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fris · 07-02-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by garce

Why do you feel the need to increase the font size for every post? Next time, make sure to hit "Caps Lock" before you type.

You chat like a 12 year old Japanese anime fanboy, but you look like an over the hill 50 year old white dude.

because he thinks people will listen to him the louder he speaks.

Tasty1 · 07-02-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

when i see too many people taking pictures at a show..it just makes me worry that i have to go to another site and make sure my face isnt pictured beside some porn sign

not everyone wants to be larry flynt
i think they should restrict the number of people allowed to be photographing at the conventions...to a few very known people

A new standard is starting in Europe
http://business.avn.com/company-news...me-439722.html

alias · 07-02-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

A new standard is starting in Europe
http://business.avn.com/company-news...me-439722.html

"Only recognized photographers like JFK from Fubar Webmasters, the official Webmaster Meeting photographer, and Baddog will be allowed to take pictures."

Posers can fuck right off.

ajrocks · 07-02-2011, 06:12 PM

Douche bag subject line. I'll be sure not to do business with you.

MediaGuy · 07-02-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I do not agree with these statements at all. In truth, there is not just a Bro Club, but several that would be considered "clicks". It's usually fueled for marketing advantages or lack of, networking, client or affiliate loyalty, or conversation starters with potential contacts.

I myself have been subjected to this like many others for whatever reason from people I don't know, never done business with, or even met. The vast majority of time it's from people trying to get some form of recognition from whomever to gain a business or personal edge due to their lack of ability.

As mentioned, I also favor JFK because he was the originator and rarely do you see him take a negative side to anything. What did catch my interest was how NALEM is being ripped apart form a poor business decision to support ICM and the vicious personal attacks that followed from the usual suspects.

People in here never learn because I've seen this happen to many and especially to guy named Donny Long that is still going on to this day. There were aff reps and company owners jumping on that guy because he was odd, new, and rubbed the Bro's the wrong way due to offering a competitive business against their friends interests. Read familiar?

So when you preach- negative attitude and/or resentfulness fueled by failure. is because of your type of click mentality causes it. Sadly, what most fail to understand is their are the few like DL who comeback and do terrible things like hack the records of all the adult talent and release their medical records online.

I'm willing to bet Alex/Nalem has made a large investment in his business and also willing to bet he's done and probably does not even know it. If he was smart he would of shut his mouth and walked away and build a better strategy to come back and fight another day. The only issue I had with Alex, I straight out asked him if he supported ICM or was he just making money. - I couldn't careless who's business model he copies because it's been done by more then a few in here, but he refused to take a stand from an obvious decision. So I have zero sympathy for the guy.

WTS, there are some of us who were also subjected to the same shit who did take a stand, shut their mouth, built a better strategy, got wealthy from it, and now looking for a little payback. I couldn't give a shit about .XXX/ICM or any of these issues because it has zero effect on my life or business. BUT what is does show me is a vulnerability with the usual suspects for a good reason.

I personalty recognize this as opportunity to settle some old scores and most need to thank god ICM can not afford a guy like me because if they could, you'd all be lining up at their door buying .xxx domains or deal with the other option of a 2 year Google domain sandbox. You'd only need to do a few and the rest would move like sheep.

The point is he made a bad decision, but by ignoring him he'll come to his own realization and move on our improve his business model. Now I bet he's gonna want a little payback.

Well, any community has it's cliques...

I don't know Donny Long's story, though I know I should because I remember many times his name appeared. But like I said I stay clear and don't give a fuck for drama threads...

I doubt anyone got bapped because they were just "odd, new, and rubbed the Bro's the wrong way" - this happens to many and any people many and any days of the week here.

I agree, supporting ICM/.XXX is a poor business decision.

Nevertheless, despite the micro-cliques and all that, I still stand by the fact that most of the time people who invect against the "bros" do it out of resentment.

You should give a fuck about ICM/.XXX because if they become what they want to become, you will personally feel the sting and become their victim.

