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Old 04-27-2011, 06:07 AM   #1
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Obama's Birth Certificate Officially Released

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...pt=T1&iref=BN1

That should shut some of the braindead birther's mouths...for a while.

I wonder how long it will take before they start claiming it's a forgery?
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I love the headline on faux news: "White House Releases What it Says Is President Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate"

haha "what it says" implying it might not be legitimate
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Obvious forgery.
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Clearly it's fake.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...pt=T1&iref=BN1

That should shut some of the braindead birther's mouths...for a while.

I wonder how long it will take before they start claiming it's a forgery?
They will start claiming its a forgery immediately, there is no amount of "so called evidence" that will satisfy these people.
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Great, but this doesnt make him a better president
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Good, now the focus can go back to the real issues: Obama's war crimes and treasonous acts in Libya.
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Was it found behind a file cabinet in the basement?
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Good, now the focus can go back to the real issues: Obama's war crimes and treasonous acts in Libya.
Based on our own laws, those aren't war crimes or treason... Clinton I think it was approved our actions with the U.N. - Obama 'already' has Congress approval, being that it was them that put us into Nato.
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Based on our own laws, those aren't war crimes or treason... Clinton I think it was approved our actions with the U.N. - Obama 'already' has Congress approval, being that it was them that put us into Nato.
Really? Training and arming terrorist groups, including al Qaeda, is not a war crime and treason?


Maybe you should look up "war of aggression" war crimes. Which NATO is also guilty of in Libya.
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Really? Training and arming terrorist groups, including al Qaeda, is not a war crime and treason?


Maybe you should look up "war of aggression" war crimes. Which NATO is also guilty of in Libya.
They don't know if they're terrorists... I'm sure some are, but they aren't organized, they aren't funded, clearly Al Qaeda grasp is weak when it's own organizational practices can't be seen.

War of aggression would be if America 'invaded' them for no reason. That's not what happened and we had a valid reason.

The U.N Charter, first one, first line.. "To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace"

What they're doing is legal... we don't have to like it, I don't like it... but it is legal.
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Great, but this doesnt make him a better president
Better than what?

a) Better than the last one and all of the current Republican contenders for the job?
b) Or better as in actually being a good president?

I'd say he's got "a" nailed hands down, but I'm not so sure about "b".

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The birthers will still find something to complain about because it was never about
the birth certificate anyway.

It's all about them not wanting Obama to be president and they just hide that fact behind
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Really? Training and arming terrorist groups, including al Qaeda, is not a war crime and treason?
Well, considering the CIA has been training and arming al-Qaeda for decades, obviously not.
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They don't know if they're terrorists... I'm sure some are, but they aren't organized, they aren't funded, clearly Al Qaeda grasp is weak when it's own organizational practices can't be seen.

War of aggression would be if America 'invaded' them for no reason. That's not what happened and we had a valid reason.

The U.N Charter, first one, first line.. "To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace"

What they're doing is legal... we don't have to like it, I don't like it... but it is legal.
Nato charter does not give them the right to start wars of aggression. It is what they are doing is prejudicial justice. There are dictators killing innocent people everyday. Why isn't Nato attacking them? The only reason was to take control of Libyan oil and set up a central bank.

Really "they dont know" and are "weak"? What do you call a group of people trying to over throw a country?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...bels-in-libya/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ief-fears.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_842009.html

That my friend is treason. Maybe we should not arm, fund, train, back and fight for people who are trying to kill us and that we are at war with. Man Obama, Clinton and our intelligence must be stupid? I hope not!
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It's all about them not wanting Obama to be president and they just hide that fact behind
these type of allegations.

i'm glad we finally had a black president. It proves to many it's the system not the color of our leadership. Simplistic maybe but true.
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Well, considering the CIA has been training and arming al-Qaeda for decades, obviously not.
I know right. Sad but true.
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Nato charter does not give them the right to start wars of aggression. It is what they are doing is prejudicial justice. There are dictators killing innocent people everyday. Why isn't Nato attacking them? The only reason was to take control of Libyan oil and set up a central bank.

