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V_RocKs · 05-06-2011, 02:15 PM

Sure, some guys find Spankwire by listening to Howard Stern, but the majority of guys find it by searching for what they want...

Case in point:

Guys wants College Fuck Fest. He Google's College Fuck Fest. He gets:

pornhub, tube8, spankwire, xnxx among other tubes that are illegally using the video to sell everything BUT the videos web site: CollegeFuckFest.com.

So most sponsors send out removal requests to the above mentioned sites and those sites possibly take down the offending videos, but then put up 5 more...

You should be sending your DMCA to GOOGLE, MSN and YAHOO! They WILL block that result and over a period of time and a multitude of complaints, you can then SUE G/M/Y and a judge will more than likely tell them to develop algorithms to deny listings to illegally hosted videos.

Then and only then will people start surfing YOUR porn and paying for it!

slapass · 05-06-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Sure, some guys find Spankwire by listening to Howard Stern, but the majority of guys find it by searching for what they want...

Case in point:

Guys wants College Fuck Fest. He Google's College Fuck Fest. He gets:

pornhub, tube8, spankwire, xnxx among other tubes that are illegally using the video to sell everything BUT the videos web site: CollegeFuckFest.com.

So most sponsors send out removal requests to the above mentioned sites and those sites possibly take down the offending videos, but then put up 5 more...

You should be sending your DMCA to GOOGLE, MSN and YAHOO! They WILL block that result and over a period of time and a multitude of complaints, you can then SUE G/M/Y and a judge will more than likely tell them to develop algorithms to deny listings to illegally hosted videos.

Then and only then will people start surfing YOUR porn and paying for it!

I also noticed that most solo girls or GGW are off the tubes. There must be aggressive tactics that are used to control their content.

TheSenator · 05-06-2011, 04:21 PM

Google "Got Gisele" result 4th....

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1917289613

Uploaded by LiveCamCash which then goes to

http://www.pornhub.com/users/livecamcash

Jakez · 05-06-2011, 05:00 PM

I see collegefuckfest.com as the first 4 results (1 ad). But yeah I see your point.

Will Google really remove those results if you send a DMCA? Didn't know that.

DWB · 05-06-2011, 05:05 PM

I don't even know why people bother trying to do the right or legal thing anymore. Just fucking steal your content, fuck everyone over that you can and make as much money as you can. People will still buy you drinks and the shows and call you bro.

goldassets · 05-06-2011, 05:08 PM

i just sent a dmca to myself

xxxjay · 05-06-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Sure, some guys find Spankwire by listening to Howard Stern, but the majority of guys find it by searching for what they want...

Case in point:

Guys wants College Fuck Fest. He Google's College Fuck Fest. He gets:

pornhub, tube8, spankwire, xnxx among other tubes that are illegally using the video to sell everything BUT the videos web site: CollegeFuckFest.com.

So most sponsors send out removal requests to the above mentioned sites and those sites possibly take down the offending videos, but then put up 5 more...

You should be sending your DMCA to GOOGLE, MSN and YAHOO! They WILL block that result and over a period of time and a multitude of complaints, you can then SUE G/M/Y and a judge will more than likely tell them to develop algorithms to deny listings to illegally hosted videos.

Then and only then will people start surfing YOUR porn and paying for it!

SteveLightspeed · 05-06-2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

I don't even know why people bother trying to do the right or legal thing anymore. Just fucking steal your content, fuck everyone over that you can and make as much money as you can. People will still buy you drinks and the shows and call you bro.

+1

Robbie · 05-06-2011, 05:32 PM

Here's the problem with going after the google results...
First off, you have to LEAVE the offending video up on the pirate site so Google can confirm it's there. So while you wait on google...your shit is being seen by millions.

Then once google takes it down...THEN you DMCA the pirate site.

I prefer to go after the pirate site itself. Then the link is dead. And it soon drops off of Google anyway.

That has been what RYC has been doing since the beginning with our stuff and it works like a charm. New stuff shows up on Google every week on the first page...and soon it is gone. Of course then it's replaced by another site with our shit...but that soon is gone too. Just over and over.

Point is there is no need to continuously go after the Google links. The ones we go after are the ones we CAN'T get DMCA'd down from a pirate site like TPB
Other than that? Just get them off the pirate site and the link will drop off google organically.

merina0803 · 05-06-2011, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Google "Got Gisele" result 4th....

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1917289613

Uploaded by LiveCamCash which then goes to

http://www.pornhub.com/users/livecamcash

you are doing it wrong... google "Got Gisele" download

DWB · 05-06-2011, 05:42 PM

I'm starting to feel like a schmuck for paying for and shooting my own content.

Arton · 05-07-2011, 01:48 AM

well you are right but now google don`t give a shit what they have in listing
I hope that will change in near future and all fuckers who steal content will go fuck yourself

onwebcam · 05-07-2011, 01:59 AM

good luck with that.

V_RocKs · 05-07-2011, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Google "Got Gisele" result 4th....

