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SilentKnight · 10-08-2011, 01:01 PM

In the spirit of the OP - lightpainting stills in dark studio settings is still a frontier. If you can capture water effects in combination, flares, sparklers, glow-sticks - fuck, throw some pyro-fireworks into the mix...you're on to something.

Picture this - a gorgeous, nekkid model (doin' the nasty for bonus points) at the base of a frozen waterfall - at night - backlit with spots, lightpainted from the front...with other special lighting f/x (flares, whatnot) added in.

This industry fails big-time at thinking outside the box and going the extra mile to get something really unique and special. It's partly why I've given up even posting and conversing on forums in the last while. You regurgitate the same formulated shit over and over...and then moan the blues as to why the industry is dying.

/endrant

ottopottomouse · 10-08-2011, 01:03 PM

Lot of strong opinions in this thread.

Paul Markham · 10-08-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent

How was I shooting ? I shot on Film for about a year... then I got my first digital camera, why what as that got to do with it ? My work on film was shit... my first work on digital was shit... after about 3 years on digital it was ok, after about 7 years it was above average, now it's good at best... your point is ? As I said I aint the one bashing other people and telling them how things should be done...

Not sure the relevance of the pics you posted that I have taken... I dont see anything wrong with them, they do what they say on the tin... for the niche they are from blah blah... What am I suppose to do come back and post pics I have taken that are harder ? Shot plenty of those... again not saying anywhere near the best, but earning me a living thanks (man imagine how much I would earn if I took your advice, i'd be rich !)

Wow I can post pics too... go me !

The shots on the tour are very over exposed. said this to you before. On film you have to have a light meter that registers reflected light. Another failing you have that on film would of trashed the work, a few days after the shoot.

Took me a few minutes to correct this one in PS. Still not right, the original image is too wrong.

Your problem is lighting. Something after 10 years you should of nailed. Reflected light, depth of field and "flat" images. That means lack of depth.

You need to stick your key lights as high as possible. So the light bouncing off the white back wall isn't going into the lens and giving you an out of focus image. What are you using to diffuse the lights? I would use a bowl, this is a fitting that looks like a big bowl with the light going into a smaller bowl. Like this.

Have 2 lights in front of the models, positioned in the corners of the room.

Have a back light to separate them from the wall. Balance all lights for an even lighting, this way it's not "Glam" lighting. There are no highlights. The viewer doesn't notice the lighting.

Shoot with the lights powerful enough to set the camera at F11 to F13. It's safest now with digital to go a 1/3 stop under. NEVER over expose. A picture can be lightened. Bastard to make it darker.

Buy a white or grey board to get the yellow tint out of your pictures. It's not your style as it's not in other pics on the tour.

But a light meter to read the light coming off the lights, if for no other reason than it looks impressive to models as you get the lighting set perfectly. Even if you don't have a clue, it looks good.

If you need a good set of lights, I'm selling ours. Don't see me coming back unless Manwin want an old invalid shooter.

Posing and framing on these shots isn't bad, not good though. A few elementary mistakes that after 10 years you should of cleaned up on.

Models seem a bit posed, but this can happen. DON"T stop and start them while shooting BG or GG. They're fucking each other and you need them getting into each other more and more. The video is next and by then you want them hot.

To judge the whole set, I would need to see the whole set. To judge the video I would need to see the video.

One more small point. When you shoot the "girl sucking a dick, vibrator, lollipop, pussy shot and looking at you. Shes teasing the fuck out of you making you think your cock is next. That's porn.

I did it with words, saying things like "Imagine it's me" "Make me wish it were me." and other stuff. That's how you get this shot.

or

you don't get that with your "Hands off approach." Not talking hands, just the attitude. You need to build up a girls trust that when you say things that need to be said to get her reaction. She knows you're teasing. The last thing I could do is not do up her bra strap and then say what I say to get the shots I needed.

If you want to learn more, give me a pass into your sites and I will appraise your work and give you some tips. They will be in private.

Paul Markham · 10-08-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Pretty sure that's all bought content. Nice lesbian site though. But I don't think he's ever actually shot anything. Or maybe he has. I find it hard to know with the high school "nicknames" on a business board.

He couldn't shoot if his life depended on it. It's cheap bought in crap. Probably cheap DVD stuff. Can't even afford to commission some custom shoots. IMO some looks dated.

Robbie · 10-08-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

I misunderstood wtf fucking willing girls has to do with groping anyone, be it a whore or otherwise, who clearly does not want to be groped, yeah. Can you elighten me and explain what you meant by that then?

And I have a bad day with pretty much everyone who feels it's ok to treat someone how they want, based on their perception of the other person's worth, yeah

Now you're just totally offbase. I never meant anything the way you are trying to paint it.

I'll say it one more time: Everyone is picking on Paul for copping a quick feel on a girl he PAID to shoot. Neither you or I know what their relationship is. I believe Paul said in the beginning that she was a girl he had shot many times before and that they are friends.

As for you and others saying she "clearly" did not want to be groped...again, I'm not a mind reader. But if that was the case then she wouldn't have shown up for the shoot since she had already shot before with Paul and knew his methodology.

Reality is...you're just another keyboard bully who jumped on with the group gang fuck of Paul Markham.

Do I want to watch Paul shoot that girl? No. Do I care whether or not guys like you with no experience get "creeped out" about it? No. Do I care what ANY other shooter or person on this board thinks or does? No.

Having said that...you definitely drew me in and got me to try and "defend" a situation that doesn't require "defending".

As I said before...MOST shooters are friends with models. And when I say "friends"...I don't mean they text or email each other. I mean they go out to dinner and have fun together. (we just went out last night and had dinner with Kayla Kleevage and her husband and hit a few nightclubs here in Vegas afterwards for instance).

You and others in the thread are not taking that into account. Maybe it's your lack of knowledge about how the adult industry is. I don't know and don't care. Just carry on with your bullying of Paul and I hope it makes you feel good.

Jel · 10-08-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

blah blah blah blah blah

You and others in the thread are not taking that into account. Maybe it's your lack of knowledge about how the adult industry is. I don't know and don't care. Just carry on with your bullying of Paul and I hope it makes you feel good.

