SOPA Haters Are Already Finding Easy Ways To Circumvent Its Censorship - GoFuckYourself.com

porno jew · 12-21-2011, 12:08 PM

DeSopa takes advantage of an blatant weakness in how SOPA?s controversial filtering mandate would function under the current version of the bill. The new copyright infringement regime would allow editing of the Domain Name System, the registry that converts websites? domains (like Google.com or Yahoo.com) into an Internet Protocol address (like 74.125.157.99 or 98.137.149.56). When you type ?Google.com? into your browser, your computer communicates with DNS servers that convert that name into an IP address. But type the IP address directly into your browser, and it works just as well.

Since SOPA would lead to editing American DNS servers? IP lists to insert errors for sites deemed illegal, DeSopa simply checks with foreign DNS servers to find the correct IP address and navigates directly to whatever blocked site the user enters. To avoid incorrect IP addresses in those foreign servers, the program even checks domains with three DNS servers and grabs whichever IP address has at least two agreeing answers. ?Similar offshore resolution services will eventually maintain their own cache of websites, without blacklisting, in order to meet the demand created by SOPA,? writes Rizk.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...ts-censorship/

SmutHammer · 12-21-2011, 12:13 PM

that's fine let the pirates work around things, truth is, as long as the average person can't download stolen content things will be better.

I'm sure the usa will put a stop to it at some point.

signupdamnit · 12-21-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

that's fine let the pirates work around things, truth is, as long as the average person can't download stolen content things will be better.

I'm sure the usa will put a stop to it at some point.

Exactly. Sites like PornHub and Extreme Board could still reasonably lose 80% of their U.S. traffic. And that's just fine by me. Another bonus is that Google might have to de-list them. And, again, I don't know about you all but I won't be shedding any tears for them.

alias · 12-21-2011, 12:27 PM

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blackmonsters · 12-21-2011, 12:39 PM

I don't understand the DNS system fully so wondering why can't the IP address be shut down?

We can block an IP address from surfing our websites with htaccess, so why can't
an IP address be blocked by DNS servers?

signupdamnit · 12-21-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I don't understand the DNS system fully so wondering why can't the IP address be shut down?

We can block an IP address from surfing our websites with htaccess, so why can't
an IP address be blocked by DNS servers?

DNS isn't always needed to go to a site. You can type in the IP address instead. You can also run your own DNS server or use a host file. But an ISP can null route the IP address which would mean having to use a proxy or having the site use another IP address instead.

porno jew · 12-21-2011, 12:45 PM

considering domain seizures thus far i predict zero porn sites will be shut down.

Why · 12-21-2011, 03:23 PM

lets not forget all the VPN access americans will be buying if SOPA were to pass.

seeandsee · 12-21-2011, 03:28 PM

When is voting for SOPA?

mynameisjim · 12-21-2011, 03:44 PM

Not sure I understand his logic. He created a method to circumvent the law to prove the law won't work. What's he going to do next, kill someone to prove that homicide laws don't work?

Is any law or regulation air tight? There are laws against child pornography being on the internet, yet people still find ways to do it. Nobody is suggesting child pornography laws are pointless, yet that's the logic in that article.

blackmonsters · 12-21-2011, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Not sure I understand his logic. He created a method to circumvent the law to prove the law won't work. What's he going to do next, kill someone to prove that homicide laws don't work?

Is any law or regulation air tight? There are laws against child pornography being on the internet, yet people still find ways to do it. Nobody is suggesting child pornography laws are pointless, yet that's the logic in that article.

Yeah, it's like bank robbery is against the law but I bet any of us stupid enough
could rob a bank tomorrow. So what?

Won't change the fact that when caught we'd be crying our asses off.

The only thing he is really doing is setting the stage to where we all have to
be finger printed to get an IP address.

People who push the law only make the law push forward.

raymor · 12-21-2011, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I don't understand the DNS system fully so wondering why can't the IP address be shut down?

We can block an IP address from surfing our websites with htaccess, so why can't
an IP address be blocked by DNS servers?

Because switching IPs is a lot less painful than changing the domain name of your site.

bronco67 · 12-21-2011, 07:34 PM

The real problem with piracy in the last couple of years has been that it doesn't take a hacker to find and download anything. Your dumbass Aunt Judy can pull up Google and get whatever she wants without much hassle.

Make it harder for that part of the population(which is huge) to download torrents, or whatever and it'll make a huge dent in theft.

Paul Markham · 12-22-2011, 12:54 AM

Piracy is costing the US billions, it's in the cross hairs. If SOPA doesn't work, they will come up with a bigger more restrictive rule to make pirates squeal. Will just take a bit longer. Stop the cash flow is my way of doing it.

If you advertise or process on/for a piracy site you must be subject to being sued by the victims. Let Paypal face MGM in the courts and see how long they want to process for them. Let traffic sellers face Sony Music in the courts and see them run scared.

No income, a lot less piracy.

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The real problem with piracy in the last couple of years has been that it doesn't take a hacker to find and download anything. Your dumbass Aunt Judy can pull up Google and get whatever she wants without much hassle.

Remove the ads and processing for piracy sites and the sites don't appear on Google or not there. Profit from traffic is the real cause of piracy.

DamianJ · 12-22-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Exactly. Sites like PornHub and Extreme Board could still reasonably lose 80% of their U.S. traffic. And that's just fine by me. Another bonus is that Google might have to de-list them. And, again, I don't know about you all but I won't be shedding any tears for them.

are you saying US people are too stupid to put in 68.178.42.187 rather than pornhub.com

?

rowan · 12-22-2011, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Not sure I understand his logic. He created a method to circumvent the law to prove the law won't work. What's he going to do next, kill someone to prove that homicide laws don't work

It's probably more to prove that blocking via DNS is an incredibly weak technical solution.

The workaround to the workaround: wait until ISPs start blocking queries to external DNS servers, forcing their customers to use their own local (filtered) servers...

NewNick · 12-22-2011, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Not sure I understand his logic. He created a method to circumvent the law to prove the law won't work. What's he going to do next, kill someone to prove that homicide laws don't work?

Is any law or regulation air tight? There are laws against child pornography being on the internet, yet people still find ways to do it. Nobody is suggesting child pornography laws are pointless, yet that's the logic in that article.

Exactly. Not legislating because you cannot be sure that the problem will be completely eradicated is patent nonsense.

I cannot think of many laws that are 100% successful in removing a problem completely. That is not the point.

The point is that offenders are punished and stopped from gaining from the crime wherever possible.

Or shall we all just carry on trying to adapt to a lawless situation where adapting actually means joining in the free for all.

Paul Markham · 12-22-2011, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

are you saying US people are too stupid to put in 68.178.42.187 rather than pornhub.com

?

Which is why hitting the advertisers on the site makes more sense. Piracy is about traffic, it's got nothing to do with sharing or freeing up the Internet or what ever, that's the side line. Piracy exists because traffic pays for it. Take out the paymasters and the sites come down. Pirate-bay made millions on selling adverts.

Take out the adverts and the processors, then the sites are running at a loss.

If SOPA doesn't work, something else will come in. Pirates are in the cross hairs, they will dodge a few bullets and get smashed by a cruise missile.

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Exactly. Not legislating because you cannot be sure that the problem will be completely eradicated is patent nonsense.

I cannot think of many laws that are 100% successful in removing a problem completely. That is not the point.

The point is that offenders are punished and stopped from gaining from the crime wherever possible.

Or shall we all just carry on trying to adapt to a lawless situation where adapting actually means joining in the free for all.

But many use this excuse to argue against the law. Pointless argument because of what you pointed out.

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