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Old 09-22-2011, 10:50 PM   #51
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:31 PM   #52
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So if the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

.....then exactly how fast is this new speed?
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300 562 839 m / s
or 2.6 thousandths of a percent faster.
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Old 09-23-2011, 12:01 AM   #53
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Cool stuff.. And one more example of how people putting faith in "science" as being written in stone are foolish.. Man knows shit about how things really work and every year some new study comes out that proves some "fact" wrong.
A. No, no it's not. This hasn't even started to be peer reviewed and can't even begin to be accepted as a new "fact" yet.
B. We know an incredible amount about how things "really work" and every year we add yet more knowledge.
C. No one said science is written in stone. Science is knowledge to the best available evidence, which is all we have to go on. There are no alternatives except unsubstantiated guesses or superstition so you'd be stupid not to have faith in it. It's the only reliable and testable framework we have of understanding the world. Science is how you're posting on a forum made of 1's and 0's.

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Old 09-23-2011, 01:12 AM   #54
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Einstein believed speeds could go faster than light and even theorized what would happen if you did travel faster than light. You'd see time go backwards... in an abstract fashion.
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"wow, they broke the speed of light at CERN"

big woop, sometimes when i'm upstairs and i fart my wife already has her gas mask on downstairs.

so yes i am saying my farts have the capability to move faster than the speed of light and actually travel back in time.
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Lol.. you are genius.. You can "travel in time" by airplane, if you take an interconinental flight, its not science, just normal time adjustment across the world as we have the central time in London. Exact same thing would apply to the space if there were any central time set in one of all the planets.

This has nothing to do with physical time travelling, since you are not travelling through history. That would be possible if you traveled back in time in order to the "central time" which is same for everyone in the world ,since we dont know of any other civilisations in space anyway. Central time IS THE SAME FOR ALL PEOPLE NO MATTER HOW FAST AND WHERE YOU TRAVEL

If you traveled to other planets faster than light, the central time will be the same in London for people on the Earth and for you ..no matter what you do :-)))

Its pretty hard to understand for you brain Mr. Einstein, I know..

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At 10,000 times the speed of light you occupy all points in the universe simultaneously
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Jesus Christ, first they invented the Internet now this. What the fuck are they doing over there?
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Some more verification - quantum entanglement

What Einstein Got Wrong About the Speed of Light
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should I be bumping my "I debunked einstein while eating icecream" thread?
Wow! If the results are correct, this news is absolutely HUGE in the world of physics.
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This stuff is really amazing... Who knows what wonders we will discover in the future...
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CERN scientists 'break the speed of light' - Telegraph

should I be bumping my "I debunked einstein while eating icecream" thread?
Is that a news for you? Particles faster than a speed of light are known since 20th century. Google for superbradyon.



Even a usual neutrino may have a speed of +25 ppm (0,0025% faster than a speed of light).
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Is that a news for you? Particles faster than a speed of light are known since 20th century. Google for superbradyon.



Even a usual neutrino may have a speed of +25 ppm (0,0025% faster than a speed of light).
Hey brainiacs, this thread was started 4 fucking years ago.
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Hey brainiacs, this thread was started 4 fucking years ago.
Who cares when exactly it was started? Do you check every thread for the first post date? For real???
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In 100 years, how different will science be with it's thoughts on physical laws?
Would be nice to know.
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Already they're testing the theoretical limits of quantum entanglement for long distance communication. Effectively, once the initial contact is made (still a long way to go) communication could be instantaneous.
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Thanks for pointing that out !

I am surprised how so many SMART people can't get it right actually reading and understanding what Einstein said and wrote.

That discovery does nothing to break the laws of physics.
Einstein used the speed of light as a standard because it traveled at the same speed per wavelength no matter where you are in the universe. He never claimed that it was the fastest thing. That was someone else's injection and I sure wish I could give them a piece of my mind because it has been the source of so much misunderstanding in later science.
Real time travel that everyone likes to think is possible, is not ! Einstein was only using the term as a "perception" from a particular point of view.
Time is the only unchangeable truth in the universe and we have no Physic's method of measuring it. Hence using the speed of light as a universal method of having a reference (like a clock is to you).
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Who cares when exactly it was started? Do you check every thread for the first post date? For real???
Yes. Because I not have shitty Russian education! I can read dates and not post on old thread like an imbecile. Your dad must be upset with a son like you.
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Even a usual neutrino may have a speed of +25 ppm (0,0025% faster than a speed of light).
Children really should understand the difference between theory and successful proof before speaking to adults
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He can't help it, he has shitty Russian education. So glad to not be him.
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Thanks for pointing that out !

I am surprised how so many SMART people can't get it right actually reading and understanding what Einstein said and wrote.