Really "they dont know" and are "weak"? What do you call a group of people trying to over throw a country?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...bels-in-libya/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ief-fears.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_842009.html

That my friend is treason. Maybe we should not arm, fund, train, back and fight for people who are trying to kill us and that we are at war with. Man Obama, Clinton and our inelegance must be stupid? I hope not!
They are 'keeping the peace' that's all that is needed to make it legal. It's in the first line of the charter.

I call them Rebels... and I'm sure a few bad apples are mixed in but that doesn't mean the people throwing the Country over are terrorists.


Treason is when you betray your Country by trying to take over the Gov at some level No part of what is going on can even be twisted into treason.
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They are 'keeping the peace' that's all that is needed to make it legal. It's in the first line of the charter.

I call them Rebels... and I'm sure a few bad apples are mixed in but that doesn't mean the people throwing the Country over are terrorists.


Treason is when you betray your Country by trying to take over the Gov at some level No part of what is going on can even be twisted into treason.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#United_States

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#United_States



Is giving them weapons, training them, funding them and bombing their enemy consider "aid and comfort?"
Okay, so we're not out training, funding, building and supplying Libya with weapons... that's our enemy in this fight.


Having AlQ within the rebels does not mean you're funding/training terrorists groups or them. That's about like saying we sold weapons to Germany and a few ended up in the hands of bad people... it's going to happen but it's not like we're out giving the other side weapons to kill our own people with.
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posting his bc now seems really really strange . I didn't think he was lying before, but now i do lol

anything can be forged, why he waited so long and then posted it because trump asked seems strange.
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Then round one goes to The Donald.. In three years no one else was able to entice Obama to put the issue to bed.
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Don't give Trump the credit for this. This is because of several states attempting to pass birther laws.
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It's a damned if you do - damned if you don't.

No matter what the president does, there will always be haters and those who disagree only until their party is in power, then suddenly they'll start defending their president saying, "by speaking out against our party and president you're committing treason".
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Then round one goes to The Donald.. In three years no one else was able to entice Obama to put the issue to bed.
Nobody else was a big enough ass and needed to STFU as bad as Trump.



The guy is an ass and shutting him up is a pleasure that's hard to resist.


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Nobody else was a big enough ass and needed to STFU as bad as Trump.



The guy is an ass and shutting him up is a pleasure that's hard to resist.


Obama pimp slapped that bitch with a piece of paper.

The other side of the coin says that the President owes Donald Trump nothing. So Obama ended up caving to Trump and giving him credibility.
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I was just watching the Donald Trump interview on this and that guy is a fucking moron. He was back tracking like a mother fucker and was pretty sad to watch.

That asshole is nothing but a self promoting ass face.
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anything can be forged, why he waited so long and then posted it because trump asked seems strange.
Because election season is coming up. That, and he probably got annoyed with Trump being a jackass.
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it's going to happen but it's not like we're out giving the other side weapons to kill our own people with.
Right. The groups the US trains & arms usually seem to wait 5 - 10 years before they start killing Americans.

Seems that's how it works at least.
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LOL. The difference between terrorists and rebels is what your side your on.
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LOL. The difference between terrorists and rebels is what your side your on.
True lol . I wonder if when Obama gave birth certificate to them to show if he told them tell Donald to pound this up his ass. lol
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I know, we are all racist, LMAO
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We need to see his official "Earth Certificate" to finally put all of this to rest...

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The other side of the coin says that the President owes Donald Trump nothing. So Obama ended up caving to Trump and giving him credibility.
There is only one side to the coin bro.... an asshole got bitch slapped and shown
to be the fool that he is.

This issue was only an issue to idiots that didn't accept the official document of
birth provided by Hawaii to ALL people born there.

And the reason they didn't accept it is because they are idiots and can't stand
that Obama got elected.

The nastiness and disrespect people have shown towards Obama only makes me
more determine to vote for him because I don't want people to "get away with"
these ridiculous lies and out right slander.

Obama has shown much restraint because I would sue the shit out of someone for
claiming that I was not born in the USA. That's slander, plain and simple.
I would have the person who posted a fake birth certificate from Kenya arrested
for fraud and try to get them tried for treason.

My biggest complaint about Obama is that he has been way to nice to people who
are obviously his enemy for life. I think he should chew some of these liars/slanderers
up and spit them into a trash can.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:35 AM   #43
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I know, we are all racist, LMAO
Nice race card.