This girl is uncomfortable, only a complete fucking moron with zero social skills would fail to see that. Maybe it's your lack of knowledge about what personal space is, social interactivity, and acceptable behaviour. I don't know, and I now no longer care. Just carry on with your 'hey look, it's me, Robbie! I am great, you are nothing! mentality. I hope it makes you feel good

Wanker.

Paul Markham · 10-08-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent

And Robs a stud lol... this really is a JOKE thread... with a party of JOKA's in in, fuck it I am probably one of the king jokers to boot...

In the adult industry yes the whole casting couch mentality as existed, yes it probably still exists today... but with my experiences in the UK it isnt there as much...

There are unfortenetly photographers who think all models will fuck for a price... there was a particular idiot (scum of the earth cunt) who used to come to a studio I had, and he boasted about a model we shot, saying he was due to shoot her soon and he would fuck her... I laughed at him, and he told me every girl had a price, it was just a matter with finding out what it was...

Well geeze I guess every one has a price... would I suck a guys cock for $10 Million... Hmmmmmmm

I'll take the 5th I think...

Unfortenetly there are also girls who do double up as escorts as well as models, and to that end some photographers think all girls are the same... this only results in real bad situations... and bad experiences for all...

Just to clarify I am the most red blooded male, I am horny all the fucking time (any one want to chatroulette ?) but I believe in seperating business and pleasure... If people think by not touching girls and sticking my fingers up their cunts makes me somehow stuck up and frigid then so be it... lol

So yes Paul keep trying to deflect what most of us here already know and can see, and those who defend it probably do so as they fall into the same catorgory !

Yes you're right. I spent $400 on the model, $200 to $400 on the film, $150 on make up, was always buying new outfits for the girls. Plus all the lights, some $600 a head. We had a dozen. Plus furniture. so I could fuck the models. This goes for me and all other professionals.

What you don't see is that most professionals have a charm about them that often works. My one is the teasing, flirting joker. Got me into girls knickers more often than a camera did. And cheaper.

The casting couch mentality DOES NOT exist in porn. Well maybe at your end. At my end we spent thousands to get good models looking great to sell for many thousands more. Anything that got in between us and that goal was not ever done. Yes we slept with models, more often we just had sex with them. But NEVER at the expense of the work. It was stupid and a hooker was cheaper.

Messed up shoot -$500 and more.

Hooker $150 max.

I think from this post, you're more scared of doing things than the model is, that makes you come across as creepy. Maybe even desperate.

Robbie · 10-08-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

This girl is uncomfortable, only a complete fucking moron with zero social skills would fail to see that. Maybe it's your lack of knowledge about what personal space is, social interactivity, and acceptable behaviour. I don't know, and I now no longer care. Just carry on with your 'hey look, it's me, Robbie! I am great, you are nothing! mentality. I hope it makes you feel good

Wanker.

Wait a minute! You're right!

You win!

You know all and see all. I have now been schooled not only on porn but also on social skills by "Jel"
Thanks man!

EDIT: Was the word "Wanker" directed at me? lol

Paul Markham · 10-08-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Now you're just totally offbase. I never meant anything the way you are trying to paint it.

I'll say it one more time: Everyone is picking on Paul for copping a quick feel on a girl he PAID to shoot. Neither you or I know what their relationship is. I believe Paul said in the beginning that she was a girl he had shot many times before and that they are friends.

As for you and others saying she "clearly" did not want to be groped...again, I'm not a mind reader. But if that was the case then she wouldn't have shown up for the shoot since she had already shot before with Paul and knew his methodology.

Reality is...you're just another keyboard bully who jumped on with the group gang fuck of Paul Markham.

Do I want to watch Paul shoot that girl? No. Do I care whether or not guys like you with no experience get "creeped out" about it? No. Do I care what ANY other shooter or person on this board thinks or does? No.

Having said that...you definitely drew me in and got me to try and "defend" a situation that doesn't require "defending".

As I said before...MOST shooters are friends with models. And when I say "friends"...I don't mean they text or email each other. I mean they go out to dinner and have fun together. (we just went out last night and had dinner with Kayla Kleevage and her husband and hit a few nightclubs here in Vegas afterwards for instance).

You and others in the thread are not taking that into account. Maybe it's your lack of knowledge about how the adult industry is. I don't know and don't care. Just carry on with your bullying of Paul and I hope it makes you feel good.

I keep telling you, don't argue with him. He's a failure and hates me because I'm not.

If he's talking about Sandra, then he hasn't a fucking clue of our relationship. Looking at the video Reggie shot of us together and the one I shot of her it's pretty clear what our relationship was. That's why I chose her.

The video of Lola is one of an old shooter with a barely 18 timid teen. done for the camera and for promo, it was work. The fact is my wife was shooting it, takes a brave girl to not look embarrassed when her husband is shooting him adjusting her clothing. It was meant to be like that, if it wasn't it wouldn't of been put on Youtube.

You can't win arguing with him. He's moronic.

Actually you can see how terribly upset she was about the video clip here. Shit she looks devastated.

Cherry7 · 10-08-2011, 01:34 PM

Trashy Content did not ask for their content to be reviewed, and yet you did it anyway.

Surprise surprise you know better....

What your comments do reveal is your lack of any real photographic knowledge or creativity. You have been taking the same photograph over and over again, just changing the models.

Why you want to put everyone else down is a question you should ask yourself.

Paul Markham · 10-08-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Trashy Content did not ask for their content to be reviewed, and yet you did it anyway.

Surprise surprise you know better....

What your comments do reveal is your lack of any real photographic knowledge or creativity. You have been taking the same photograph over and over again, just changing the models.

Why you want to put everyone else down is a question you should ask yourself.

I didn't ask Damian to post my video. Or all the trolls to come in with mindless posts.

Yes I've been shooting the same poses for 30 years. Because I sold them.

You should try it sometime.

With all your real photographic knowledge or creativity you couldn't afford a decent location for that mind blowing cut and paste video you did. you should post it here in the thread, so we can see how good you are.

DeanCapture · 10-08-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Why you want to put everyone else down is a question you should ask yourself.

Paul won GFY Troll Of The Year, that should explain it all. In other words, he's been identified and rewarded for being the biggest troll of the year. The fact that anyone would take him seriously after that is simply idiotic.

