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theking · 01-03-2012, 10:46 PM

...to win anything just passed him by.

BIGTYMER · 01-03-2012, 10:55 PM

To win anything? He got elected didn't he? And he's been in office for a long time. So saying win anything is not true.

kane · 01-03-2012, 11:03 PM

He is almost certainly done in the presidential election. His only real hope is that he can raise enough money to hang on until Feb and March when they split the delegates up by the percentage of the vote you brought in then make some strong showings there, but likely he is done.

Coup · 01-03-2012, 11:04 PM

ron paul sucks

TampaToker · 01-03-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

He is almost certainly done in the presidential election. His only real hope is that he can raise enough money to hang on until Feb and March when they split the delegates up by the percentage of the vote you brought in then make some strong showings there, but likely he is done.

Sucks to because he is the only one in the bunch worth a shit

Jakez · 01-03-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

ron paul sucks

Who are you going for? Aren't you anti-government? He wants to shrink their size, so why would you not support that over the other people that could be elected?

raymor · 01-03-2012, 11:14 PM

The two leaders got 24.5% each, Paul got 21.5%, so he's three points from the top.

I've say he's still viable for another week. He has to place within a percent or two of the top in New Hampshire, though.

BIGTYMER · 01-03-2012, 11:17 PM

Robbie · 01-03-2012, 11:18 PM

Hell, EVERY media outlet (Fox, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC) on cable have spent the last week saying over and over again that IF you vote for Ron Paul you wasted your vote.

Sounds to me like a lot of establishment people do not want him in.

Or as he said himself...his "dangerous idea of obeying the Constitution"

kane · 01-03-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Sucks to because he is the only one in the bunch worth a shit

If nothing else Paul was/is not afraid to be honest and speak his mind. Some of his ideas are little bit out there, but he is right about a lot of stuff. The problem is people really don't want change (at least not like he is offering) so many voters dismiss him and don't want to have anything to do with him because of that.

He could still make a run, but IMO to do so he will need to raise a bunch of cash, accept that he can't win NH, SC or Florida and focus on the states that come after that. He could do better in the upcoming states that use the caucus system because it will allow his passionate supporters to speak at hopefully convince others to vote for him. With the splitting of the delegates he is still in the game, but now he is way back on the bench and will need a home run soon.

kane · 01-03-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor

The two leaders got 24.5% each, Paul got 21.5%, so he's three points from the top.

I've say he's still viable for another week. He has to place within a percent or two of the top in New Hampshire, though.

Which likely is not going to happen. The most recent polls show him running second in NH, but 22 points behind Romney. He could finish second, but that won't help him much. He is also way back in South Carolina and Florida. Now it comes down to how well he will be able to compete when they move in the phase where the delegates from each state are split up among the candidates.

theking · 01-03-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

To win anything? He got elected didn't he? And he's been in office for a long time. So saying win anything is not true.

It is my understanding that he is not going to run for Congress again...and I do not expect him to win in any other states...so yes his first and last chance to win anything just passed him by...and that is just my opinion of course

raymor · 01-03-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor

The two leaders got 24.5% each, Paul got 21.5%, so he's three points from the top.

I've say he's still viable for another week. He has to place within a percent or two of the top in New Hampshire, though.

Scratch that. I just looked at his New Hampshire and South Carolina poll numbers. He's dead unless Donna Rice shows up to knock out Romney or Santorum. Even then, Clinton's campaign survived Gennifer Flowers.

raymor · 01-03-2012, 11:35 PM

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Are you hoping for change yet?

AAB · 01-04-2012, 12:45 AM

I don't think you Americans are ready for a decent president. It would confuse you to have someone who takes the office to work for you, not for his pals. You best stick with that mule Obama or the likes.

BIGTYMER · 01-04-2012, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

Are you hoping for change yet?

I'm praying for real change. Just not the change Obama is offering. I regret voting for him.

baddog · 01-04-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hell, EVERY media outlet (Fox, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC) on cable have spent the last week saying over and over again that IF you vote for Ron Paul you wasted your vote.

They were right. Of course the same could be said about Romney or Santorum as well.

IllTestYourGirls · 01-04-2012, 02:42 AM

He just won most of the delgates... You may want to check into that....

IllTestYourGirls · 01-04-2012, 02:55 AM

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-p...trategy-201201

Shotsie · 01-04-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Or as he said himself...his "dangerous idea of obeying the Constitution"

Ron Paul seems to think the constitution was carved in stone and handed down to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The constitution is a living document, as it was intented to be by the men who wrote; this is why there has been 27 amendments added to it over the years. James Madison and Thomas Jefferson debated the idea that each generation of Americans should write its own constitution. Ron Paul would like to keep us stuck in the 18th century. He's good for political discourse and not much else.