I don't care about what you think your abilities are, and ICM/Lawley can definitely afford you; there's just no way you could sell me, Rochard, Connor and most self-respecting adult webmasters into buying their bullshit.xxx domains.

So far ICM has been moving on and improving their business model and it has been transparently bullshit... maybe they should hire you?

Nah.

:D

2MuchMark · 07-02-2011, 06:43 PM

So here's the TRUTH about JFK...

I met him at one of my very first shows almost 10 years ago. He and his wife have always been good to me good to everyone who works with me despite never buying ads on his site or mags. Tracy, Kedra, Xev and others know he's the tits. He works hard at every show but never tries to sell anything, instead letting the quality of his work speak for him.

He clearly loves what he does which makes others appreciate his work even more. I love to take pictures and for a while was shooting alot of stuff at shows too. What did I do with my photos? I gave them ALL over to him, each time. Not sold, gave. Why? Because he's JFK. Because he's the man. Because I want him to have content. Because I wanted to.

If you're going to start shooting and competing against JFK Nalem then that's perfectly fine and more power to you but Trashing JFK won't win you any new customers.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-02-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

So here's the TRUTH about JFK...

I met him at one of my very first shows almost 10 years ago. He and his wife have always been good to me good to everyone who works with me despite never buying ads on his site or mags. Tracy, Kedra, Xev and others know he's the tits. He works hard at every show but never tries to sell anything, instead letting the quality of his work speak for him.

He clearly loves what he does which makes others appreciate his work even more. I love to take pictures and for a while was shooting alot of stuff at shows too. What did I do with my photos? I gave them ALL over to him, each time. Not sold, gave. Why? Because he's JFK. Because he's the man. Because I want him to have content. Because I wanted to.

If you're going to start shooting and competing against JFK Nalem then that's perfectly fine and more power to you but Trashing JFK won't win you any new customers.

I have a similar experience with Julius, and I agree 100% with your post...

ADG

JFK · 07-02-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

So here's the TRUTH about JFK...

I met him at one of my very first shows almost 10 years ago. He and his wife have always been good to me good to everyone who works with me despite never buying ads on his site or mags. Tracy, Kedra, Xev and others know he's the tits. He works hard at every show but never tries to sell anything, instead letting the quality of his work speak for him.

He clearly loves what he does which makes others appreciate his work even more. I love to take pictures and for a while was shooting alot of stuff at shows too. What did I do with my photos? I gave them ALL over to him, each time. Not sold, gave. Why? Because he's JFK. Because he's the man. Because I want him to have content. Because I wanted to.

If you're going to start shooting and competing against JFK Nalem then that's perfectly fine and more power to you but Trashing JFK won't win you any new customers.

Mark, yours and other contributions are always welcome, I have been in the industry since 99, it's NOT all about the money

baddog · 07-02-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy

This so nails it - fucking hilarious.

And yeah i'm breaking my own rule but it seems nobody read what I wrote and this thread keeps floating back to the fucking top... dammit - just stop posting.

READ:

I am sorry, but perhaps people just not feel that your opinion carried that much weight that they collectively said, "Okay."

Chris · 07-02-2011, 08:32 PM

sad weekend ;/

ottopottomouse · 07-03-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by garce

Why do you feel the need to increase the font size for every post?

It's a helpful way of letting people know to scroll on past without wasting any time

Tjeezers · 07-03-2011, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

I am talking shit here and on the other 30 boards that your fan base decides to post in.

Lets just trade shoes for 1 day

MediaGuy · 07-03-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Hey, resentment is a two way street and that's a fact.

No, I won't

I wouldn't sell you, I'd provide you an option and .xxx being the better. In short, you'd sell yourself kicking and screaming.

Your statement about resentment is ambivalent and can't be applied to what I consider are reasons for the anti-bro knee-jerk.