I put him on ignore, just like everyone else in this thread should do. Unless of course people enjoy watching an old man self-destruct because he realizes that he's about as insignificant as one can be in this industry.

Jel · 10-08-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Wait a minute! You're right!

You win!

You know all and see all. I have now been schooled not only on porn but also on social skills by "Jel"
Thanks man!

EDIT: Was the word "Wanker" directed at me? lol

I didn't attempt to school you on either porn nor social skills, so why you said that is about as clear as why you think it doesn't matter if someone is uncomfortable at being groped if they're simply a whore. All I did was pull you up on being a fucking tool. Don't mention it.

Robbie · 10-08-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

I didn't attempt to school you on either porn nor social skills, so why you said that is about as clear as why you think it doesn't matter if someone is uncomfortable at being groped if they're simply a whore. All I did was pull you up on being a fucking tool. Don't mention it.

Thanks! You've schooled me on being schooled! You are the man!

theking · 10-08-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I keep telling you, don't argue with him. He's a failure and hates me because I'm not.

If he's talking about Sandra, then he hasn't a fucking clue of our relationship. Looking at the video Reggie shot of us together and the one I shot of her it's pretty clear what our relationship was. That's why I chose her.

The video of Lola is one of an old shooter with a barely 18 timid teen. done for the camera and for promo, it was work. The fact is my wife was shooting it, takes a brave girl to not look embarrassed when her husband is shooting him adjusting her clothing. It was meant to be like that, if it wasn't it wouldn't of been put on Youtube.

You can't win arguing with him. He's moronic.

Actually you can see how terribly upset she was about the video clip here. Shit she looks devastated.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

So dumb, you have to think he's kidding. But not smart enough to pull off such an elaborate plan to look so dumb all the time... so he you're thinking that he can't be kidding. Then you think back quite a few years and you're thinking "yeah, actually he was always like this but it was just about other shit like politics, it was only after all his business completely tanked did he start babbling about tubes and why porn is a dead business and only he knows how to make money in porn".

He's always saying shit that no sane person can believe and so clearly speaking about things he knows nothing about, so you even though you know better, you still keep thinking "no one is this stupid"... but he's clearly not intelligent enough to pull off such an elaborate plan to consistently look so retarded just to wind people up, so you know that logically, he has to be this stupid... but its a sort of stupid that's just so deep, so profound and so unwavering no matter what facts are presented, that you are still thinking he can't be serious even as you start to realize he actually is.

The guy comes here to this forum to beg for money, admits his wife has to work to help pay the bills, his business is a joke, he lives off the government/pensions, not porn... but lectures non stop about how to make money in porn.

Such an epic mind fuck from the best accidental troll ever. A troll that's so dumb, he doesn't even know he's trolling... he actually thinks he's proving points and making sense. It's a stupid that runs so deep, a stupid that's so pure, that you kinda have to admire it in a way.

You are calling someone moronic? Clueless is as clueless does.

Jel · 10-08-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Thanks! You've schooled me on being schooled! You are the man!

Well I did say don't mention it, but again, you're welcome.

DamianJ · 10-08-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I didn't ask Damian to post my video.

You posted it on youtube,because you are proud of your lack of professionalism. Don't suggest it was some secret footage of your groping a model that I somehow leaked to the interwebs.

jimmycooper · 10-08-2011, 02:18 PM

Paul,

Have you ever shot any stills or scenes with the model wrapped in bubble wrap?

What about with a chair like the one in these pics?

Just curious.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-08-2011, 02:21 PM

Two Bob Cunt?!?

I love GFY - I learn something damn near every day here (whether I want to or not).

Honestly, I had never heard the term two bob cunt before, so I had to actually look it up:

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Two Bob Cunt

Used in the Libertines song "What A Waster", this phrase means "Cheap Whore":

"Mind your bleedin' own, you two bob cunt."

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Two Bob Cunt

1. Dishonest, thieving bastard. The low of the low belongs in a gutter.

2. Term of endearment between old friends in the pub.

1. Oi you filthy Two Bob Cunt, I can't believe you shagged my sister, you was supposed to be my best mate!

2. Do you wanna pint you two bob cunt, this rounds on me.

Quote:

In British currency, a bob was a slang expression for a shilling (five pence) but with decimalization in 1971, it became obsolete.

ADG

Robbie · 10-08-2011, 02:27 PM

That last .gif looks like Sen. Harry Reid in a diaper. lol (or Paul)

epitome · 10-08-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Paul won GFY Troll Of The Year, that should explain it all. In other words, he's been identified and rewarded for being the biggest troll of the year. The fact that anyone would take him seriously after that is simply idiotic.

I put him on ignore, just like everyone else in this thread should do. Unless of course people enjoy watching an old man self-destruct because he realizes that he's about as insignificant as one can be in this industry.

I love seeing one of the best in the industry put one of the worst in his place. Warms my heart. Bravo, sir!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-08-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

That last .gif looks like Sen. Harry Reid in a diaper. lol (or Paul)

Now that you mention it...

If you and CM can make it out to SF in two weeks (Oct 22nd), we're putting on a hot new show (Masquerotica). If you make it out, I'll buy you two a few pints, you two bob cunt (besides, I wanna see Claudia Marie's new twins - how they hangin'?)...

ADG

jimmycooper · 10-08-2011, 02:54 PM

Wow

Robbie · 10-08-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

If you and CM can make it out to SF in two weeks (Oct 22nd), we're putting on a hot new show (Masquerotica). If you make it out, I'll buy you two a few pints, you two bob cunt (besides, I wanna see Claudia Marie's new twins - how they hangin'?)...