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Originally Posted by kane

If nothing else Paul was/is not afraid to be honest and speak his mind. Some of his ideas are little bit out there, but he is right about a lot of stuff. The problem is people really don't want change (at least not like he is offering) so many voters dismiss him and don't want to have anything to do with him because of that.

You're right, Most people don't want the kind of change that he's offering. Ron Paul's ideas are the exact oposite of the ones Obama got elected on, and frankly, most of them are downright fucking dangerous and regressive. He wants to roll back the progress made over the last hundred years to an obsolete time, divide people instead of bringing them together; make them hate, fear, suspect each other. For there is no "we" in Ron Paul's vision for America, there is only "I". This is what the corporations, the banks, the mortgage lenders, insurance companies all want. They fear even two people getting together because from there "I lost my house" is changed; a cell is split and from its splitting grows the thing they hate "We lostour houses." The danger is there, for two men are not as lonely and perplexed as one. And from this first "we" there grows a still more dangerous thing: "I have a little food" plus "I have none." If from this problem the sum is "We have a little food" the thing is on its way, the movement has direction. Only a little multiplication now, and we're getting somewhere. OWS had it and they blew it.

baddog · 01-04-2012, 03:19 AM

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http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-p...trategy-201201

That is exactly why all he does is make sure Obama gets a 2nd term.

IllTestYourGirls · 01-04-2012, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

That is exactly why all he does is make sure Obama gets a 2nd term.

Well besides the fact all polls showing he and Romney are the only ones with a shot of beating Obama and the fact that he beats Obama with the indies.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-04-2012, 06:52 AM

Bus leaves at 16:00 tomorrow ...

nation-x · 01-04-2012, 06:59 AM

Ron Paul will be in the race until at least June (or the nomination has been wrapped up)... mark my words.

calvinawe · 01-04-2012, 07:07 AM

whenever i see Ron Paul i immediately think "hey it's the guy who was hit on by Brüno". i can't let it go.

Coup · 01-04-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Who are you going for?

rick santorum

cherrylula · 01-04-2012, 08:10 AM

Why do people always say that they are only running to get someone else elected... lol...

I don't think he is campaigning and running for President just to get Obama elected. I think he'd like to win. LOL

Yeah lol he is obama's boy what a favor...

grumpy · 01-04-2012, 08:31 AM

i have never seen such a lineup of wackos running for presidency ( republicans )

sheken · 01-04-2012, 08:43 AM

Ron Paul's ideas are populist and dangerous for the future of the US. There are two things I don't agree on with him:

1. His stance on religion. He's hardcore Christian and he wants to take us back hundreds of years. The Founding Fathers were more enlightened than him when it came to religion.

2. Limiting the influence of the US around the world. That is the first step towards decline and it shouldn't be taken. Most of the people I hear have this utopian vision that somehow we should all love one another and hold hands and have world peace. Things just don't work that way. The only thing commanding respect is brute force which the US has. Yes, the US is the big bully and it's natural for them to intimidate, scare, coerce, etc, in order to pursue their own interests.

If you believe otherwise, how do you think Russia or China would act if they would have been the only superpower ? You think they would have decided to stay at home and not wield their power to obtain what they want ? Think again, out there it's every man for himself and consider yourself lucky you are on the side that's winning...for now

stocktrader23 · 01-04-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

i have never seen such a lineup of wackos running for presidency ( republicans )

raymor · 01-04-2012, 11:37 AM

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The constitution is a living document, as it was intented to be by the men who wrote; this is why there has been 27 amendments added to it over the years.

Cool. That's the first time I've ever heard someone who uses the phrase "living document" acknowledge that there is a procedure for changing the Constitution. Every other time I've heard that phrase it was being used to imply that we should basically ignore the Constitution, just pretend that it says whatever you'd like it to say that day, and that judges especially should make it up as they go along.

porno jew · 01-04-2012, 03:38 PM

he actually won. the voting machines were hacked.

Napolean · 01-04-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

That is exactly why all he does is make sure Obama gets a 2nd term.

Ironically, that same attitude contributes just as much. If not more, to making sure Obama gets a second term.

It's like a reverse bystander effect. Instead of offering to help the guy stranded on the highway with a broke down car, we drive by assuming that because it's a busy road, someone is bound to help him any second. It's not necessary that "I" stop.