You played it so good.

I mean, there is not even one hint of race in my post, but you pulled it right out of your ass.

So if the shoe fits, and you did in fact try it on all by yourself, then wear it.

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In a statement after Obama spoke, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus called the issue a distraction ? and yet blamed Obama for playing campaign politics by addressing it.

"The president ought to spend his time getting serious about repairing our economy," Priebus said. "Unfortunately his campaign politics and talk about birth certificates is distracting him from our number one priority ? our economy."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42779923...s-white_house/

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Nice race card.

You played it so good.

I mean, there is not even one hint of race in my post, but you pulled it right out of your ass.

So if the shoe fits, and you did in fact try it on all by yourself, then wear it.

It's just thats your answer to those that just hate what he does and you don't have an answer for it, then you call us a racist.

I could give a shit if he was purple, I don't like him because he's an idiot and can't run this country and started yet another fucking war!

As far as his birth cert, who gives a rats ass, his mother is a citizen, end of story
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Okay, so we're not out training, funding, building and supplying Libya with weapons... that's our enemy in this fight.


Having AlQ within the rebels does not mean you're funding/training terrorists groups or them. That's about like saying we sold weapons to Germany and a few ended up in the hands of bad people... it's going to happen but it's not like we're out giving the other side weapons to kill our own people with.
Um yes it does and yes we are. It is like logic is failing you. If Al Qaeda has backed, supported, and is sending in their troops to help the rebels, then we fund, train and give the rebels weapons then we are directly helping AlQ. Period, end of story, there is no way around it.

The bigger question is if we know that AlQ is with the rebels, siding with them and are allies why the fuck are we helping the rebels?
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I have always wanted to see his birth cert. I am glad he did show it.

He is kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Some hardcore right birthers will claim it is fake.
It does suck he waited so long to release it, makes him look silly. On the other hand, he was being called out by Trump, and this was the biggest thing Trump has on Obama.

I say +1 for Obama (and I do not like him)
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There is only one side to the coin bro.... an asshole got bitch slapped and shown
to be the fool that he is.

This issue was only an issue to idiots that didn't accept the official document of
birth provided by Hawaii to ALL people born there.

And the reason they didn't accept it is because they are idiots and can't stand
that Obama got elected.

The nastiness and disrespect people have shown towards Obama only makes me
more determine to vote for him because I don't want people to "get away with"
these ridiculous lies and out right slander.

Obama has shown much restraint because I would sue the shit out of someone for
claiming that I was not born in the USA. That's slander, plain and simple.
I would have the person who posted a fake birth certificate from Kenya arrested
for fraud and try to get them tried for treason.

My biggest complaint about Obama is that he has been way to nice to people who
are obviously his enemy for life. I think he should chew some of these liars/slanderers
up and spit them into a trash can.
You are far to emotional to have a rational dialog about Obama. The spin you put on things clearly don't speak for the opinions of at least half of the nation. That half doesn't like him at all. They don't like his policies or his agenda. There are clearly some who don't like the color of his skin. There is at least 14% of the population that didn't like the color of GWB's skin either. And they didn't vote for him and it was well documented they had no issues on showing his office of presidency tremendous disrespect.

As far as his birth certificate, it was a simple thing to release it on day one of his administration. Very simple actually. He fueled the fire for over 2 years by being secretive.

Personally, I never cared one way or another where he was born. His lack of leadership,his socialist agenda are the big issues in my mind. The man needs to earn the respect of the population. He earned 52% 3 years ago. The numbers today aren't anywhere near that favorable. Unless he gets lucky in the next year and the economy improves he will be only a distant memory. And not a good one.
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It's just thats your answer to those that just hate what he does and you don't have an answer for it, then you call us a racist.

I could give a shit if he was purple, I don't like him because he's an idiot and can't run this country and started yet another fucking war!

As far as his birth cert, who gives a rats ass, his mother is a citizen, end of story
Dude STFU. I haven't called you a racist for hating Obama.

Stop making shit up.



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PS: WTF is this "us" shit? Who da fuck is "us"?
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then you call us a racist.
Are you trying to "rally" an "us" against my post?

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