ADG

They are awesome. We got one of the last sets of silicone implants made at this size in the world (all the big tit implant girls now have either string or saline). They are soft as bread dough. Just totally magnificent. I have a few pics of her since the new ones went in (Sept. 23rd) on her blog (we haven't shot them yet because she's still healing up) The posts from Sept. 28th forward are with the new ones: http://theclaudiamarieblog.com/

I'm not sure we can make it though. I have a lot going on here in Vegas this month (and a band gig to play as well). I'm sure we're gonna see you in Jan. though for AEE/Internext

SilentKnight · 10-08-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Liking the avatar Dean. Good gesture.

epitome · 10-08-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

They are awesome. We got one of the last sets of silicone implants made at this size in the world (all the big tit implant girls now have either string or saline). They are soft as bread dough. Just totally magnificent. I have a few pics of her since the new ones went in (Sept. 23rd) on her blog (we haven't shot them yet because she's still healing up) The posts from Sept. 28th forward are with the new ones: http://theclaudiamarieblog.com/

I'm not sure we can make it though. I have a lot going on here in Vegas this month (and a band gig to play as well). I'm sure we're gonna see you in Jan. though for AEE/Internext

Wait, how many times has she gotten implants? Didn't she get another new set not that long ago? Or is that what she is still healing from?

Robbie · 10-08-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Wait, how many times has she gotten implants? Didn't she get another new set not that long ago? Or is that what she is still healing from?

She had saline "expanders". That is the only kind that are still made (thank you U.S. govt.) that are bigger than 800 cc
That's why you see so few new girls with giant fake tits anymore.

We pretty much searched the world over (and I'm not kidding) and finally found a doctor who had some "new old stock" silicone implants that are 2500cc

So...the difference between saline and silicone (besides aesthetics, durability, and soft feel) is that when you put in saline ones, you place an empty bag in and then "blow it up" with water. With a silicone implant you have to have a proper sized "pocket" because it is already "filled up".

So she had to have 3 operations to make it happen. First they removed the old saline expanders she had. Then we let that heal for a few months (and shot a series funny vids called "Operation Implant Hunt"). Then new bigger saline expanders were placed and slowly filled over 3 months to create a pocket of large enough size to place the silicone implants.

Then FINALLY...on Sept 21st we had the silicone implants placed.
It's been a long process (almost all of 2011) and the cost was around $100,000 totalling in everything (expanders, the implants, and the surgeries to do them, travel, hotels, etc.)

But silicone implants like these can last a lifetime. The problem with saline (other than the fact that they are hard as rocks) is that the bags "crinkle" and then they tend to wear over time. And all it takes is a pin-sized tiny hole to "deflate" them (because they are filled with water). Silicone implants will not leak through a tiny hole like that.

Every plastic surgeon I've talked to over the years has said the same thing: They MUCH prefer silicone implants over the saline ones. And I've yet to meet even one doctor who put any credence into the claims that silicone implants caused any disease in women (as was claimed back in the early 1990's which led to the FDA banning all silicone implants for a few years).

Anyway, that's the story. And the finished product is just amazing. They are as so soft that you wouldn't believe they are implants (well, except for the freakishly large size), and she has great tits anyway...so they look beautiful. Perfect shaped, perfect "hang".

EukerVoorn · 10-08-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes you're right. I spent $400 on the model, $200 to $400 on the film, $150 on make up, was always buying new outfits for the girls. Plus all the lights, some $600 a head. We had a dozen. Plus furniture. so I could fuck the models. This goes for me and all other professionals.

I hope I'm misreading you here. If you mean that the model owes you sex or anything else apart from working hard for you because you booked her and invest in shooting with you, I strongly have to disagree.

EukerVoorn · 10-08-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Your problem is lighting. Something after 10 years you should of nailed. Reflected light, depth of field and "flat" images. That means lack of depth.

You need to stick your key lights as high as possible. So the light bouncing off the white back wall isn't going into the lens and giving you an out of focus image. What are you using to diffuse the lights? I would use a bowl, this is a fitting that looks like a big bowl with the light going into a smaller bowl.

Have 2 lights in front of the models, positioned in the corners of the room.

Have a back light to separate them from the wall. Balance all lights for an even lighting, this way it's not "Glam" lighting. There are no highlights. The viewer doesn't notice the lighting.

Shoot with the lights powerful enough to set the camera at F11 to F13. It's safest now with digital to go a 1/3 stop under. NEVER over expose. A picture can be lightened. Bastard to make it darker.

Buy a white or grey board to get the yellow tint out of your pictures. It's not your style as it's not in other pics on the tour.

But a light meter to read the light coming off the lights, if for no other reason than it looks impressive to models as you get the lighting set perfectly. Even if you don't have a clue, it looks good.

If you need a good set of lights, I'm selling ours. Don't see me coming back unless Manwin want an old invalid shooter.

Posing and framing on these shots isn't bad, not good though. A few elementary mistakes that after 10 years you should of cleaned up on.

Models seem a bit posed, but this can happen. DON"T stop and start them while shooting BG or GG. They're fucking each other and you need them getting into each other more and more. The video is next and by then you want them hot.

To judge the whole set, I would need to see the whole set. To judge the video I would need to see the video.

One more small point. When you shoot the "girl sucking a dick, vibrator, lollipop, pussy shot and looking at you. Shes teasing the fuck out of you making you think your cock is next. That's porn.

I did it with words, saying things like "Imagine it's me" "Make me wish it were me." and other stuff.

Now this is good, useful stuff Paul, thanks. I admit that even after 20 years I still make mistakes with lighting so please continue posting stuff like this.

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

hahahahahahaha the penny finally dropped here, this is really funny.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-09-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

They are awesome. We got one of the last sets of silicone implants made at this size in the world (all the big tit implant girls now have either string or saline). They are soft as bread dough. Just totally magnificent. I have a few pics of her since the new ones went in (Sept. 23rd) on her blog (we haven't shot them yet because she's still healing up) The posts from Sept. 28th forward are with the new ones: http://theclaudiamarieblog.com/

I'm not sure we can make it though. I have a lot going on here in Vegas this month (and a band gig to play as well). I'm sure we're gonna see you in Jan. though for AEE/Internext

CM is looking good. Too bad you can't make it out this time. I was hoping to get a photo of CM surrounded by a bevy of Asian girls. I'm arranging to have a few live performances too (would have been fun to have CM do a number - that girl can really sing):

Anyway, I'll try and take a few pictures at Masquerotica so you'll be sure to come next year (it should become an annual show if we do well), and for sure I'll be out to LV in January with a few girls in tow.

Even though we've met a handful of times, I've never actually felt Claudia-Marie's bewbies (I'm shy, lol), so maybe you can introduce me to them when I'm out there.

ADG

Jel · 10-09-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Even though we've met a handful of times, I've never actually felt Claudia-Marie's bewbies (I'm shy, lol), so maybe you can introduce me to them when I'm out there.