If .xxx became mandated to force all adult domains to move to the TLD, you would not be affected? That was my contention. I know it would be complex, and impossible to enforce globally, but my statement was simply an "if".

And yeah if you're a great salesman or if you have some sort of leverage you could probably sell me...

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

This is we're we both can agree. I fail to understand what business model they were going for. Honestly, they must have a bigger picture because it's obvious this was not going to work. Or maybe he just might be against .xxx and funded by others in adult to sit on it and make sure it doesn't go anywhere?- Now that would be a brilliant plan.

If they wanted to hire me I'd make it clear, it would be in their best interest that I was the last resort. It would be simple because you people are weak and can't find a unity in anything as Epassporte proved. All it would take is to find and edge on one of you and the rest would fall like dominoes.

Yep you're right - they might have a bigger picture. But is it to legislate .xxx for adult businesses based in the US? Who knows... their stated "motives" are thin and ridiculous, or contradictory.

In another thread I sarcastically offered my services to .XXX as a rep, and suggested we could all take turns taking their money and then going Charlie Sheen on them.

Maybe you're right about that and we can all be thankful for these martyrs...

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I thought the guy from ICM waxed everyone on the panel with a simple and clear pitch. Buy an .XXX domain and you could get extra traffic or simply don't.

Yet another pitch to try to get people to buy into the .xxx - probably the most legitimate or honest they have.

Actually now I think about it, your statement about "us" not being able to find any unity would fly against your assumption that if you found an edge on one of us and managed to "sell" .XXX for them, "the rest would fall like dominoes"...

"Our" strength could actually be that lack of unity or of any formal syndicate structure. You've seen how vociferous people are on the issue of .XXX - I would be willing to bet that if Connor himself became pro-.XXX, he would be eaten alive rather than sway the majority of us to that side.

Just sayin'

:D

MediaGuy · 07-03-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I am sorry, but perhaps people just not feel that your opinion carried that much weight that they collectively said, "Okay."

Yeah that's probably right. Or it was just too long-winded. I guess I was hoping the statements would just carry their own weight... but we keep posting in this damn thread anyway sigh...

:D

baddog · 07-03-2011, 08:50 AM

So many "ifs."

MediaGuy · 07-03-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So many "ifs."

Yep and the whole thing has become even more "iffy" since ICANN has approved the mechanism or whatever to create any TLD we want, apparently. (http://www.networkworld.com/news/200...y-for-new.html)

That should be interesting...

:D

marlboroack · 07-03-2011, 09:01 AM

Nalem, i want that Asian girl. Hook me up. I got your back

iamtam · 07-03-2011, 09:18 AM

quite simply, nalem is the publicity arm of .xxx, the attempt by icm to be part of the community. it sucks, it stinks, and it smacks of blatant bootstrapping by one of the truly slimy and evil companies to hit the porn world in years. if you fall for it and support nalem, you have pretty much decided that you like .xxx too. enjoy the shit you sit in.

CurrentlySober · 07-03-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by iamtam

enjoy the shit you sit in.

I enjoy sitting in shit...

fuzebox · 07-03-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

i think they should restrict the number of people allowed to be photographing at the conventions...to a few very known people

The first show I saw Buster Brown at he was wearing a police department polo shirt... Who goes to a porn convention misrepresenting himself as a cop? I know a couple guys that were pissed off that he tried to take their pics without introducing himself.

BAKO · 07-03-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

when i see too many people taking pictures at a show..it just makes me worry that i have to go to another site and make sure my face isnt pictured beside some porn sign

not everyone wants to be larry flynt
i think they should restrict the number of people allowed to be photographing at the conventions...to a few very known people

NALEM · 07-03-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

Kind of dumb to pick a fight with the most liked guy in the industry.

