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TheSquealer · 05-22-2011, 05:54 PM

100 people who want to tell you "don't try... you can't... the only way you can, is if i'm the one helping you"

12clicks · 05-22-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

there will be always someone with more money than you and always someone smarter and always someone better looking, is a fact

Uh, have you seen me?

harvey · 05-22-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

100 people who want to tell you "don't try... you can't... the only way you can, is if i'm the one helping you"

I was going to answer, but you're so ignorant that it doesn't even worth it, it's just a waste of time. Go ride your unicorn back to your bubble gum world, I have some people to enslave

CaptainHowdy · 05-22-2011, 06:15 PM

This pointless argument still going on??

TheSquealer · 05-22-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

I was going to answer, but you're so ignorant that it doesn't even worth it, it's just a waste of time. Go ride your unicorn back to your bubble gum world, I have some people to enslave

I thought you were going to show all the major players in the biz how to double and triple their conversions/income etc?

Oh yeah... I remember now... no one took you up on your offer because you're a clown.

harvey · 05-22-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I thought you were going to show all the major players in the biz how to double and triple their conversions/income etc?

Oh yeah... I remember now... no one took you up on your offer because you're a clown.

oh no, you're hurting my feelings, please don't, I'm too sensitive!

as for what you're mentioning, not that I owe you an explanation, but 2 companies took the chance: 1 DOUBLED (as in 100% you economy guru!) its income in 7 months and they're still my clients and a pretty neat income source, the other fucked me in the ass and I'm not ashamed of admitting it and with a couple people we're working on something way more ambitious than that. But even if nothing happened, how is my fault that people didn't take a legit offer based on results? It's called offer and demand, but well, guess that's another mystery for the "economy guru".

Now that I think about that, every single thing you say you show there are too many things you ignore about economy, you don't even know the basics. Maybe you should rethink this statement:

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I do have a grasp on economics and macro economics and fully understand that economies grow, wealth grows, opportunities grow, incomes grow and so on

so far it's an objective fact you don't have a clue on the subject. Just sayin'

sorry, I gotta go back to enslave people, it's part of my master plan of world domination

harvey · 05-22-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I thought you were going to show all the major players in the biz how to double and triple their conversions/income etc?

Oh yeah... I remember now... no one took you up on your offer because you're a clown.

almost forgot: since that thread I posted almost 50% of the biggest programs disappeared or re-converted, or got sold or are working at loss or scamming people and webmasters (and already discovered)

But hey, what do I know, I'm just enslaving kids!

cam_girls · 05-22-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You see... i'm not a socialist, i'm not a communist. I'm not a misguided dipshit who think's he's going to save a continent like Africa which clearly cant be saved AND doesnt want to be. The economic sun set on Africa with the departure of colonial rule. Just a simple fact.

Africa is not a lost cause!

Some solar powered desalination plants, some pipelines and irrigation equipment, and a few basic supplies.

the major problem is no clean water for people. Help them with that AND water for crops in the same stroke and they have massive farming potential.

The technological world is far from reaching it's peak, think how primitive things were just 100 or 200 years ago, give things time!

TheSquealer · 05-22-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

almost forgot: since that thread I posted almost 50% of the biggest programs disappeared or re-converted, or got sold or are working at loss or scamming people and webmasters (and already discovered)

But hey, what do I know, I'm just enslaving kids!

There you go again, it was everyone else's fault they didn't/couldn't take you up on your stellar offer to turn their businesses around for them.

It had nothing to do with you at all... nothing.

It had nothing to do with you making bizarre and absurd claims about how you were going to teach all the 7, 8 and 9 figure companies how to make money.

After all, who could doubt you...? I mean, you're a guy selling cheap porn designs. Obviously you can teach Reality Kings, Bang Bros, Pimp Roll et al, about their own business models and double/triple their revenue for them.

TheSquealer · 05-22-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

Africa is not a lost cause!