ADG

Just help yourself whenever you feel like it, she's only a whore

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent

OK Let me start by saying I dont like the Max hardcore stuff... but he is a performer, I would imagine the girls he hires know who they are working with and what the performance would include (piss and all)

However when a model turns up to shoot with a photographer, she isn't expecting him to touch her up... and make sexual inuendos...

And before anyone says anything, I have shot GONZO/POV... amazingly it was on the suggestion of a model... now as a 42 year old, fat, bald, spectical wearing guy... I was a little shocked, as I didn't see myself (nor do I now) as a stud... but working with girls as a performer, and doing it as the photographer to be is a big difference... just my opinion

I totally agree with your first post in this thread, about the no-touch rule. About Max Hardcore, he booked young vulnerable girls and almost raped them in front of cam. I don't think all of these girls knew what to to expect and mabye he was one of those producers who let the models sign the model-release BEFORE the shoot.

I also shot with Sarah and Natalie by the way, very nice girls and especially Sarah wouldn't accept any photographer trying to have sex with her

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Paul,

Have you ever shot any stills or scenes with the model wrapped in bubble wrap?

What about with a chair like the one in these pics?

Just curious.

No never shot it. Way out of my league.

However you have to recognise these shots for what they are and there place in the porn market.

I suspect and please correct me if I'm wrong, they're "Calender shots". These are one off pictures, they take hours to set up, used to cost more in Polaroid film than online guys would ever spend and sold for prices that would make you drop.

More of Ken Marcus. http://www.kenmarcus.com/tour/

It's why, while walking across Charles Bridge in Prague, a few weeks ago I saw a crew doing some stills photography. There was a shooter, his assistant, another one holding a reflector, 1 model being shot, another 2 waiting to be shot, a make up girl and a stylist. He was shooting into the silver reflector with a big hammer head on camera flash and him and his assistant were looking at the shots one by one on the lap top and adjusting everything.

This is what we shot, Eva did this one. http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=2409

This is one of mine http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=1966
The set I shot just after the notorious video. http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=2414

This is magazine set photography. Nothing to do with what Jimmy posted. Odds are the shooter who did that couldn't do what I do and I can't do what he does. Well neither of us do it well. The common link between us is the camera.

jimmycooper · 10-09-2011, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No never shot it. Way out of my league.

However you have to recognise these shots for what they are and there place in the porn market.

I suspect and please correct me if I'm wrong, they're "Calender shots". These are one off pictures, they take hours to set up, used to cost more in Polaroid film than online guys would ever spend and sold for prices that would make you drop.

More of Ken Marcus. http://www.kenmarcus.com/tour/

It's why, while walking across Charles Bridge in Prague, a few weeks ago I saw a crew doing some stills photography. There was a shooter, his assistant, another one holding a reflector, 1 model being shot, another 2 waiting to be shot, a make up girl and a stylist. He was shooting into the silver reflector with a big hammer head on camera flash and him and his assistant were looking at the shots one by one on the lap top and adjusting everything.

This is what we shot, Eva did this one. http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=2409

This is one of mine http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=1966
The set I shot just after the notorious video. http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=2414

This is magazine set photography. Nothing to do with what Jimmy posted. Odds are the shooter who did that couldn't do what I do and I can't do what he does. Well neither of us do it well. The common link between us is the camera.

Is it true that the devil artist guy from the Charles Bridge is dead?

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I hope I'm misreading you here. If you mean that the model owes you sex or anything else apart from working hard for you because you booked her and invest in shooting with you, I strongly have to disagree.

Yes you're misreading it. I'm saying with all that money at stake, the last thing I need is an upset girl. Trying to sell her to my market was impossible. And this is what kept a lot of wannabees out. Some like Dean were not Set photographers. Most were dirty old men that made girls feel so uncomfortable it showed. What all you "Damian Followers" don't get is obviously plain. If he was right, I would of gone out of business 30 years ago. If you don't see that, you're in the wrong business.

So let's get back to the real world and do a check.

A. Men lust after women.
B. This gives all of you a job and income.
C. Without us shooters getting the very best out of girls, you don't earn a lot.
D. A scared, timid or put off girl doesn't sell very well.
E. The only reason the girl is in the studio earning 2-4 weeks of a normal wage is because she's a 8-10 and men lust after her more than the 3-7 girls.
F. The biggest harm that comes to these girls is affiliates spreading her content around the Internet for her friends and family to see.

Lola was handled by Eva for most of the day. I shot a set of her after this clip was shot. http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=2414

She is one of the many types we got to see. They ranged from the timid door mouse to the dragon. Literally there were girls who I would faint if we asked them to take their bra off. They dreamed of being at the most an underwear model. Way up to the Donna Warner's of the world who would fuck for a pizza. And probably fucked more shooters than she could remember. Go see her interviews.

Girls who walk into a studio and put as much of themselves into the job as a girl on the check out swiping your groceries and girls who will multi orgasm all day and often in need of baby wipes because they get very wet. We have to bring the first one off auto pilot and calm the other one down.

Shooters work in a world they have to be as comfortable about a girls natural bodily functions as she is, sometimes more so. She might do a pink and reveal she's bleeding, got discharge, or herpes. She might remove a dildo, penis or cucumber from her vagina and re\vela blood or discharge, it might be a bit of poo during an anal scene. We have to stop and deal with it in a matter of fact manner.

She might have a BF phone in the middle of a days work and fuck her up. She might have PMT and start getting aggressive or weepy. She might turn up after a heavy night thinking she can knock out a days work.

We deal with all this to deliver to you a product that grabs customers by the balls so you can earn a living.

The last thing we will do is upset a girl, let her think we're uncomfortable being near her, or touching her or doing up her bra strap. Because that costs us and you money. Ad we all know you don't give a shit if you earn money. She could have her family disown her because of the Tube video you posted on Pornhub got seen by her family. Won't make you stop stop posting more.

People like Steve letting girls work in their cocoon and letting them think he's a bit put off by a bloody sponge lodged inside her, are like animal rights people working in an abattoir. In the wrong place doing the wrong job. You're probably more of a pervert than me and definitely nervous of yourself. The content you produce because of this is sub standard.

