Female Porn Star Speaks Out About Industry Talent Escorting

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Adult industry performer Mariah Milano released the following OP/ED in light of the recent HIV scare in the adult industry:

OP/ED by Mariah Milano

With the recent HIV scares and the big controversy over cross over talent there is one subject that seems to be constantly ignored that is a very serious double standard.

Porn stars escorting. I have been over this before and taken quite a beating for speaking out but I don?t fucking care. It needs to be said. If a girl goes and fucks some random guy in a hotel room and then continues to show up to sets to shoot how is that not being addressed as high risk for the rest of the industry?

If a girl gets her test on August 20 and fucks strangers in hotel rooms and does movies until September 19 when she tests again how is that not a very serious concern for OSHA and all the people screaming about the recent HIV crisis? It?s almost as if it isn?t really happening.

The reality is there are very few "Porn Stars" anymore. The huge majority are escorts who shoot some movies on the side to keep their per hourrates high. And please try and tell me that these girls who are being flown to Dubai for weekends for $50,000 are using condoms and tests are being provided by sheiks and princes!

That is enough to make me choke with laughter. It?s a very well-known fact that young boys are considered a delicacy in the Arab world and if theyare passed around into the mix with American Porn Stars where is OSHA and all the other harpies on this issue?

I think that the girls who escort should have to be regulated by the industry and that the few of us who actually earn our money by not fucking strangers in hotel rooms she be made aware of who is escorting and who isn?t and when their last test was. Of course this isn?t going to happen because that would be a massive undertaking and would require an organization that would have to be independent and have no bias to the industry or those in it and we all know that will never happen.

So we can all point fingers at the gay side of the industry which I totally agree is fucked up and very scary, but so many with a platform to actually make awareness on this issue are being silent? Why? I agree that studies show that HIV is very hard to pass from a woman to a man, but herpes or a list of other STD?s aren?t and it?s proven that people with STD?s are much more susceptible to HIV and blood-born virus? than those without it.

I will be called a hypocrite and told that fucking on camera is no different than fucking strangers in hotel rooms and all of that but I don?t care. I don?t care if a girl is a whore or not, privately or publicly. I care that they are doing it with strangers and then showing up to set the following day without a test in between and putting my health at risk and the health of everyone else and no one who counts and can do something about it is saying a fucking word.

Well said, Mariah!

ADG

[19teenporn]

I love those big boobs...

[porno jew]

tl;dr ....

[GAMEFINEST]

damn shes hot

[d-null]

hot looking promiscuous young women don't have to necessarily be "escorting" to be having hundreds of partners in a year, just meeting them at clubs or whatever, so her point seems a little prejudiced against "escorts"

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

[drmadcat]

i dont think its just the females problem too what if the guy sleeps with someone

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by d-null

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

LA, Vegas, NY, Miami ... it's common practice for a guy to offer more to fuck without a condom.

[drmadcat]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

LA, Vegas, NY, Miami ... it's common practice for a guy to offer more to fuck without a condom.

true but i think the problem is 90% of the girls will do natural oral with no condom for no extra charge

[anexsia]

porn stars actually speak?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by d-null

hot looking promiscuous young women don't have to necessarily be "escorting" to be having hundreds of partners in a year, just meeting them at clubs or whatever, so her point seems a little prejudiced against "escorts"

plenty of sluts in my town that fuck just about anyone and don't use rubbers and do it for free just because they like sex.

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

And OSHA can't do squat about what happens in other countries

[Makaveli]

What about the male talent she's fucking then taking his load. She doesnt know what whore he was with the night before either. Sounds more like she is a bit jelous she's not getting 50k for her services.

[Phoenix]

she must have a computer installed in the kitchen

[Mutt]

alrighty, i say porn girls should be paid nothing if they're escorting because the companies they shoot for are giving them the exposure they require to summon the high fees they get as 'pornstar' escorts.


sad, US guys and girls sacrificing their lives to fight these assholes meanwhile LA porn whores making 50K to fuck the cretons who finance terrorism.

treasonous jezebels!

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

she must have a computer installed in the kitchen

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by drmadcat

true but i think the problem is 90% of the girls will do natural oral with no condom for no extra charge

Very true. How could I forget the BBBJ? At the rate they charge, it's expected. Now that I think about it, you get that in the strip clubs in this neck of the woods.

[Qbert]

OSHA has nothing to say about porn performers that are also escorts because the latter is an illegal activity and as such they have no jurisdiction. You cannot regulate participant behavior of an activity that is itself illegal. The only enforcement option is arrest and prosecution for prostitution, and that's not a high priority for the police.

Also, when some of the larger escort services are owned and/or operated by the very same people that are the agents for many of these porn performers it's not going to be policed from within the industry either.