Anthony · 07-03-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Great points and I wish I had your gift for writing. There are lot's of assumptions, but I guarantee when ICM go's live and you see a sig whore in here flying a Porn.xxx there will be a mad rush to buy them. Why? because the main point was never addressed by the audience/apposing attending. Matter of fact, it proved how out of touch AVN and Ynot was because no legit company is going to buy a well establish company brand on a .XXX. There will be a mad rush to buy Gay.xxx, Pornstar.xxx, Poker.xxx, Tube.xxx generic domains you can't CR/TM.

And this is what get's me with all the tools in here who say fuck XXX etc. Why? because most are following hearsay or they themselves own generic porn/adult.com domains and feel a threat. It has nothing to do with censorship because the legal council of the ICM was head of ACLU and it would defeat the purpose if they were censored because they are a for profit business.

Besides, there are lot's of countries that block porn and I am certain the ICM main focus is to provide an alternative to these countries. Meaning, there primary motive is targeting a new marketed share in countries like the Germany, Australia, etc. and who wouldn't want to tap into that market share?

The only unity you'll get are people/Bro's who got in on porn early and intrenched themselves with great adult.coms who now recognize new opportunities from the vast who did not. Besides, do you honestly think program owners are going to deny traffic/sales from .XXX? - Of course not because they're all fucking whores too.

So if you got into Adult in the last 5 years and wanted to get your share of the pie, now is your chance. Because the louder the industry cries the more it proves there is a opportunity for the new guard to profit.

What get's me is many on this board are crying because porn market is dying due to nothing new hitting the industry. You wanted something new, well you got it and if it challenges your business concept - too fucking bad, welcome to the business world.

Well thought of response. What you say may or may not happen. But the threat of .XXX lobbying to get it the only TLD for all porn sites is real.

That's of course if the sycophants Stuart has around him can stop trying to be the Beta to Stuart's Alpha dog and worked together instead of being a bunch of back stabbing lap dogs.

GTS Mark · 07-03-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

Kind of dumb to pick a fight with the most liked guy in the industry.

Quote for truth!

spazlabz · 07-03-2011, 05:32 PM

First, I wanted to say I like your posts. Whether or not I agree with them is irrelevant, they are thought out and contribute. There was one point you made in here, not a major one but it was the one that caught my attention;

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Matter of fact, it proved how out of touch AVN and Ynot was because no legit company is going to buy a well establish company brand on a .XXX.

I am aware that it is a fraction of the post I am quoting but as I said, it caught my eye.

You are correct, no legit company is going to infringe on any other companies brand. It is silly and very shortsighted for an established company to play pointless little games with domain names.... so that is a non-issue.

However, there are plenty of companies both big and small as well as sniveling little individuals who would not only spot an opportunity to enrich themselves by squatting on a brand, they would probably consider themselves brilliant and witty doing so.

Those bottom-feeders will cause problems and since .XXX is an sTLD I would think they bare some responsibility to, in fact, serve their sponsoring community

Pipecrew · 07-03-2011, 05:49 PM

I don't think JFK has to sweat this guy al all, but honestly man, this 50 post bot or whatever your running isn't helping your image/brand.

Captain Kawaii · 07-03-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

So here's the TRUTH about JFK...

I met him at one of my very first shows almost 10 years ago. He and his wife have always been good to me good to everyone who works with me despite never buying ads on his site or mags. Tracy, Kedra, Xev and others know he's the tits. He works hard at every show but never tries to sell anything, instead letting the quality of his work speak for him.

He clearly loves what he does which makes others appreciate his work even more. I love to take pictures and for a while was shooting alot of stuff at shows too. What did I do with my photos? I gave them ALL over to him, each time. Not sold, gave. Why? Because he's JFK. Because he's the man. Because I want him to have content. Because I wanted to.

If you're going to start shooting and competing against JFK Nalem then that's perfectly fine and more power to you but Trashing JFK won't win you any new customers.

Great post...I am a non advertiser but I love the mag and the vibe they bring to the show. They made my wife and I feel like family from the get go back on 05. They love what they do and they are fun to be around...

