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Old 11-18-2011, 12:49 AM   #1
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What is the best way to find a programmer.

To work on speculative work? Not sure if I have the correct term.

I'm looking for a partner in a mainstream website.

[email protected]

Also, does anyone know where the best place would be to find someone like this? Maybe the local university?

Young, hungry, loves to code and doesn't have a family!

Ruby on rails or any LAMP will do!
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:59 AM   #2
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What is the best way to find a programmer.
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Look in their parents basement
Do you have an address for me to start my search?
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A school isn't a bad place to look. We're in a college town and found a recent graduate via craigslist. Finding someone with a clue is hard enough; I wish you luck finding someone clueful who will do speculative work.

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i'd contact someone you may know that has custom scripts see who they use. programmers are flaky and you'll probably want someone you can trust and actually complete the job with good coding.
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Young, hungry, loves to code and doesn't have a family!
This requirement = no self discipline (in my experience)
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Their is a Partnerships section at DP however lots of these guys really don`t have two pennies to rub together and secondly, some of the work quality isn`t considered to be of the highest standard in the world. Still might be worth a look though.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:33 AM   #10
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Their is a Partnerships section at DP however lots of these guys really don`t have two pennies to rub together and secondly, some of the work quality isn`t considered to be of the highest standard in the world. Still might be worth a look though.
WTF is DP?
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Didn`t want to post the full URL what with linking to other forums. DigitalPoint.
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if it isn't an adult project contact local universities and see if they need companies for their students to do a stage at. they get experience and you get a free employee.
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Didn`t want to post the full URL what with linking to other forums. DigitalPoint.
You can say it as long as you don't link to it. I think!
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speculative = they get paid after you start making $$ from the project? good luck with that
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After spending shitload of hours with searching and working with various programmers all over world,i concluded how it's best to learn programming by myself,so i did that.And guess what,it's very easy,i dont know why i hesitated all these years.I would save a lot of trouble and money if i did that earlier.
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speculative = they get paid after you start making $$ from the project? good luck with that
Correct, BUT if the project makes good money, they are partners in the deal. It will take a special type of programmer who believes in your idea.

I know it's going to be hard to find!
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In my experience, these types of scenarios NEVER end well. I would suggest posting what you need on ODesk.com
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Drocd is that kind of programmer... Not sure if he has time...
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In my experience, these types of scenarios NEVER end well. I would suggest posting what you need on ODesk.com
Everything is in writing and terms agreed to before he starts. I live in US. Looking for a partner, not looking to fuck someone over.
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Yeah the OP wants partner and a programmer. It's probably best that they not be the same person. Probably the partner needs to be someone with money to pay the programmer(s).

That said, what's the project? It just might be something we'ce already done most of the work on. If I was convinced it would make money and the time investment were minimal, I might consider putting my team on it or referring you to someone who may be interested.

Also for some projects one could find an open source project that more or less meets your needs and sponsor development at a very low cost.
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Yeah the OP wants partner and a programmer. It's probably best that they not be the same person. Probably the partner needs to be someone with money to pay the programmer(s).

That said, what's the project? It just might be something we'ce already done most of the work on. If I was convinced it would make money and the time investment were minimal, I might consider putting my team on it or referring you to someone who may be interested.

Also for some projects one could find an open source project that more or less meets your needs and sponsor development at a very low cost.
Drop your e mail.
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My company does such kinds of projects... but there are several rules:

1 ) A new formed company is made for that specific project and that new company is based in Spain.
2 ) If you provide only the idea, and no money, then we get 75% of the project share and 25% is for you. Also there is an extra clause in the contract in case the project gets sold some day (tends to happen) you get 30% of the sale price (instead of 25%) after expenses. That's for projects that need less than 250k euro to get working. For more expensive projects your share goes down.
3 ) If you also provide the money to run with all the show, then we take between 40% and 50% of the project share. Depending on the project cost this could be negotiated.
4 ) If it's a military use project, then it cannot be a missile guidance system. Everything else is ok.