Mariah makes a valid point, but she's not the first to mention it. It comes up whenever there's a lengthy discussion of industry STD testing or prevention.

The only people with any practical means of actually enforcing any kind of policy on this topic are the studios and producers that pay the models, and there's still no way to control the escorting between shoots. All they can do is demand a test done within a shorter window.

Get outside of Porn Valley or a major producer and all bets are off anyway, you simply can't herd cats.

[Redrob]

A very complicated situation......for sure.

[Paul Markham]

The odds on a hooker having paid sex without a condom are higher than her having doing the same with a guy she met in a bar. Same goes for guys.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The odds on a hooker having paid sex without a condom are higher than her having doing the same with a guy she met in a bar. Same goes for guys.

Actually hookers and johns use comdoms at a higher rate than regular sluts.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Actually hookers and johns use comdoms at a higher rate than regular sluts.

Agreed.

[cherrylula]

This is exactly why they should legalize prostitution, although that isn't exactly going to get rid of the risk of catching hiv when you fuck random people without a condom. :2cents

But there will always be a loophole.

I guess if you have sex with people you aren't sure don't have the hiv, you might just DIE. lol

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by d-null

hot looking promiscuous young women don't have to necessarily be "escorting" to be having hundreds of partners in a year, just meeting them at clubs or whatever, so her point seems a little prejudiced against "escorts"

but the issue she brings up about those that are flown to other countries is thought provoking to say the least

the 'models' going to Arab countries are tested by the arabs.... those guys are very cautious

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The odds on a hooker having paid sex without a condom are higher than her having doing the same with a guy she met in a bar. Same goes for guys.

I'm pretty skeptical about having sex with someone I just meet in a bar

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Adult industry performer Mariah Milano released the following OP/ED in light of the recent HIV scare in the adult industry:



Well said, Mariah!

ADG

the majority of the agents have issues with models doing escorts. it's interfering with booking the models on shoots

[czarina]

well said! I completely agree with her point. But it's not only the escorting girls, it is talent in general... how about porngirls who go to a bar, pick up a guy and have unprotected sex just because?
how about gay talent who pick up guys at a party and spend a weekend of wild sex, then again unprotected?
Don't tell me it doesn't happen. I've been in this industry for a looooooooooong time and have seen it all

[vsex]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

the majority of the agents have issues with models doing escorts. it's interfering with booking the models on shoots

That's a pretty naive statement. A lot of the agents book the models on both and make commission off both. (or turn them over to the escort agencies for a piece of the action)

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mariah milano

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So we can all point fingers at the gay side of the industry which i totally agree is fucked up and very scary, but so many with a platform to actually make awareness on this issue are being silent? Why?

I will be called a hypocrite and told that fucking on camera is no different than fucking strangers in hotel rooms and all of that but i don?t care.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

the majority of the agents have issues with models doing escorts. it's interfering with booking the models on shoots

The majority of agents are unable to give a girl enough work. Threatened to choose one or the other, the majority of girls will do escorting.

Escorting Pros.
Pays more.
More work for many.
No chance of being found out, unless your Dad books you.
Less time at the job.
Less time on the job.
Less being pounded like a piece of meat.
Less being treated like a piece of meat.
Less being treated like a slut.
Less risk of catching something, Johns don't want to take a disease home either.

Porn Star Pros.
Less chance of disappearing.

[shimmy2]

90% of the girls i film have already been selling their ass and have been doing so for years. with the exception of bbbjs most pro working girls in the US won't bareback

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

90% of the girls i film have already been selling their ass and have been doing so for years. with the exception of bbbjs most pro working girls in the US won't bareback

The girls aren't that stupid.

One minor disease = 2 weeks out of work.

One major disease = Life fucked.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by vsex

That's a pretty naive statement. A lot of the agents book the models on both and make commission off both. (or turn them over to the escort agencies for a piece of the action)

depends which agent you are dealing with after shooting scenes on an almost daily basis for 10+ years I am anything but naive

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by 19teenporn

I love those big boobs...

Makes it hard to concentrate on what she's saying though...

[OneWhoKnows]

Well, a lot of truth is in Mariah's post, sad but true.

I know a case - and no, I absolutely won't reveal names, cities or even countries here - where the scenario Mariah described almost happened. It was not in the US, but another continent and country. However, most of the girls there do exactly the same thing, escorting while they shoot porn. So, one girl was doing escort for one week in a big European city, there she even did anal without condom. She came back to her hometown, and continued shooting, as she still had a valid test and nobody knew about her escorting.