NALEM · 07-03-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Absolutely, but this was the main time burning issue of AVN's/YNOTS weak scare tactic. It truly showed how out of touch they were because it happens in everyday internet life. Bottom feeders nail Twitter, Blogger, Facebook, DOTComs, etc daily. All you do is call/email with your doc's and get the account or buy/sue for the domain. It would be the same for ICM accept you forgo the suit process by simply paying a small fee with your doc's.

AVN's/YNOTS argument was so weak and the attendees with their poser comments didn't even represent the real backbone of the Adult internet. The real backbone are the affiliates who bust their ass daily digging for the revenue streams who get ignored by AVN's/YNOTS because we don't fall into their subscription base.

Now, AVN/YNOT are trying to call on everyone for support as their lackeys try to rally against ICM because they feel a threat to their subscribers revenue stream. Where was AVN/YNOT support/reporting on program owners who were fucking affiliates on cross-sales, shitty decline redirects, or even epassporte? Nowhere. Matter of fact, they were doing press releases for them to generate more business.

Now that there's a true viable threat for program owners, AVN/YNOT proved how inexperienced they were dealing with a professional closer. There are millions at stake with people who are well financed trying to make a run on the adult Internet and that panel looked like bumbling idiot especially Tom and the lawyer.

Not only were they outclassed and got their asses handed to them they were not even smart enough to know a panel is used only for a setup. How hard is to understand if ICM felt any real threat, they wouldn't of came? This alone should tell you everything. Not only was AVN/YNOT ill-prepared, ICM then used their platform to pitch services as the rest of the panel attention whored and missed a great blow.

Conner had chance to get the guy on the ropes and missed it when he was pitching the .XXX search engine concept. As ICM preached about how there will be a new unfiltered SE bettering the industry, there should of been a question if ICM was going to allow non-xxx in this all adult search engine? If he would of said yes, why buy and .XXX and if he said no, he would of hung himself. Or at least provide a new angle of attack to exploit his true intentions, grabbing market share.

Meaning, AVN/YNOT and their lackys were played and used to get the word out, free because you don't judge press/exposure for success, you weigh it. The next step is critical because they don't need AVN/YNOT anymore or program owners with their circus clowns they employe to get real traffic generators because that job is finished.

The next step is contacting the true backbone of the internet industry. It won't be long before ICM figures out who the real traffic generating sources are and approach them with a boatload of cash. They might already have their own now with some pretty sweet .XXX domains reserved. As mentioned you only need one to tip and the rest will follow because in the end, the paying surfer couldn't careless if it's a DOT-COM or a DOT-XXX.

Jesus H Christ I have gone back to read several of your posts. When you feel compelled, your thoughts are well expressed. Very few people can articulate their position clearly or be able to disect the situation that is unfolding.

Three

charlie g · 07-04-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

The next step for ICM is contacting the true backbone of the internet industry. It won't be long before ICM figures out who the real traffic generating sources are and approach them with a boatload of cash. They might already have their own now with some pretty sweet .XXX domains reserved. As mentioned you only need one to tip the first and the rest will follow because in the end, the paying surfer couldn't careless if it's a DOT-COM or a DOT-XXX.

I am sensing a youporn.xxx and pornhub.xxx in the next few months. The question is what is the cut?

As far as your "good ole boy network" comments, totally agree. The bros with the premium domains are not happy about the added competition. I think it's pretty common knowledge that having a great .com name doesn't guarantee success tho. A three word .net can generate more traffic/money than SEX.COM or PORN.COM has in the last 10 years (provided it's in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing). I find it hard to believe that this is as big a crowd as you might think.

IMO, you have missed a major reason why some people are against this tld. Should .xxx become the defacto tld for adult entertainment the chances of censorship increase dramatically. You stated that new markets may open up due to the .xxx, and that may be true. But now isp's must sort through the .coms/nets/etc. to censor a site. After the .xxx is adopted, it's as simple as flipping a single switch. The customer base immediately dwindles.

