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Barry-xlovecam · 07-02-2011, 12:07 AM

Judge strikes down Alaska law targeting online porn

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A federal judge has struck down as unconstitutional an Alaska law criminalizing the electronic distribution of indecent material to minors. The judge said there’s no reasonable way for people communicating online to know the age of those accessing their communications.

Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/0...#ixzz1QvfSdQos

This ended well but they keep trying ...

Basicaly, in line with the COPA decision

AdultKing · 07-02-2011, 12:29 AM

Pornography is the battleground over which all wars against censorship must be fought, no matter what people think of pornography, once you start to censor porn it becomes easier to censor everything else.

Lamis · 07-02-2011, 12:38 AM

That MILF with glasses is the re-incarnation of ADOLF HITLER...

when you see her wikipedia article, you can see her in military clothes and with weapons.. wtf.. man.. that woman is fucking insane.

why are there so many nazi politicians there in the north?

ThunderBalls · 07-02-2011, 12:42 AM

Vote for more republicans

u-Bob · 07-02-2011, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Pornography is the battleground over which all wars against censorship must be fought, no matter what people think of pornography, once you start to censor porn it becomes easier to censor everything else.

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gideongallery · 07-02-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Pornography is the battleground over which all wars against censorship must be fought, no matter what people think of pornography, once you start to censor porn it becomes easier to censor everything else.

seriously i love the double standard

if i point out that saying this is the greatest dance routine

is free speech.

people like you will try and argue that it not free speech/should be censored in favor of copyright law

yet when a law comes down that does the same thing to your livelihood you come down against it

if you believe free speech should be censored to protect your money

why should it not be censored to prevent young impressionable children from getting access to porn.

BFT3K · 07-02-2011, 06:45 AM

AVS systems like AdultCheck were at the forefront of porn - requiring a cc or checking account in order to PROVE the surfer was at least 18 years of age, before viewing porn.

I don't know how or why that changed, but I do know that ANYONE can now view ANY PORN they want, intentionally, or accidentally, at ANY age - and the proliferation of same, via all of the fucking huge tube sites out there, does nothing to diminish the problem.

If I had a 12 year old daughter I would be very concerned by what she sees online, and how it will effect her life.

Obviously I am playing a bit of devil's advocate here, but you can bet new online porn/obscenity laws will be introduced in the near future.

I hope the .XXX extension does not become the new AVS, but it can certainly happen.

BFT3K · 07-02-2011, 07:29 AM

Joshua G · 07-02-2011, 08:21 AM

We should consider ourselves lucky to have the freedom we have right now.

The only thing that has prevented the government from totally banning porn has been a handful of judges who have struck down laws like COPA. If those judges thought like Anton Scalia, we'd all be fucked.

i think about the idea that someday, someone will push an obscenity case to SCOTUS, & it will be finally overturned. But sadly i see the truth. Its consitutionality is irrelevent. All that matters is whether there are 5 republicans, or 5 democrats on the court at the time of the hearing.

right now, the web is a wild wild west. Pretty soon, the web will cease to be a medium where anyone can speak. Hollywood & the ISPs are going to create a new internet where only the ISPs control what goes over the web. When that happens, only soft porn like playboy will be allowed to stream. extreme porn & pirated content will end up ghettoized on a low bandwidth web unsuitable for viewing on HDTVs. It will be the corporations that fuck us, not the government.

lyno · 07-02-2011, 08:22 AM

Just a funny side note:
http://kotaku.com/5795472/video-game...nt-video-games

So, violence is cool and protected by the constitution,
as long as there are no nude tits in it.

Barry-xlovecam · 07-02-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

AVS systems like AdultCheck were at the forefront of porn - requiring a cc or checking account in order to PROVE the surfer was at least 18 years of age, before viewing porn.

I don't know how or why that changed, but I do know that ANYONE can now view ANY PORN they want, intentionally, or accidentally, at ANY age - and the proliferation of same, via all of the fucking huge tube sites out there, does nothing to diminish the problem.

If I had a 12 year old daughter I would be very concerned by what she sees online, and how it will effect her life.

