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Old 04-27-2011, 11:54 AM   #101
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I've never really formulated an opinion either way on this, but I still don't understand why Obama wasn't forced to produce this birth certificate before he was elected? I just had to provide a birth certificate and immunization record in order to register my daughter for kindergarten, shouldn't we at least expect this as a prerequisite for the most powerful position in America?

The fact that he's producing one now after all of the scrutiny he's had to endure while in office, sure makes one wonder why there wasn't a little more effort put forth to get this out earlier.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:59 AM   #102
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I've never really formulated an opinion either way on this, but I still don't understand why Obama wasn't forced to produce this birth certificate before he was elected? I just had to provide a birth certificate and immunization record in order to register my daughter for kindergarten, shouldn't we at least expect this as a prerequisite for the most powerful position in America?

The fact that he's producing one now after all of the scrutiny he's had to endure while in office, sure makes one wonder why there wasn't a little more effort put forth to get this out earlier.
it takes a while to make a good fake
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I've never really formulated an opinion either way on this, but I still don't understand why Obama wasn't forced to produce this birth certificate before he was elected? I just had to provide a birth certificate and immunization record in order to register my daughter for kindergarten, shouldn't we at least expect this as a prerequisite for the most powerful position in America?

The fact that he's producing one now after all of the scrutiny he's had to endure while in office, sure makes one wonder why there wasn't a little more effort put forth to get this out earlier.
Obama was required and did produce a valid birth certificate as given by the state of
Hawaii.


That fact that some people don't trust the state of Hawaii was not in Obama's control.

You bought into bullshit and now your are trying to blame Obama for letting you buy it.

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I love how you just made that up.

actually he didn't, 96% of black voters voted for Obama
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:34 PM   #105
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I can't wait to hear that he has to prove he isn't a robot now.
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:37 PM   #106
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Not to worry The Douchebag, errr, The Donald will wow us all and show his tax returns and all his friends that he has told us he gets along great with, ie "the blacks", will be astounded and say so long Obama, hellooo Trumpster.
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So Let's See Trump's Tax Returns Now



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Crusading Obama hater and leading (at least according to the polls) 2012 Republican candidate Donald Trump is apparently sorta paying attention to calls for him to disclose his net worth, because he announced he would "maybe" reveal his tax returns on Good Morning, America?except there's a catch: He'll only do it if President Obama will release his birth certificate.

The Donald told George Stephanopoulos, "Maybe I?m going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate?I?d love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama?s birth certificate."

Stephopoulos pointed out, "You say it?s all about the messenger. A lot of Republicans think you?re a flawed messenger for the party. Karl Rove, again over the weekend, saying you?re a joke candidate, if you continue to raise questions about President Obama?s citizenship," But Trump said, "There?s a real question about the birth certificate. There?s a real question about the-- his own-- his own citizenship."

And then Stephanopoulos tried to explain that a certificate of live birth is recognized by the State Department (too bad half of the Iowa GOP doesn't recognize it), with Trump insisting, "It?s a much different instrument." And when asked about the investigation in Hawaii, Trump said, "That?s none of your business right now. We?re going to see what happens."
Can hardly wait to see the Donald's tax returns...

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Can hardly wait to see the Donald's tax returns...

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I agree, then the Trump Taxers will shut up about Trump not paying taxes since 1992.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:06 PM   #109
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I agree, then the Trump Taxers will shut up about Trump not paying taxes since 1992.
Obama can raise his taxes and make everyone feel like he did something, but the way the taxes are regulated, he still won't pay anything
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Obama was required and did produce a valid birth certificate [COLOR="Yellow"]as given by the state of
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Ummm like why did it take him so long to produce it to the American tax paying people?
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Ummm like why did it take him so long to produce it to the American tax paying people?
good forgery take time? LMAO <sarcasm>
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I couldn't help but notice that there is no raised state seal anywhere on that document that would still be visible even if scanned - cropped on purpose perhaps?

That thing looks like it was printed on the back of someone's paycheck.
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Thank fuck there's no such thing as, "Certificate of Religion", because then we'd have to listen to everyone go off about how Obama is secretly a Muslim.
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That should shut some of the braindead birther's mouths...for a while.

I wonder how long it will take before they start claiming it's a forgery?
How can it possibly be real if the real one was released 2 years ago already?
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How can it possibly be real if the real one was released 2 years ago already?
thats because this is the official real one, there's a difference, I think? LMAO
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Now The Donlad has opened a can of worms. Now he wants to see Obama's college records. Wonder if Queen Sarah is thinking "oh shit"
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thats because this is the official real one, there's a difference, I think? LMAO
So the last real official one was not real after all but this one is supposed to be real?
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So the last real official one was not real after all but this one is supposed to be real?
um sure, ok, that's it
I don't understand what they are doing, all I know is that this one is a copy with signatures on it with no stamp as I can see.

According to the law, once you become president, your past is top secret, no one claims his mother was not a US citizen, so waste time on this?
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um sure, ok, that's it
I don't understand what they are doing, all I know is that this one is a copy with signatures on it with no stamp as I can see.

According to the law, once you become president, your past is top secret, no one claims his mother was not a US citizen, so waste time on this?
Well...
We know he was a citizen in Indonesia with the legal name of Suharto also we know you could only go to school in Indonesia those years if you were legal Indonesian and thus we know he gave up his USA citizen to become Indonesian citizen where he was adopted.
Also we know that he had a third name when he was teaching in Kenya.

Seems like there is plenty of proof that obama is not a united states citizen and thus all the laws he is making are illegal.