Your points are interesting and spot on. Sometimes an industry has to collapse as times change. The herd still needs thinning I suppose. Either way, the only winners in .xxx will be ICM.

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NALEM · 07-04-2011, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

OMG people did you know there is more than one photographer that covers the adult webmaster gathers? Did you also know there is more than one hosting, billing, webdesign, an affiliate program out there? We have some serious problems. Competition in the marketplace exists.

In the real world which some of you have lost touch with, there are a multitude of options for products and services. In the USA for example: Kinkos, Staples, Office Depot and UPS Store for printing needs. If your hungry for a hamburger there is McDonalds, Burger King, Carls Jr, Rallys, Fat Burger, In and Out, and thousands of other places.

The reality is that most of you do not attend the shows, hence never having the opportunity to meet either myself, or the lead photographer Buster. Btw, everyone loves a little drama, I am the first one to check in at places like the Zoo, to give myself a minutes worth of entertainment and the same news I can find on CNN.

Does the drama bother me personally? Yes and No. The fire which is fueled by posts submitted by friends of JFK, silly trolls, and those that dont know us, only brings awareness of NALEM which results in traffic. Once the site visitor is there, they decide for themselves if they like the user platform or not.

What really saddens me, is that many of you waste your energy on bitching and complaining, and spend way too much time on the boards, instead of focusing on your own business, and what you need to do to make some $. Yes $ can still be made.

Unlike the fools that post private email and chat communications on the boards, or like to air their personal or business problems that they have with others in this industry, I have resisted the urge to divulge the issues that should not exist between JFK and myself.

Below you will find an edited post that JFK decided to publish on another board known as SC. The unedited version can be at post #167 on the SC board at http://www._____________.com/showthr...629#post310629

"A few years ago you were politely told at Cybernet Expo to back off the threats, and that any photos taken at webmaster gatherings, were for the radio station, and that as such we were not intending to compete for your audience or advertisers.

I told you then if you continue the threats, I would open a site to complete in the marketplace. You continued to bully people Julius, and I have kept my promise. I was patient with you for 4+ years.

The only three things we have in common is that we both speak HU, both attend webmaster gatherings, and we both provide photo coverage using a pro camera.

The comparison stops there. NALEM and Fubarwebmasters are worlds apart in the user experience and advertising channels it offers its clients.

People closest to you have already told me about your horrible demeanor. I had assumed it was only towards us. You really are a sorry POS. For 5 years I reached out to shake your hands and say hello everytime we crossed paths. Putting aside your attitude with us, I scored you the box lunch for the golf tournament at TPF, when I saw your golf cart didnt have one. I dont recall you saying thank you, but then again that is not your style.

I can afford to risk NALEM to the winds of change. Can you say that about your site. You will cause your own self destruction, though I wholeheartedly dont wish that upon you, because I know there is room for several photographers, and you must support your family.

Thank you for your explosive moment here Julius. I think I will have my worker repost it to all the boards, just like we do with the event coverage. I will take heat for it, and your friends will help fuel the fire. Time will tell how things play out.

All the best,

Alex

Hello Jules ... lets bump this back to the top. Can we get 5000 views on it? I think so. Karma is a bitch and she is looking for you.

Anthony · 07-04-2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Hello Jules ... lets bump this back to the top. Can we get 5000 views on it? I think so. Karma is a bitch and she is looking for you.

Bumping your own thread = Fail.

JFK is here to stay. Once this project fails, you'll move on to the next thing.

Shey · 07-04-2011, 04:33 AM

WoW, crazy thread, someone needs to hire a PR firm.

JFK, Baddog and Mike B you all have my respect. The rest needs to earn the respect. This is porn we peddle, not exactly the crowd that would feel warm and cozy about some guy just stepping in and starting to take pics.

u-Bob · 07-04-2011, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

A new standard is starting in Europe
http://business.avn.com/company-news...me-439722.html

Jon Oso · 07-04-2011, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shey

WoW, crazy thread, someone needs to hire a PR firm.