She was then tested positive when the next test was due. And somehow the truth came out pretty quick, and of course the girl's career was over immediately. Fortunately nobody caught it from her. But damn, what a risk. I mean, if they really think they need to do escort, and even without condom, fine. But doing it without any common sense and responsibility for others... Nope. This HAS to change, and it better changes fast. No wonder it gets harder and harder to find new talents, be it male or female. Because yeah, those girls and guys thinking about starting a porn career will probably read those stories (and the ones about nice "friends" posting their porn pictures on FB), too.

[bronco67]

I have never been with, or would be with an escort that didn't demand condom use. Is she assuming that the escort business works bareback?

[MaDalton]

there must be a post from me from 2 or 3 years back where i spoke about a girl that fucked some random guy between the trashbins outside a club and then next week showed up with her 2 or 3 week old (clean) test to shoot.

that's why i would prefer mandatory condoms AND full STD tests

[vsex]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

depends which agent you are dealing with after shooting scenes on an almost daily basis for 10+ years I am anything but naive

Doesn't mean you can't be wrong now and again

[Shey]

I don't get it, why would they put their lives at risk for a few bucks if they won't be around to enjoy it. Or worse, good luck paying for the health care that comes from catching HIV. Top it all off with putting others at risk?!?

[CaptainHowdy]

She is a heroe ... not really.

[Porno Dan]

I have to agree with her that 'escorting' is really starting to ruin the adult industry.

We shot anywhere from 40 to 50 models a month and as a result hear an awful lot of discussions about girls doing 'privates', 'sugar daddies', and 'overnights' etc...

It used to be the hooking side was not something that models openly discussed and surely would not do so in front of other models and a production crew.

I have asked many girls if they use condoms when they do 'calls' and the vast majority say they don't because the guys are 'tested'. When I pry and ask them how they know they say they are told so by the people who run the agency for which they work.

Most (not all) porn stars that escort would be insulted if you called them prostitutes, yet that is what they are.

It is a sad situation.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows

Well, a lot of truth is in Mariah's post, sad but true.

I know a case - and no, I absolutely won't reveal names, cities or even countries here - where the scenario Mariah described almost happened. It was not in the US, but another continent and country. However, most of the girls there do exactly the same thing, escorting while they shoot porn. So, one girl was doing escort for one week in a big European city, there she even did anal without condom. She came back to her hometown, and continued shooting, as she still had a valid test and nobody knew about her escorting.

She was then tested positive when the next test was due. And somehow the truth came out pretty quick, and of course the girl's career was over immediately. Fortunately nobody caught it from her. But damn, what a risk. I mean, if they really think they need to do escort, and even without condom, fine. But doing it without any common sense and responsibility for others... Nope. This HAS to change, and it better changes fast. No wonder it gets harder and harder to find new talents, be it male or female. Because yeah, those girls and guys thinking about starting a porn career will probably read those stories (and the ones about nice "friends" posting their porn pictures on FB), too.

They escort for $1,200+ because a porn shoot pays $700-$900 and the girl has expenses sometimes a flight.
Escort no one knows about
Porn millions see her forever

[BlackCrayon]

porn girls aren't known for having common sense or being responsible.

[Qbert]

Originally Posted by Shey

I don't get it, why would they put their lives at risk for a few bucks if they won't be around to enjoy it. Or worse, good luck paying for the health care that comes from catching HIV. Top it all off with putting others at risk?!?

You're assuming that they've thought this through rationally. That's not the case at all. Most have convinced themselves that the risk is next to nil in order to justify making the money, or they simply ignore the possible consequences.

That would be fine, if they were the only one to suffer the consequences if/when they are wrong. But that decision also effects the other performers they work with and all the performers those people work with.

If all of these people were able to consistently make rational and responsible decisions, many of them would have lucrative careers doing something other than fucking in front of the camera. I'm not saying that all, or even most, that are escorting on the side are incapable of being rational and responsible but the percentage is high enough that any "industry wide" policy dealing with this issue has to assume that the performers will not be truthful about their off set sexual activity.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Shey

I don't get it, why would they put their lives at risk for a few bucks if they won't be around to enjoy it. Or worse, good luck paying for the health care that comes from catching HIV. Top it all off with putting others at risk?!?

meth doesn't grow on trees is our theroy out here in LA

[Robbie]

Man...
There is a lot of ignorance here about the adult industry outside of shooting porn.

First off...girls make 20 times the money as an escort that they would ever make shooting a scene or 2 a week.
It takes them one hour to do a private. Conversely an entire day is lost doing a porn shoot.

For girls with a "name"...they have ALWAYS hooked on the side. Always. This isn't some brand new, never before happened thing.

It's just that now that there is an internet it's becoming more widely known.