To get top porn content girls need to be pushed to their edge, we need them to pull something out of themselves that makes the viewer buy more and more of her. We don't just point a camera.

Now if you don't like this or don't like the fact of an old man doing it, kindly go get a job in a different industry. Truth is when you're posting her videos on a Tube and doing your best to get millions of hits. You don't give a flying fuck on the the effect it will have on the girls life. She's exposed to the world. you're just some anonymous nick.

jimmycooper · 10-09-2011, 01:11 AM

This guy.

http://www.robertcarrithers.com/2009...es-bridge.html

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Now this is good, useful stuff Paul, thanks. I admit that even after 20 years I still make mistakes with lighting so please continue posting stuff like this.

The only way I can correct your work is to see it. It's like PK's marketing advice, go to Facebook.

It needs 1 - 1 tuition to get your work up in a standard it could be. Lighting today is a doddle. (Cockney slang for very easy) you take a test shot, put it on the lap top and correct. which is why I'm amazed at TC's elementary mistakes. In the days of film you had to learn and learn fast. Before the bills put you our of business.

I need to see your work then chat with you about the equipment you have, locations you shoot in and what you want to achieve.

Hit me up in private if you need any help. It stays private.

porno jew · 10-09-2011, 01:18 AM

wonder if the poor girl still has nightmares, can feel the touch or your cold dead heads caressing her body in her dreams, a real life nightmare on Julianovske street.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Is it true that the devil artist guy from the Charles Bridge is dead?

No idea who he is.

Comparing what I do with what Ken Marcus does, is like comparing what a Jumbo Jet pilot does and a Fighter Pilot does. Two entirely different jobs.

By the time he's got the lighting right, me and the model are sharing a cup of tea after the set.

jimmycooper · 10-09-2011, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No idea who he is.

Comparing what I do with what Ken Marcus does, is like comparing what a Jumbo Jet pilot does and a Fighter Pilot does. Two entirely different jobs.

By the time he's got the lighting right, me and the model are sharing a cup of tea after the set.

Yeah I know, I was just working on a blog post, thought they were great shots, and wanted to share.

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes you're misreading it. I'm saying with all that money at stake, the last thing I need is an upset girl.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. As for the rest of your post... yes, apart from photographers we're also garbage men, psychiatrists and control freaks. We have to do anything to control the situation so that the model stays happy and comfortable and we still get our shots. I truly believe that being a pornographer is one of the most difficult jobs imaginable and once you proved you can do this, you can do any other job

I work with a lot Terms Of Working with my by the way in which I explain all the rules to the model before booking her. Things like... mobile phones off during shoots, no laptopping, no snacking on the set (you eat in the kitchen - keep the set clean), etc etc

I'll start a thread about mobile phones soon, it's interesting - ever had the mobile phone roaming on your XLR mikes? Damn....

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Hit me up in private if you need any help. It stays private.

Yeah I don't mind showing you some photos and videos and discuss lighting, it's interesting. But I already sent you an e-mail some weeks ago, I went through the anti-spam site... didn't you get it? The mail starts with "this is Euker".

Cherry7 · 10-09-2011, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Yeah I don't mind showing you some photos and videos and discuss lighting, it's interesting. But I already sent you an e-mail some weeks ago, I went through the anti-spam site... didn't you get it? The mail starts with "this is Euker".

If you think Paul markham knows anything worth knowing about lighting you are deluding yourself and will waste your time listening to nonsense.

There are a few very good books on photography and lighting...

"Basic photography" by Michael Langford

"Painting with Light" by John Alton.

To name just two.

These are by people who actualy know what they are doing. Paul Markham has taken the same picture over and over again, just changing the girl.

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 03:04 AM

I try to harvest the positive and try to ignore the bad stuff, no matter who I'm dealing with. You really don't have to tell me how to deal with Paul or other people. Thanks for the book suggestions, I'll look them up at amazon.co.uk and order them.

Cherry7 · 10-09-2011, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I try to harvest the positive and try to ignore the bad stuff, no matter who I'm dealing with. You really don't have to tell me how to deal with Paul or other people. Thanks for the book suggestions, I'll look them up at amazon.co.uk and order them.

Not just you, but anybody looking to learn. It is shame that they may be told nonsense that will waste their time when there are good sources of information out there that can really help.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 04:11 AM

OK next chapter.

While affiliates are doing their absolute best to make sure the girls porn content gets seen by the world. Shooters are in studios shooting them and trying to get the girls best from them to ensure the affiliates hard work produces results. Of course affiliates who insist on promoting girls who are working how they want to and well withing their cocoons are welcome to choose those sites.

For shooters working for a more demanding audience, here's how I sort the wheat from the chaff on a casting.

Greeting the the girls as they arrive properly is essential. Walk up to them with a friendly smile, introduce yourself, thank her for coming and ask her if she would like refreshments. This is the part of any meeting that makes or breaks you. Not just a casting, any meeting.

Sit them down and explain what happens today. Then show them my work, often in the location we were sitting or with my name on. It established me as a professional. Then tell them more about what I do, who I do it for, how I do it and that they would get paid according to the work done. At the end they can ask questions and welcome to ask as the chat goes along.

Plus things like 2257. And at the end we would be doing some nude test shots, if she brought her ID she would be paid for. If not, then not paid as I can't sell it. Still I needed to see what she could do.

I said I needed girls to work a hard so we sell the work. Then answer any questions she has. Then ask her what she wanted to do.

All the time I'm assessing the girl to see how she needs to be managed and how to bring the best out of her, or how to tell her gently that she had better go home and think of another way of earning money.

If she chose to do work I could sell of her, she got to take her kit off. If not she got told I couldn't sell her doing that. Had some of the craziest girls turn up. Plump or flat chested girls who want to be lingerie models. Drug addicts who would do anything. Really plain girls who would do anything, but I could never sell. The worse were the bossy aggressive types who would try to dominate me. If they were ugly, telling them to go home was like taking my life into my own hands.

All the time I was assessing her I was letting her see who I was. I wasn't the touchy feely type who wouldn't do up her bra. I was a cheeky, flirty and sexy guy who was totally up front about it. I also made sure they knew they were there to work or not to bother.