That discovery does nothing to break the laws of physics.
Einstein used the speed of light as a standard because it traveled at the same speed per wavelength no matter where you are in the universe. He never claimed that it was the fastest thing. That was someone else's injection and I sure wish I could give them a piece of my mind because it has been the source of so much misunderstanding in later science.
Real time travel that everyone likes to think is possible, is not ! Einstein was only using the term as a "perception" from a particular point of view.
Time is the only unchangeable truth in the universe and we have no Physic's method of measuring it. Hence using the speed of light as a universal method of having a reference (like a clock is to you).
Yeah, no
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Yes. Because I not have shitty Russian education!
I see. Your parents were too poor to pay for your education. You are an uneducated idiot, right? Actually that's nothing to be proud about.

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I can read dates and not post on old thread like an imbecile.
So that's why you have posted here (a few times in a row)? You just called yourself an imbecile, do you understand that?

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That discovery does nothing to break the laws of physics.
Einstein used the speed of light as a standard because it traveled at the same speed per wavelength no matter where you are in the universe. He never claimed that it was the fastest thing.
Actually he has claimed it. This equation can not be solved when V > C.



At least in real (non-complex) numbers because it will be a square root of a negative number. I believe you have learned it in the school.
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So that's why you have posted here (a few times in a row)? You just called yourself an imbecile, do you understand that?

You're the fucking idiot that responded in a 4 yr old thread without checking the date, муда́к. Don't try to play it off like you're not a potato farmer. We all know.
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You're the fucking idiot that responded in a 4 yr old thread without checking the date, муда́к. Don't try to play it off like you're not a potato farmer. We all know.
You just posted here one more time, clown.



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It is known since nearly 100 years that looking at one object sometimes instantaneously affect another far-away object, due to particles entanglement. This easily also means that, if the 2 entangled particles are one million light years far from each other, and then you "touch" one particle and the other also changes instantaneously, rather than after a million years... this "transfer of something" was way faster than light. Now the question is just about doing proper experiments to verify this, and especially, doing applications.

For example, let's say you can "entangle" two quantum walkie talkie devices, with lots of consummable entangled (paired) particles. If you destroy a particle in device 1 it is gone also in device 2, for example, doing 010101 binary communication effectively, even if consummable. Then you load one device in a rocket and send that (with some patience) outside the solar system, the communication should work instant, rathe than with minutes of delay... earth sun is some 7 seconds light time, not much, but for more far locations this quite matters. But how useful, if it takes billion years to move a satellite at million light years of distance anyway?

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By the way the experiment was published on 24 August 2015:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1508.05949v1.pdf

So it took the media 2 months to figure it
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Already they're testing the theoretical limits of quantum entanglement for long distance communication. Effectively, once the initial contact is made (still a long way to go) communication could be instantaneous.
so basically an ansible..

it's a little creepy how we keep writing about the technologies we are just about to discover
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Actually he has claimed it. This equation can not be solved when V > C.



At least in real (non-complex) numbers because it will be a square root of a negative number. I believe you have learned it in the school.[/QUOTE]
So what does that equation have to do with a particle traveling faster than the speed of light changing the laws of physics (that it does not) ? ...NOTHING
Just because apples don't look like oranges does not mean peaches do.
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maybe if Einstein wasn't hanging out on an adult message board he could have unified gravity with the other forces and that would solve the speed of light limit problem.
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I actually updated the old thread. Strange how science keeps going, and doesn't pay attention to dipshit preferences on adult forums.

I bumped it because I remember us discussing this. An experiment happened recently which purported to inject new information into the discussion. I wanted to discuss it again.

For the record, Einstein did not credit the existence of quantum entanglement, using his famous method of saying some analogous nonsense "spooky action at a distance" to get around his lack of understanding. I am not a fan of Einstein.

Despite the fact that something like quantum entanglement may have been theorized 100 years ago, so were many things that have not been born out. Science verifies postulates. The first real step in this verification took place a few months ago. Hence the bump.
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So what does that equation have to do with a particle traveling faster than the speed of light changing the laws of physics (that it does not) ?
It's about anything in our world that has a mass ;)
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just being able to measure that is amazing. 4 year old thread or not
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem
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It has citations. By all means refute them.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:54 AM   #96
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Einstein was a clueless bastard.
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Theories are proven to be incorrect all the time. Witness, in another field altogether, the debate that raged about Neanderthal admixture. The theories could not be proven with the technology of the 80s and 90s, and for a long time, the incorrect theory, that there was no admixture, gained the upper hand. Then came DNA sequencing, and when it was sufficiently perfected it proved that admixture was a reality, irrefutably. Quantum physics is still very much a field dominated by theory.
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Besides, if Einstein was right how could all the aliens get here?

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