Some solar powered desalination plants, some pipelines and irrigation equipment, and a few basic supplies.

the major problem is no clean water for people. Help them with that AND water for crops in the same stroke and they have massive farming potential.

The technological world is far from reaching it's peak, think how primitive things were just 100 or 200 years ago, give things time!

Really...? The guy suffering from schizophrenia, who believes the government is broadcasting his thoughts, that he is psychic and that he is the "Adam" as in "Adam and Eve" from the Bible is weighing in on global economic issues?

cam_girls · 05-22-2011, 07:31 PM

funny how you had to switch to an ad hom mid argument there!

mikesinner · 05-22-2011, 07:33 PM

People who blame others for their own failures are always going to be failures.

DamageX · 05-22-2011, 07:37 PM

Regarding the being born rich vs getting rich on your own argument. Probably the best example is China. NONE of the new millionaires and billionaires of China were born rich. They all got rich on their own.

dyna mo · 05-22-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Regarding the being born rich vs getting rich on your own argument. Probably the best example is China. NONE of the new millionaires and billionaires of China were born rich. They all got rich on their own.

link to this info? i'd like to read more about this.

TheSquealer · 05-22-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

funny how you had to switch to an ad hom mid argument there!

As an attorney for a fortune 50 company told me a few months ago... "You can't expect a sane conversation with an insane person... a rational conversation with an irrational person or a reasonable conversation with an unreasonable person."

I think it's very certain that there is no reasonable discourse to be had with someone who is mentally ill and who should be both heavily medicated and under psychiatric care.

DamageX · 05-22-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

link to this info? i'd like to read more about this.

Use your head.

moeloubani · 05-22-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Use your head.

So are you saying you just made that statistic up?

Because it's not only wrong, it's ignorant and you're ignorant for spreading stupid shit like that. Go do some reading and instead of making things up maybe you can base your arguments on facts.

cam_girls · 05-22-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

As an attorney for a fortune 50 company told me a few months ago... "You can't expect a sane conversation with an insane person... a rational conversation with an irrational person or a reasonable conversation with an unreasonable person."

I think it's very certain that there is no reasonable discourse to be had with someone who is mentally ill and who should be both heavily medicated and under psychiatric care.

Well I'm still calling your bullshit and I'm sitting here with a $100,000,000 domain!

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-22-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Regarding the being born rich vs getting rich on your own argument. Probably the best example is China. NONE of the new millionaires and billionaires of China were born rich. They all got rich on their own.

Not smart.

Invent a fake statement then say something stupid to keep the thread going by all means.
I am sure you will be able to find a couple rags to riches stories in China. But you goto realize that a bowl of rice with a little meat on the side was a luxury not so long ago for the Chinese and now the new luxury is a blackmarket Iphone Knock off.

Truth be known though China is still heavily poverty stricken and most regions of it are undeveloped.
Developed regions are nothing more than a slave labor camp paying pennies.

DamageX · 05-22-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

So are you saying you just made that statistic up?

Because it's not only wrong, it's ignorant and you're ignorant for spreading stupid shit like that. Go do some reading and instead of making things up maybe you can base your arguments on facts.

Read up on the cultural revolution and what it did to the rich. China didn't start its way towards a capitalist economy until '78.

But please, if you have sources that disprove my statement, feel free to point me right. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, one can always learn something new.

dyna mo · 05-22-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Use your head.

sure thing. here goes:

there's nothing in the chinese people's gene pool, water, air, pollution, or wok full of broad noodles that make the chinese work smarter not harder than any other country or ethnicity.

the fact that "none" were born rich has nothing to do at all with your claim to "work smart NOT hard." certainly you kow the unique set of circumstances that have been going on in china now for decades.

brain off.

DamageX · 05-22-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

sure thing. here goes:

there's nothing in the chinese people's gene pool, water, air, pollution, or wok full of broad noodles that make the chinese work smarter not harder than any other country or ethnicity.

the fact that "none" were born rich has nothing to do at all with your claim to "work smart NOT hard." certainly you kow the unique set of circumstances that have been going on in china now for decades.

brain off.