For the video work they often watched the videos I shot. I pulled no punches.

Then into the studio, kit off, take some pics, tell them to put their kit back on and book them. Telling them to confirm the day before.

If the girl didn't like it I was bright enough to spot it and tell them I don't spend tons of money to take advantage of them physically. I do however need them to work hard at being sexy and sensual.

Sometimes the girls didn't phone, good I don't want to work with her. It happened too few times to worry about. Sometimes a girl actually asked me if she would have to fuck me to get work. I replied with a joke,. "Sorry no, wait till you get home and let the BF do it." Done as a joke it works. Most of the time professional enough to show I was doing this for them money and enjoyed it.

I could do it this way, because I knew. My big head was always in charge of the little head when their was money at stake.

When shooting I often said many an outrageous thing that in a bar would get my face slapped, but in a porn studio, shooting a porn model for porn. Seemed to work so well my hit rate at the good magazines ran at 90%. A good hit rate. I sold everything I shot. Luckily there were mags who would take anything I shot. They were later replaced by Internet sites. If it were cheap enough the number of sales were fantastic.

If I was only working for online. I coud of turned out a level much lower than magazines demanded. So long as the price was right. Which has cost you guys a fortune over the years. you all know the great sites that convert and you're bright enough to know why they convert so well.

They have guys like me pushing girls to put themselves at the edge and not going through some tired routine they've done a 100 times before.

And before some US and UK shooter jumps in and tells me "You try doing that with US/UK girls today." Well fine, tell the girls to fuck off, because members want them to do what members need, not what they condescend to do. Put them out of work and they'll be doing anything required or swiping your shopping on the check out at Ralphs or Tescos.

It's a tough game today, get tough or get out.

All the above had to be doe with a smile and never forced on the girl. The members force it on sponsors, the force it on shooters. Shooters find girls who don't need forcing.

And Trolls remember that when you choose to flame me.

DamianJ · 10-09-2011, 04:16 AM

Or

I get a scared, broke and vulnerable girl in, pay her 400 bucks (as if) and then grope her and talk about how she is making my penis hard.

You're funny Paul. One day you boast about touching up models, fucking them, and feeling entitled to touch them as you paid them money.

The next day you're pretending you don't do that and are professional.

This is an odd lie, because the video evidence proves otherwise.

It's good you've now realised your behaviour is amateur at best and illegal at worst and are trying to cover your lies up. Nice work.

Are you still pretending to have me on ignore?

Now, anyway, this job you've got teaching young children English, is it actually in Brno? I am googling all the tefl places to send them a little dossier I have on you.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Yeah I don't mind showing you some photos and videos and discuss lighting, it's interesting. But I already sent you an e-mail some weeks ago, I went through the anti-spam site... didn't you get it? The mail starts with "this is Euker".

Sorry, never got it. Skype or ICQ is best. Failing that Hotmail.com Paulmarkhamcontent at.......

Love giving people a hand to get better.

Quote:

Ok thanks for clearing that up. As for the rest of your post... yes, apart from photographers we're also garbage men, psychiatrists and control freaks. We have to do anything to control the situation so that the model stays happy and comfortable and we still get our shots. I truly believe that being a pornographer is one of the most difficult jobs imaginable and once you proved you can do this, you can do any other job

I work with a lot Terms Of Working with my by the way in which I explain all the rules to the model before booking her. Things like... mobile phones off during shoots, no laptopping, no snacking on the set (you eat in the kitchen - keep the set clean), etc etc

I'll start a thread about mobile phones soon, it's interesting - ever had the mobile phone roaming on your XLR mikes? Damn....

No worries. I was only ever worried if the girls thought that. Anyone else can think what they like.

I forgot to mention I had girls in the office or near by when doing castings.

Yes your other points were very valid, we had a notice in the studio so the girls turned them off. More worried about a BF phoning them and fucking up the days work.

Years ago the only girls who had mobiles were hookers. They were expensive. Always amusing when the the girl denied being a hooker and said it was for keeping in touch with her friends. They were usually friends she needed to write down an address to find.

The funny stories I could tell you about castings would fill a book. From the absolutely hilarious to the sad, from the sexual to the scary. Now that would make a good blog. Someone hit me up and help me put up a nice one, please and they get links.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7

If you think Paul markham knows anything worth knowing about lighting you are deluding yourself and will waste your time listening to nonsense.

There are a few very good books on photography and lighting...

"Basic photography" by Michael Langford

"Painting with Light" by John Alton.

To name just two.

These are by people who actualy know what they are doing. Paul Markham has taken the same picture over and over again, just changing the girl.

And made more money with my crap skills and repeat shots than you ever will. You're an amateur trying to be an artist.

I'm a businessman.

You cannot learn to shoot porn from a book.

And another guy whose bad at doing a job that pays badly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Or

I get a scared, broke and vulnerable girl in, pay her 400 bucks (as if) and then grope her and talk about how she is making my penis hard.

You're funny Paul. One day you boast about touching up models, fucking them, and feeling entitled to touch them as you paid them money.

The next day you're pretending you don't do that and are professional.

This is an odd lie, because the video evidence proves otherwise.

It's good you've now realised your behaviour is amateur at best and illegal at worst and are trying to cover your lies up. Nice work.

Are you still pretending to have me on ignore?

Now, anyway, this job you've got teaching young children English, is it actually in Brno? I am googling all the tefl places to send them a little dossier I have on you.

I do sometimes fuck girls after a shoot. How do you think Eva and I ended up married. How do you think lots of shooters ended up dating or marrying models?

Run along and make sure all the models on the sites you promote get maximum exposure. They really prefer that to fucking some guy when they want to.

10-08-2011, 01:03 PM	#102
ottopottomouse She is ugly, bad luck. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,177	Lot of strong opinions in this thread. __________________ ↑ see post ↑ 13101

10-08-2011, 01:34 PM	#110
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Trashy Content did not ask for their content to be reviewed, and yet you did it anyway. Surprise surprise you know better.... What your comments do reveal is your lack of any real photographic knowledge or creativity. You have been taking the same photograph over and over again, just changing the models. Why you want to put everyone else down is a question you should ask yourself. __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

10-08-2011, 02:18 PM	#118
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	Paul, Have you ever shot any stills or scenes with the model wrapped in bubble wrap? What about with a chair like the one in these pics? Just curious. __________________ Last edited by jimmycooper; 10-08-2011 at 02:20 PM..