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1917289613

Uploaded by LiveCamCash which then goes to

http://www.pornhub.com/users/livecamcash

That is a strange one... What is the point of putting up teasers? So you get a few type ins here and there?

Agent 488 · 05-07-2011, 07:36 AM

remove your content removes infringing sites from google all the time, as do others.

jigg · 05-07-2011, 07:42 AM

it is true
if you DMCA Google they will remove the listings from the search. Then when someone searches it will show a message at the bottom of the search page saying some results were filtered due to DMCA requests

WarChild · 05-07-2011, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

That is a strange one... What is the point of putting up teasers? So you get a few type ins here and there?

Trust me, it's much more than a "few" type ins here and there.

PornoMonster · 05-07-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merina0803

you are doing it wrong... google "Got Gisele" download

People who google "Got Gisele Download". were NEVER going to pay for porn anyway!

Barefootsies · 05-07-2011, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

I don't even know why people bother trying to do the right or legal thing anymore. Just fucking steal your content, fuck everyone over that you can and make as much money as you can. People will still buy you drinks and the shows and call you bro.

Rochard · 05-07-2011, 09:03 AM

I've always been surprised that no one ever discusses Google picture search. When I want content, I don't go to a sponsor - I use Google picture search. All of the content in the world is out there for free.

seeandsee · 05-07-2011, 09:20 AM

google remove some results, but dont know where to fill request

Barefootsies · 05-07-2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've always been surprised that no one ever discusses Google picture search.

Define "no one".

Norm of Perfect 10 has repeatedly tried to sue Google for years on those grounds and lost.

merina0803 · 05-07-2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

People who google "Got Gisele Download". were NEVER going to pay for porn anyway!

that's what cam site operators hope for anyways right bro?

Roald · 05-07-2011, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

That is a strange one... What is the point of putting up teasers? So you get a few type ins here and there?

Get the name out, get the name out, get the name out, etc

V_RocKs · 05-07-2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Define "no one".

Norm of Perfect 10 has repeatedly tried to sue Google for years on those grounds and lost.

Add in 100 companies and Google will start taking notice.

Agent 488 · 05-07-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Add in 100 companies and Google will start taking notice.

hundreds do already. dmca'ing google has been going on for a very long time.

Agent 488 · 05-07-2011, 12:58 PM

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gideongallery · 05-08-2011, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Sure, some guys find Spankwire by listening to Howard Stern, but the majority of guys find it by searching for what they want...

Case in point:

Guys wants College Fuck Fest. He Google's College Fuck Fest. He gets:

pornhub, tube8, spankwire, xnxx among other tubes that are illegally using the video to sell everything BUT the videos web site: CollegeFuckFest.com.

So most sponsors send out removal requests to the above mentioned sites and those sites possibly take down the offending videos, but then put up 5 more...

You should be sending your DMCA to GOOGLE, MSN and YAHOO! They WILL block that result and over a period of time and a multitude of complaints, you can then SUE G/M/Y and a judge will more than likely tell them to develop algorithms to deny listings to illegally hosted videos.

Then and only then will people start surfing YOUR porn and paying for it!

or those big boys will get pissed and decide it easier to get fair uses like commentary to be extended to cover "this is the coolest (whatever) i have ever seen"

effectively making tube content 100% fair use and just never deal with you again.

It a hell of a lot cheaper to hire one of the lawyers who successfully established fair uses like "timeshifting" to extend an already established fair use like commentary

than it would be to continuously change their algorithms to keep catching "illegally" hosted videos.

05-06-2011, 02:15 PM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	95% of Affiliate programs DMCA the WRONG people... Sure, some guys find Spankwire by listening to Howard Stern, but the majority of guys find it by searching for what they want... Case in point: Guys wants College Fuck Fest. He Google's College Fuck Fest. He gets: pornhub, tube8, spankwire, xnxx among other tubes that are illegally using the video to sell everything BUT the videos web site: CollegeFuckFest.com. So most sponsors send out removal requests to the above mentioned sites and those sites possibly take down the offending videos, but then put up 5 more... You should be sending your DMCA to GOOGLE, MSN and YAHOO! They WILL block that result and over a period of time and a multitude of complaints, you can then SUE G/M/Y and a judge will more than likely tell them to develop algorithms to deny listings to illegally hosted videos. Then and only then will people start surfing YOUR porn and paying for it!

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Here's the problem with going after the google results... First off, you have to LEAVE the offending video up on the pirate site so Google can confirm it's there. So while you wait on google...your shit is being seen by millions. Then once google takes it down...THEN you DMCA the pirate site. I prefer to go after the pirate site itself. Then the link is dead. And it soon drops off of Google anyway. That has been what RYC has been doing since the beginning with our stuff and it works like a charm. New stuff shows up on Google every week on the first page...and soon it is gone. Of course then it's replaced by another site with our shit...but that soon is gone too. Just over and over. Point is there is no need to continuously go after the Google links. The ones we go after are the ones we CAN'T get DMCA'd down from a pirate site like TPB Other than that? Just get them off the pirate site and the link will drop off google organically. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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