And porn stars aren't the only ones. I've been offered NFL cheerleaders as well as mainstream Hollywood actresses (no, none of the ones who are really rich of course...but the mid level stars, yes)

Escorting is the biggest money maker there is. And girls like the one who wrote this article would probably be singing a different tune if not for their boyfriend or husband.

Over the course of the 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, and up to now I was married to three different giant tit feature dancers who worked for Gold Key traveling the world and two porn stars. I've seen the real adult industry from just about every perspective and became friends with many, many girls over the years and learned what goes on.

There is no way in hell you are ever gonna get girls to give up that money. And there's also no way anybody can pay them what they make escorting for rich high rollers to stop and only shoot porn scenes.

The girls you NEED to worry about (if any) would be the ones who end up with meth habits and start fucking street thugs for meth on the side. But the hard working escorts out there aren't doing that. They are tested monthly for their porn shoots, and their rich married customers INSIST on condom use.

Or maybe you could all keep babbling about them being escorts and say goodbye to some of the best girls in the porn side of the adult business.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Shey

I don't get it, why would they put their lives at risk for a few bucks if they won't be around to enjoy it. Or worse, good luck paying for the health care that comes from catching HIV. Top it all off with putting others at risk?!?

Originally Posted by bm bradley

meth doesn't grow on trees is our theory out here in LA

The funny thing is that there is such a thing as a Meth tree:



I guess that I am slightly jaded, or maybe most Asian American girls are raised differently, because I rarely encounter a model that is messed up on drugs, etc. Most of the girls I work with are pretty well-adjusted, and many are college students or grads with professional careers.

I know some of them escort or have escorted on the side, but I am willing to bet that the majority have not and probably would not.

Then again, I work with many amateurs, do a lot of glam/softcore work, and even my hardcore content is not very extreme by today's porn standards (or lack of standards, hehe).

ADG

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I rarely encounter a model that is messed up on drugs, etc. Most of the girls I work with are pretty well-adjusted, and many are college students or grads with professional careers.

You are very lucky. In the last few years I swear that more people have become addicted to prescription drugs than anything I've ever seen in my life. And it doesn't matter how well educated they are or what they are like as human beings.

Once a person gets on pain killers or ambien...it's a freakin' nightmare that makes most "illegal drugs" addiction look like a walk in the park.
And there seems to be an equal percentage of girls in the biz addicted to them as there are in the "general population".
And a person who is pilled out can be one of the most frustrating situations you'll ever find yourself in. It's bad enough when I deal with people like that on a social level (at a nightclub, etc.) but trying to shoot a scene with somebody? A nightmare.

[iamtam]

her point is lost because the industry infection rate for HIV is incredibly low, and mostly centered on gay performers (and cross over performers as a result).

most people take higher risks fucking the person they drunkenly met at a bar last week.

[icymelon]

and she runs her own site. http://tools.mariahxxx.net/index.php thats pretty cool.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

porn girls aren't known for having common sense or being responsible.

say it aint so..............

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You are very lucky. In the last few years I swear that more people have become addicted to prescription drugs than anything I've ever seen in my life. And it doesn't matter how well educated they are or what they are like as human beings.

Once a person gets on pain killers or ambien...it's a freakin' nightmare that makes most "illegal drugs" addiction look like a walk in the park.

And there seems to be an equal percentage of girls in the biz addicted to them as there are in the "general population".

And a person who is pilled out can be one of the most frustrating situations you'll ever find yourself in. It's bad enough when I deal with people like that on a social level (at a nightclub, etc.) but trying to shoot a scene with somebody? A nightmare.

I would think a girl on downers would appear much like a drunk girl, and as such would be easily detectable, and undesirable as a performer.

I am pretty open minded about people using drugs, however, I am concerned about health, addiction, and social issues (crime, violence, etc), associated with drug abuse, and I personally avoid most drugs myself these days. I still attend and have fun at parties, but my party animal days are pretty much in the past; I'm trying to maintain my remaining brain cells for as long as I can, lol - hell, I don't even drink alcohol anymore (sober 6+ months so far).

BTW, I don't consider cannabis a drug in the negative sense - I consume medical cannabis legally.

Years ago I remember that I was supposed to shoot a model that was pretty hot at the time named Jade Hsu, but she was so strung out on something that I passed on her. Other than that, I've only had a few girls flake, which people told me might be due to drug issues (out of hundreds of models) - I didn't really care to find out, since a flake is flake in my book, and they got scratched anyway.

For liability reasons, I do not allow performers to consume drugs or alcohol on my sets. It has nothing to do with being cool (plus guys have enough performance issues as it is without getting drunk dick).

There are too many girls out there who appreciate the work to worry about the ones with problems/attitudes.

ADG