, business is business -- I treasure my long and productive business relationship with the Kink.com people, but there's a limit to how much traffic you can send chasing ratios that bad. Then in November on zero effort and old links (of which I have umpty-jillion) my Kink ratio went back up to 1:1734 and I got a ton of small sales. Ratio so far this month on modest renewed effort (a few blog posts) is 1:1817. So, the long horrible ratios slide seems to have taken a breather for me. I did see some modest search engine placement improvements that might explain it -- I can't swear it's part of any broader trends. 2007: 1:1079 2008: 1:1392 2009: 1:1735 2010: 1:1988 __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

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12-08-2010, 10:48 PM	#33
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	I stopped sending Kink.com links to pirated content many years ago ... so many years ago that Tony was still the affiliate manager. His response back then was basically "as long as it's got our watermark on it, we basically consider it free advertising." Ahh, those were the fat days! __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

12-08-2010, 10:54 PM	#35
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	Fuck AWE! this is kind of unrelated, but I just whipped this site up on a whim so we could have a master list of traffic pissers. Check it out. http://trafficleaks.wordpress.com/ __________________

12-09-2010, 03:56 AM	#39
BradBreakfast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 415	I suggest you people start sending traffic to BoundGods, gay always converts better. With that being said, I think KINK.com is an upstanding company, while nobody is perfect, try to do their best.

12-09-2010, 04:30 AM	#40
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,384	I'll wait for paxum or payoneer __________________ Obey the Cowgod

12-09-2010, 04:39 AM	#41
dev777 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 366	1:4000 last month but they retain twice as good as anyone else. I average $60 per join on rev share. Like everyone else said.. their content is widely available for free on various forums. Full HD site rips. No doubt that has played a role in the ratios.

12-09-2010, 06:15 AM	#42
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12-09-2010, 07:20 AM	#43
Tekiloved Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 243	Last months: Bound Gods July - 1:316 August - 1:551 September - 1:675 October - 1:596 November - 1:1306 December - no sales for any site..... Traffic from Gay BDSM Cj`s with a lot of SE, Gay BDSM blogs, top lists..... From this traffic ratio for Kashcaboom sites - 1:300 or over that...... __________________ Gay and Gay BDSM webmasters - money here!

12-09-2010, 08:10 AM	#45
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	It occurs to me that a smart program would have a BOUNTY program to help catch pirates -- an automated submission URL for tips about pirated stuff. Good tips would be rewarded with free access -- in Kink.com's case, this would be easy to calibrate using Kinks. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services. Last edited by Forkbeard; 12-09-2010 at 08:12 AM..

12-09-2010, 08:16 AM	#46
stever Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,715	1:35 this year with kink members area traffic though __________________ Brutal Bucks has extreme sites that convert!

12-10-2010, 01:52 AM	#47
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12-13-2010, 02:35 PM	#49
bns666 Confirmed Fetishist Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fetishland Posts: 11,526	with all of the kink.com siterips and vids on tubes and torrents why would anybody actually buy membership....... __________________ ⭐ CAM SODA ⭐ STRIPCHAT ⭐ ⭐ CHATURBATE ⭐ X LOVE CAM ⭐

12-13-2010, 02:53 PM	#50
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	I've signed up with 3 other programs which cover all bases, pulling all links this week other than one super niche site which sells off the charts.