Obviously I am playing a bit of devil's advocate here, but you can bet new online porn/obscenity laws will be introduced in the near future.

I hope the .XXX extension does not become the new AVS, but it can certainly happen.

"I don't know how or why that changed,"
In the US, the Federal court found in the COPA case that credit cards were not proof of age. You can buy a stored value card (a pre-paid credit card) at retail stores or banks without being over 18 in many cases.
"If I had a 12 year old daughter I would be very concerned by what she sees online, and how it will effect her life."

1.) I don't think anyone would object to any Internet subscriber that is a parent taking some action to restrict their child's viewing of porn sites. Putting you must be over 18 warnings up would be ignored anyway. If you do that it is "politically correct", gives some legal defense (I did try) but in reality is not going to be effective.

2.) However, criminalizing adult "freedom of speech" when it is view by a person that you really cannot ascertain is not a minor is not the answer.
There is nothing wrong in deciding what you or your family members will not view ? there is a problem with deciding what others will be able to see (the courts seem to agree with this interpretation).

Redrob · 07-02-2011, 09:14 AM

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We should consider ourselves lucky to have the freedom we have right now.

The only thing that has prevented the government from totally banning porn has been a handful of judges who have struck down laws like COPA. If those judges thought like Anton Scalia, we'd all be fucked.

And, the efforts of organizations such as the FSC, ACLU, FACT, Media Coalition, EMA, etc.

brassmonkey · 07-02-2011, 09:20 AM

dvd sales will go up there.

BFT3K · 07-02-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

"I don't know how or why that changed,"
In the US, the Federal court found in the COPA case that credit cards were not proof of age. You can buy a stored value card (a pre-paid credit card) at retail stores or banks without being over 18 in many cases.
"If I had a 12 year old daughter I would be very concerned by what she sees online, and how it will effect her life."

1.) I don't think anyone would object to any Internet subscriber that is a parent taking some action to restrict their child's viewing of porn sites. Putting you must be over 18 warnings up would be ignored anyway. If you do that it is "politically correct", gives some legal defense (I did try) but in reality is not going to be effective.

2.) However, criminalizing adult "freedom of speech" when it is view by a person that you really cannot ascertain is not a minor is not the answer.
There is nothing wrong in deciding what you or your family members will not view — there is a problem with deciding what others will be able to see (the courts seem to agree with this interpretation).

Again, just to play devil's advocate...

A parent does not have to tell a 12 year old child that they can't go to the local store and buy liquor, porn, a gun, or cigarettes. The clerk will not sell to them, as it is illegal. Same with a 12 year old trying to enter an R or NC-17 rated movie alone. Not the case online.

Some things are just not appropriate for all ages, period.

The easy fall-back this industry replies with, is that the burden of censorship should fall on the parents. Well, the reality is that kids have friends with computers, kids have mobile devices. As long as porn is just a click away, it will be just a click away for your kids too.

For better or worse, laws and regulations WILL change soon - regarding porn and many other aspects of our lives - like it or not.

Barry-xlovecam · 07-02-2011, 09:47 AM

There is nothing stopping ISPs from offering a Safe Family Internet ...

Why don't they?

Coup · 07-02-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Vote for more republicans

yeah, let's let the free market decide these things.

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	We should consider ourselves lucky to have the freedom we have right now. The only thing that has prevented the government from totally banning porn has been a handful of judges who have struck down laws like COPA. If those judges thought like Anton Scalia, we'd all be fucked. i think about the idea that someday, someone will push an obscenity case to SCOTUS, & it will be finally overturned. But sadly i see the truth. Its consitutionality is irrelevent. All that matters is whether there are 5 republicans, or 5 democrats on the court at the time of the hearing. right now, the web is a wild wild west. Pretty soon, the web will cease to be a medium where anyone can speak. Hollywood & the ISPs are going to create a new internet where only the ISPs control what goes over the web. When that happens, only soft porn like playboy will be allowed to stream. extreme porn & pirated content will end up ghettoized on a low bandwidth web unsuitable for viewing on HDTVs. It will be the corporations that fuck us, not the government.

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