JFK, Baddog and Mike B you all have my respect. The rest needs to earn the respect. This is porn we peddle, not exactly the crowd that would feel warm and cozy about some guy just stepping in and starting to take pics.

Yeah I thought it was a little weird at the 2010 Forum when some old dude that wasn't JFK was walking around snapping pictures of people, throwing cards on the tables they were at without saying a word and walking away.

It was even more strange when I checked the website about once a week for an extended period of time and it was "Coming Soon"...

Even at my first show I recognized Baddog and JFK... had no idea who that guy was and figured the site was BS because of the amount of time it took to actually launch.

Tasty1 · 07-04-2011, 05:21 AM

who takes 200 meltdowns?

u-Bob · 07-04-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So many "ifs."

Calculating risks, possible returns etc.... has no place in business?

Are we seeing a new Baddog? what changed since you protested against the .xxx tld in San Fransisco?

Jon Oso · 07-04-2011, 05:27 AM

200 pity parties.

GonZo · 07-04-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

It's hard

Thanks for taking pity

Youre the kind of person
You meet at certain dismal dull affairs.
Center of a crowd, talking much too loud
Running up and down the stairs.
Well, it seems to me that you have seen too much in too few years.
And though youve tried you just can't hide
Your eyes are edged with tears.

You better stop
Look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown.

When you were a child
You were treated kind
But you were never brought up right.
You were always spoiled with a thousand toys
But still you cried all night.
Your mother who neglected you
Owes a million dollars tax.
And your fathers still perfecting ways of making ceiling wax.

You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
Here comes your nilne-teenth nervous breakdown.

Oh, whos to blame, that girls just insane.
Well nothing I do don't seem to work,
It only seems to make matters worse. oh please.

You were still in school
When you had that fool
Who really messed your mind.
And after that you turned your back
On treating people kind.
On our first trip
I tried so hard to rearrange your mind.
But after while I realized you were disarranging mine.

You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown.
Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown
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JFK is this dude the creepy guy that had his camera in everyones face and we almost threw over the fucking rail at Opera?

Kenny B! · 07-04-2011, 07:08 AM

Wow if anything I think ICM is associating themselves with meltdowns, let's hope the trend continues with anyone who deals with them!

I have to say I rarely read the long winded posts/rants but I tool the time to read what JHC had to say and have to say he speaks well and has a lot of valid things to say in the .xxx debate.

Jesus hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance.

As far as the JFK vs Nalem debate... Julius, Mike and Lloyd have been competing in the same space for a while now with no drama or at least no public drama for that matter. The issue isn't another player in the game, it's the player himself.

Nalem you only have yourself to blame for certain shows limiting photo coverage to specific photographers and excluding people like you. And lets face it, if the only thing that sets your site apart is the use of liveshare to display the pics, then you don't have much of a competitive advantage in the first place.

BAKO · 07-04-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GonZo

JFK is this dude the creepy guy that had his camera in everyones face and we almost threw over the fucking rail at Opera?

baddog · 07-04-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

Calculating risks, possible returns etc.... has no place in business?

Are we seeing a new Baddog? what changed since you protested against the .xxx tld in San Fransisco?

I have not changed shit. You are just not smart enough to follow along.

u-Bob · 07-04-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I have not changed shit.

Great to hear that you are still against the .xxx tld. In that case the rumors must be false.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

You are just not smart enough to follow along.

You could have simply answered the question. No need for comments like that.

baddog · 07-04-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

Great to hear that you are still against the .xxx tld. In that case the rumors must be false.

You could have simply answered the question. No need for comments like that.

When someone keeps asking the same stupid questions and making even dumber insinuations they get what they get.

u-Bob · 07-04-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

When someone keeps asking the same stupid questions and making even dumber insinuations they get what they get.