I was referring more to the fact that the rich were stripped of most of their belongings during the cultural revolution and the Chinese were all supposed to be middle-class. Of course rural poverty was just as prevalent as today, but that's another discussion.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-22-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

I was referring more to the fact that the rich were stripped of most of their belongings during the cultural revolution and the Chinese were all supposed to be middle-class. Of course rural poverty was just as prevalent as today, but that's another discussion.

That was not a cultural revolution it was basically thugs taking the property and wealth from the "Wealthy" and putting it in there pockets while making a promise to make good on Equality that at the time appeased the masses to pull off the heist.

Here we are today where that promise is clearly not happening nor will ever happen.

China's so called experiment with Capitalism is a joke. It's the same place and the same guys getting rich while they enslave the population to work for pennies.

DamageX · 05-22-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

That was not a cultural revolution

You gotta be shitting me... It wasn't?!?!?

sitesurfer70 · 05-22-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Some certainly are, but not as many as most people think, most are actually self made...
read "Millionaire next door", it's a great book on this topic...

I fucking love the book....After reading it, I base my life towards what the book says.

I no longer give a fuck if people laugh at my $60 Mickey Mouse watch

dyna mo · 05-22-2011, 08:46 PM

i'm not sure it's valid to say most of the wealthy chinese are new money when even the experts state tracking that cash is very difficult. experts also state the rise in wealth is due to a fast growing gdp and real estate, not working smarter not harder.

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According to the latest data, China has 960,000 individuals with personal wealth of 10 million yuan (USD1.5m) – this number has increased by almost 10 per cent compared to 2010. At the same time, China has 60,000 super-rich individuals with 100 million yuan (USD15m) or more, which is nine per cent more than last year. They are considered to be the main luxury consumers and have been nicknamed the “Lion Kings of China”.

For a decade, experts have been observing a tendency for steady growth of the “burgeoning wealthy elite” in the country. Furthermore, not all the funds can be easily investigated. “There is still a great deal of hidden wealth in the Chinese economy,” said Rupert Hoogewerf, the CEO and chief researcher of the Hurun Report. The concept of Chinese wealth can be visualised as an iceberg with a huge part of it hidden under the water. The Hurun experts estimate that only a third of the potential 4,000 Renminbi billionaires in China are mentioned by the Hurun Rich List.

The facilitating factors for the phenomenal growth in the number of Chinese millionaires are, among others, fast-growing GDP and rising property prices.

Hank_Heartland · 05-22-2011, 08:50 PM

There is only one truth in micro and macro economics..."it's who you know not what you know that counts"

Kiopa_Matt · 05-22-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Because the rich are busy making money and the poor are busy bitching about the rich making money.

I hope you don't actually believe that.

mavruda · 05-23-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Ideas and opportunity have more to do with being rich than hard work does.

That thing I get from a book 6 months ago. Everybody has a choice - a choice to do something to make it work, or choice to complain and do nothing.
Of course there's not guarantee that the thing you do will work at all, but better doing something rather than nothing. I also heard : If your job is too routine, make it your hobby - you'll find pleasure of it at least.
Being rich is a choice - do something to make it happen.
Being poor is choice too. It's easy - stop doing anything.

12clicks · 05-23-2011, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sitesurfer70

I no longer give a fuck if people laugh at my $60 Mickey Mouse watch

coming to terms with your station in life is an important thing.

12clicks · 05-23-2011, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

There is only one truth in micro and macro economics..."it's who you know not what you know that counts"

this is generally believed by people who don't know a lot who want to blame it on something else.

TheSquealer · 05-23-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

Well I'm still calling your bullshit and I'm sitting here with a $100,000,000 domain!

Other than a possible cry for help, I have no clue what that means.

DamageX · 05-23-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

I hope you don't actually believe that.

No, I just posted it for shits and giggles.

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