We have a bit more rules like these, but basically the percentage shares make it easy to separate real projects from useless ones.
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My company does such kinds of projects... but there are several rules:

1 ) A new formed company is made for that specific project and that new company is based in Spain.
2 ) If you provide only the idea, and no money, then we get 75% of the project share and 25% is for you. Also there is an extra clause in the contract in case the project gets sold some day (tends to happen) you get 30% of the sale price (instead of 25%) after expenses. That's for projects that need less than 250k euro to get working. For more expensive projects your share goes down.
3 ) If you also provide the money to run with all the show, then we take between 40% and 50% of the project share. Depending on the project cost this could be negotiated.
4 ) If it's a military use project, then it cannot be a missile guidance system. Everything else is ok.

We have a bit more rules like these, but basically the percentage shares make it easy to separate real projects from useless ones.
Crazy to agree to those terms.
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Not at all !

I am a an official "Poogrammer' and I advertise on CL...

& I have NEVER disappeared on ANYONE !




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Correct, BUT if the project makes good money, they are partners in the deal. It will take a special type of programmer who believes in your idea.

I know it's going to be hard to find!
Impossible, actually. Do you have any idea how many times any developer worth their weight has been hit up with propositions like this? No developer worth working with is going to take you up on the deal. They don't give a fuck about your ideas. They want cold, hard cash.
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Correct, BUT if the project makes good money, they are partners in the deal. It will take a special type of programmer who believes in your idea.

I know it's going to be hard to find!
ive been offered sooo many deals like this.

need i tell you how many sites and site owners i never heard from again?

LOL

it all sounds great, but when someone isnt getting a single dime from something that begins to take up a lot of time, you lose interest quickly as the bills mount and youre left working for nothing.

i was joking last night how a client had promised me revenue from a site I did some stuff for etc...

he sold the site not long after lol

luckily i made him give me some money up fron that at least covered the designs i delivered
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ive been offered sooo many deals like this.

need i tell you how many sites and site owners i never heard from again?

LOL

it all sounds great, but when someone isnt getting a single dime from something that begins to take up a lot of time, you lose interest quickly as the bills mount and youre left working for nothing.

i was joking last night how a client had promised me revenue from a site I did some stuff for etc...

he sold the site not long after lol

luckily i made him give me some money up fron that at least covered the designs i delivered
Yes that is curse of any partnership deal,you could spend a year working yet benefiting nothing or something little.But again,sometime if you willing to risk it can generate really good results.After all all today projects which generated billions are done by partners,not single person,like google,yahoo,facebook,etc....
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Yes that is curse of any partnership deal,you could spend a year working yet benefiting nothing or something little.But again,sometime if you willing to risk it can generate really good results.After all all today projects which generated billions are done by partners,not single person,like google,yahoo,facebook,etc....
yes. ive been involved in a few deals of this nature.

I had a deal like this set up with Donovan Phillips with porn sites, and for awhile I was getting nice ccbill checks.

but nothing seems to last forever in this world and things change.

He ended up turning religious and selling.

If the deal was good and mutually benefitting or at least worth investment of time, id probably still do it lol not being negative at all really, just in my experience, yes you can make a couple dollars but its not everlasting as if you paid programmer off and did all work yourself.
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Impossible, actually. Do you have any idea how many times any developer worth their weight has been hit up with propositions like this? No developer worth working with is going to take you up on the deal. They don't give a fuck about your ideas. They want cold, hard cash.
I would totally disagree with you on this.. I spend a lot of time researching start ups and incubator type of projects. Of course they want cash, but not all.
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http://www.peopleperhour.com/ we get people from here all the time. Just post a job and wait for the bids to come in. Out of about 10 bids you will find 1 or 2 that you will consider.
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Crazy to agree to those terms.
You want more than 25% just for an idea where you do none of the initial work and put up no money?

Good luck with that.
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http://www.peopleperhour.com/ we get people from here all the time. Just post a job and wait for the bids to come in. Out of about 10 bids you will find 1 or 2 that you will consider.
I never tried service there but i am sure they are good,they seems to me as most organized freelance site then any other.I loved their first april joke where they announced how they will brokerage sex services for lonely programmers.
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I would totally disagree with you on this.. I spend a lot of time researching start ups and incubator type of projects. Of course they want cash, but not all.
Up to you, but you're the one searching for a developer to work for free, not me. Maybe you'll find some 13 year old kid in India to buy into your idea, but I wouldn't expect anyone of quality.
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