Did you know his mom and his dad where working for the cia yet?
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Well...
We know he was a citizen in Indonesia with the legal name of Suharto also we know you could only go to school in Indonesia those years if you were legal Indonesian and thus we know he gave up his USA citizen to become Indonesian citizen where he was adopted.
Also we know that he had a third name when he was teaching in Kenya.

Seems like there is plenty of proof that Obama is not a united states citizen and thus all the laws he is making are illegal.


Did you know his mom and his dad where working for the cia yet?
Yeah there is a lot of theories out there, I look at it this way, they did the same thing to Clinton and he blew a fuse and attacked Iraq on the day they voted to impeach him
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This shit is still doing exactly what it was meant to do: keep you all distracted from things that actually matter.
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Was it found behind a file cabinet in the basement?
If it was found up your ass you'd know where it was found.
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Thank fuck there's no such thing as, "Certificate of Religion", because then we'd have to listen to everyone go off about how Obama is secretly a Muslim.
Is he one of those atheist muslims Newt was warning us about?
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why did it take them sooooooooooooooo long?
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why did it take them sooooooooooooooo long?
It didn't... His birth cert has been out for I don't know how long... this is the long form that no other President has ever needed to show, but he was nice enough to show it.
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actually he didn't, 96% of black voters voted for Obama
90% of black voters voted for Gore and Kerry.
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It didn't... His birth cert has been out for I don't know how long... this is the long form that no other President has ever needed to show, but he was nice enough to show it.
Where is McCain long form? Did they have long form birth certifdicates in PANAMA where he was born.
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Yes, because for some reason poor people actually believe that democrats give a fuck about them. lol
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Yes, because for some reason poor people actually believe that democrats give a fuck about them. lol
people that don't pay attention
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Long form? Says copy right on it!
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Ummm like why did it take him so long to produce it to the American tax paying people?
Ummm like he did release his official Hawaii birth certificate to the tax
paying people before he took office.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

Right click that image on that link and look at the image info.

It says "Modified: Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:19:50 PM"


That fact that you don't accept his official Hawaii birth certificate means jack shit.
Who da fuck are you?

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Long form? Says copy right on it!
Yeah, it's a copy of the long form... none of us have our org birth cert, they're all copies.
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lmao
If other people don't feel this way then why are people complaining to Obama about
unemployment, gas prices and the mortgage/foreclosure crisis?

Huh? Huh? huh? huh?

Huh? Huh? huh? huh?


Huh? Huh? huh? huh?


Huh? Huh? huh? huh?


Huh? Huh? huh? huh?



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Yeah, it's a copy of the long form... none of us have our org birth cert, they're all copies.
But can't Obama provide a piece of the original placenta?

Come on, you know he saved it.

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Yeah, it's a copy of the long form... none of us have our org birth cert, they're all copies.
I have mine from the hospital with my feet prints on it and I'm older that Barry. It's no copy!

I have a copy of the official one the state uses
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I have mine from the hospital with my feet prints on it and I'm older that Barry. It's no copy!

I have a copy of the official one the state uses
Of course you have your's; because there was no place to store it since you were
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I have mine from the hospital with my feet prints on it and I'm older that Barry. It's no copy!

I have a copy of the official one the state uses
It is a copy, even if it doesn't look like it... otherwise you couldn't request a copy of your original, and they couldn't stamp it and cert that it's real without the real one to copy.

Edit: You can request a new cert (with proof of course) from the local Courthouse, Hospital or State if they can not find the record. One of the 3 appear to be the keepers of certs for those of us born normally.
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Funny to watch the new round of spinning and backpedaling by the rightwing birther nutjobs...

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Obama wanted to become president of Indonesia.... Now tell me how that even is possible if he were NOT an Indonesian citizen?

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Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama's kindergarten teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. "He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,'" the teacher said.
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Obvious forgery.
Hope not.
It'd be a shame if he was not 2257 compliant! LOL!
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Obama wanted to become president of Indonesia.... Now tell me how that even is possible if he were NOT an Indonesian citizen?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16813267/
Your posts slightly confuse me... are you trying to be sarcastic? I ask because it's like you're trying to bash him, but then you post this stuff which totally supports that he's good to go... just kinda hard to tell which direction you're coming from.
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Widow of Obama 'birth doctor' advises Hawaii Health Dept. Breaking News
Deceased physician's name appears on document released today
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Document moved to more secure location months ago
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Document cites hospital, includes signature of attending doctor
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Your posts slightly confuse me... are you trying to be sarcastic? I ask because it's like you're trying to bash him, but then you post this stuff which totally supports that he's good to go... just kinda hard to tell which direction you're coming from.
Did you check his name?

He wanted to be president of Indonesia not from United states lol.
as a muslim by the way and now he claims to be a christian if he is in usa.

He seems to change his name and religion wherever he comes.

Not bashing just saying it all seems very secretive for someone who was gonna run "the most transparent government ever"
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Of course you have your's; because there was no place to store it since you were
born here :

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It is a copy, even if it doesn't look like it... otherwise you couldn't request a copy of your original, and they couldn't stamp it and cert that it's real without the real one to copy.

Edit: You can request a new cert (with proof of course) from the local Courthouse, Hospital or State if they can not find the record. One of the 3 appear to be the keepers of certs for those of us born normally.
No, please read before making statements, the one from the HOSPITAL is original, you can tell that from the feet prints.

the one from the state is a copy and I just got a second copy of that to get a new passport.

The signature on the cert for my doctor is the grandfather of a good friend of mine
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think about that
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