You could have simply answered the question and be done with it. Refusing to answer questions and calling people names for asking those questions, gives the impression that there's more going on. (I'm not saying there is. Just a friendly word of advice... before you take this the wrong way again

)

baddog · 07-04-2011, 12:03 PM

Again, you are not smart enough to follow along . . . hence, simpleton.

CDSmith · 07-04-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Hello Jules ... lets bump this back to the top. Can we get 5000 views on it? I think so. Karma is a bitch and she is looking for you.

Sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here. :D

JFK · 07-04-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Bumping your own thread = Fail.

JFK is here to stay. Once this project fails, you'll move on to the next thing.

just a psycho stalker,with imaginary friends, imagining how I wronged him, trading on my name to get views

07-02-2011, 06:12 PM	#154
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07-02-2011, 06:43 PM	#156
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 47,489	So here's the TRUTH about JFK... I met him at one of my very first shows almost 10 years ago. He and his wife have always been good to me good to everyone who works with me despite never buying ads on his site or mags. Tracy, Kedra, Xev and others know he's the tits. He works hard at every show but never tries to sell anything, instead letting the quality of his work speak for him. He clearly loves what he does which makes others appreciate his work even more. I love to take pictures and for a while was shooting alot of stuff at shows too. What did I do with my photos? I gave them ALL over to him, each time. Not sold, gave. Why? Because he's JFK. Because he's the man. Because I want him to have content. Because I wanted to. If you're going to start shooting and competing against JFK Nalem then that's perfectly fine and more power to you but Trashing JFK won't win you any new customers. __________________ VideoChat Solutions \| Custom Software \| IT Support https://www.2much.net \| https://www.lcntech.com

07-02-2011, 08:32 PM	#160
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07-04-2011, 04:33 AM	#182
Shey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,654	WoW, crazy thread, someone needs to hire a PR firm. JFK, Baddog and Mike B you all have my respect. The rest needs to earn the respect. This is porn we peddle, not exactly the crowd that would feel warm and cozy about some guy just stepping in and starting to take pics. __________________ Regards, Shey <at> datePROFITS.com\| ICQ: 279858568 \| Skype: sheysworld \| Y!M: sheyla702 datePROFITS: Every Niche of ExGF Dating Sites!

07-04-2011, 05:21 AM	#185
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 8,952	who takes 200 meltdowns? __________________ everything is fake

07-03-2011, 08:50 AM	#165
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	So many "ifs."

07-03-2011, 09:01 AM	#167
marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	Nalem, i want that Asian girl. Hook me up. I got your back

07-03-2011, 09:18 AM	#168
iamtam So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,211	quite simply, nalem is the publicity arm of .xxx, the attempt by icm to be part of the community. it sucks, it stinks, and it smacks of blatant bootstrapping by one of the truly slimy and evil companies to hit the porn world in years. if you fall for it and support nalem, you have pretty much decided that you like .xxx too. enjoy the shit you sit in.

07-03-2011, 05:49 PM	#176
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,881	I don't think JFK has to sweat this guy al all, but honestly man, this 50 post bot or whatever your running isn't helping your image/brand.

07-04-2011, 05:27 AM	#187
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07-04-2011, 07:08 AM	#189
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,714	Wow if anything I think ICM is associating themselves with meltdowns, let's hope the trend continues with anyone who deals with them! I have to say I rarely read the long winded posts/rants but I tool the time to read what JHC had to say and have to say he speaks well and has a lot of valid things to say in the .xxx debate. Jesus hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance. As far as the JFK vs Nalem debate... Julius, Mike and Lloyd have been competing in the same space for a while now with no drama or at least no public drama for that matter. The issue isn't another player in the game, it's the player himself. Nalem you only have yourself to blame for certain shows limiting photo coverage to specific photographers and excluding people like you. And lets face it, if the only thing that sets your site apart is the use of liveshare to display the pics, then you don't have much of a competitive advantage in the first place. __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

07-04-2011, 12:03 PM	#195
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Again, you are not smart enough to follow along . . . hence, simpleton.