10-08-2011, 02:27 PM	#120
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	That last .gif looks like Sen. Harry Reid in a diaper. lol (or Paul) __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

10-08-2011, 02:54 PM	#123
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	Wow __________________ Last edited by jimmycooper; 10-08-2011 at 02:55 PM..

10-08-2011, 01:01 PM	#101
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	In the spirit of the OP - lightpainting stills in dark studio settings is still a frontier. If you can capture water effects in combination, flares, sparklers, glow-sticks - fuck, throw some pyro-fireworks into the mix...you're on to something. Picture this - a gorgeous, nekkid model (doin' the nasty for bonus points) at the base of a frozen waterfall - at night - backlit with spots, lightpainted from the front...with other special lighting f/x (flares, whatnot) added in. This industry fails big-time at thinking outside the box and going the extra mile to get something really unique and special. It's partly why I've given up even posting and conversing on forums in the last while. You regurgitate the same formulated shit over and over...and then moan the blues as to why the industry is dying. /endrant

10-09-2011, 01:11 AM	#137
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	This guy. http://www.robertcarrithers.com/2009...es-bridge.html __________________

10-09-2011, 01:18 AM	#139
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	wonder if the poor girl still has nightmares, can feel the touch or your cold dead heads caressing her body in her dreams, a real life nightmare on Julianovske street.

10-09-2011, 03:04 AM	#145
EukerVoorn So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Les Alpes, France Posts: 1,423	I try to harvest the positive and try to ignore the bad stuff, no matter who I'm dealing with. You really don't have to tell me how to deal with Paul or other people. Thanks for the book suggestions, I'll look them up at amazon.co.uk and order them.

10-09-2011, 04:11 AM	#147
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	OK next chapter. While affiliates are doing their absolute best to make sure the girls porn content gets seen by the world. Shooters are in studios shooting them and trying to get the girls best from them to ensure the affiliates hard work produces results. Of course affiliates who insist on promoting girls who are working how they want to and well withing their cocoons are welcome to choose those sites. For shooters working for a more demanding audience, here's how I sort the wheat from the chaff on a casting. Greeting the the girls as they arrive properly is essential. Walk up to them with a friendly smile, introduce yourself, thank her for coming and ask her if she would like refreshments. This is the part of any meeting that makes or breaks you. Not just a casting, any meeting. Sit them down and explain what happens today. Then show them my work, often in the location we were sitting or with my name on. It established me as a professional. Then tell them more about what I do, who I do it for, how I do it and that they would get paid according to the work done. At the end they can ask questions and welcome to ask as the chat goes along. Plus things like 2257. And at the end we would be doing some nude test shots, if she brought her ID she would be paid for. If not, then not paid as I can't sell it. Still I needed to see what she could do. I said I needed girls to work a hard so we sell the work. Then answer any questions she has. Then ask her what she wanted to do. All the time I'm assessing the girl to see how she needs to be managed and how to bring the best out of her, or how to tell her gently that she had better go home and think of another way of earning money. If she chose to do work I could sell of her, she got to take her kit off. If not she got told I couldn't sell her doing that. Had some of the craziest girls turn up. Plump or flat chested girls who want to be lingerie models. Drug addicts who would do anything. Really plain girls who would do anything, but I could never sell. The worse were the bossy aggressive types who would try to dominate me. If they were ugly, telling them to go home was like taking my life into my own hands. All the time I was assessing her I was letting her see who I was. I wasn't the touchy feely type who wouldn't do up her bra. I was a cheeky, flirty and sexy guy who was totally up front about it. I also made sure they knew they were there to work or not to bother. For the video work they often watched the videos I shot. I pulled no punches. Then into the studio, kit off, take some pics, tell them to put their kit back on and book them. Telling them to confirm the day before. If the girl didn't like it I was bright enough to spot it and tell them I don't spend tons of money to take advantage of them physically. I do however need them to work hard at being sexy and sensual. Sometimes the girls didn't phone, good I don't want to work with her. It happened too few times to worry about. Sometimes a girl actually asked me if she would have to fuck me to get work. I replied with a joke,. "Sorry no, wait till you get home and let the BF do it." Done as a joke it works. Most of the time professional enough to show I was doing this for them money and enjoyed it. I could do it this way, because I knew. My big head was always in charge of the little head when their was money at stake. When shooting I often said many an outrageous thing that in a bar would get my face slapped, but in a porn studio, shooting a porn model for porn. Seemed to work so well my hit rate at the good magazines ran at 90%. A good hit rate. I sold everything I shot. Luckily there were mags who would take anything I shot. They were later replaced by Internet sites. If it were cheap enough the number of sales were fantastic. If I was only working for online. I coud of turned out a level much lower than magazines demanded. So long as the price was right. Which has cost you guys a fortune over the years. you all know the great sites that convert and you're bright enough to know why they convert so well. They have guys like me pushing girls to put themselves at the edge and not going through some tired routine they've done a 100 times before. And before some US and UK shooter jumps in and tells me "You try doing that with US/UK girls today." Well fine, tell the girls to fuck off, because members want them to do what members need, not what they condescend to do. Put them out of work and they'll be doing anything required or swiping your shopping on the check out at Ralphs or Tescos. It's a tough game today, get tough or get out. All the above had to be doe with a smile and never forced on the girl. The members force it on sponsors, the force it on shooters. Shooters find girls who don't need forcing. And Trolls remember that when you choose to flame me. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

10-09-2011, 04:16 AM	#148
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Or I get a scared, broke and vulnerable girl in, pay her 400 bucks (as if) and then grope her and talk about how she is making my penis hard. You're funny Paul. One day you boast about touching up models, fucking them, and feeling entitled to touch them as you paid them money. The next day you're pretending you don't do that and are professional. This is an odd lie, because the video evidence proves otherwise. It's good you've now realised your behaviour is amateur at best and illegal at worst and are trying to cover your lies up. Nice work. Are you still pretending to have me on ignore? Now, anyway, this job you've got teaching young children English, is it actually in Brno? I am googling all the tefl places to send them a little dossier I have on you.