In this case, we assume that we're wasting our vote because nobody else is going to vote the same way. The fact is however, that 34% would be a majority and if no one considered their vote wasted if they voted for who they liked most, the outcome could likely be in their favor.

porno jew · 01-04-2012, 05:03 PM

even when ron paul loses, he still wins. ron paul 2012.

kane · 01-04-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Napolean

Ironically, that same attitude contributes just as much. If not more, to making sure Obama gets a second term.

It's like a reverse bystander effect. Instead of offering to help the guy stranded on the highway with a broke down car, we drive by assuming that because it's a busy road, someone is bound to help him any second. It's not necessary that "I" stop.

In this case, we assume that we're wasting our vote because nobody else is going to vote the same way. The fact is however, that 34% would be a majority and if no one considered their vote wasted if they voted for who they liked most, the outcome could likely be in their favor.

If people really felt this way we could easily have a legitimate 3rd party in this country, but so many people either don't vote or won't bother to vote for 3rd party candidates because they feel like their vote doesn't count that things never really change.

Napolean · 01-04-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

If people really felt this way we could easily have a legitimate 3rd party in this country, but so many people either don't vote or won't bother to vote for 3rd party candidates because they feel like their vote doesn't count that things never really change.

Even when people are aware of the influence something like the Bystander Effect has on them, they are still influenced by it.

Strap On Princess · 01-04-2012, 05:58 PM

Does any of this really matter anyways. Whoever takes office it won't matter life goes on. They make their silly rules and then the next one changes it all so what.

$5 submissions · 01-04-2012, 06:00 PM

Win or lose, he already CHANGED the discourse.

Remember, he set the path for the TEA PARTY movement. Once America decides to go down the road to ruin (like it's been doing), Ron Paul's Vision will become even more relevant.

Ron Paul is planting seeds.

Expect the harvest in the future. Not necessarily by him. Nor even by Rand Paul. But SOMEONE will reap the harvest of that message in the future because the GAME HAS CHANGED at that point.

The day of reckoning WILL come because the current system is just PLAIN UNSUSTAINABLE.

You can take these words to the BANK!

porno jew · 01-04-2012, 06:03 PM

YES even when RON PAUL loses he WINS! What an AMAZING man!

pornmasta · 01-04-2012, 06:44 PM

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nnweb · 01-05-2012, 01:41 AM

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rick santorum

last thing this country needs is another fucking jesus freak who talks to god.

raymor · 01-05-2012, 02:41 AM

There were some things to like about Ron Paul. Certainly a Paul presidency would have been INTERESTING. I think anyone who has been paying attention at all would agree he's DIFFERENT from any other contender we've ever had.

For some reason, he attracted the "Coast to Coast" crowd, the conspiracy theorists, the people who like to talk about UFOs. I think those supporters made.him appear to be even further out of the mainstream than he really was. That may have turned some people off. When you say aliens are coming, the world will end in December 2012, and Ron Paul should be president, I think a lot of people assume that Ron Paul is about as serious as the Mayan calendar - silliness, in their opinion. That's unfortunate.

Now I have to go try to find some accurate, unbiased information about Santorum.

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raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	The two leaders got 24.5% each, Paul got 21.5%, so he's three points from the top. I've say he's still viable for another week. He has to place within a percent or two of the top in New Hampshire, though. Last edited by raymor; 01-03-2012 at 11:17 PM..

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BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	To win anything? He got elected didn't he? And he's been in office for a long time. So saying win anything is not true.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	He is almost certainly done in the presidential election. His only real hope is that he can raise enough money to hang on until Feb and March when they split the delegates up by the percentage of the vote you brought in then make some strong showings there, but likely he is done.

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AAB Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Alberta Posts: 874	I don't think you Americans are ready for a decent president. It would confuse you to have someone who takes the office to work for you, not for his pals. You best stick with that mule Obama or the likes.

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nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	Ron Paul will be in the race until at least June (or the nomination has been wrapped up)... mark my words.

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calvinawe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: AWE hq Posts: 786	whenever i see Ron Paul i immediately think "hey it's the guy who was hit on by Brüno". i can't let it go. __________________ yep.

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Why do people always say that they are only running to get someone else elected... lol... I don't think he is campaigning and running for President just to get Obama elected. I think he'd like to win. LOL Yeah lol he is obama's boy what a favor...

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sheken Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 135	Ron Paul's ideas are populist and dangerous for the future of the US. There are two things I don't agree on with him: 1. His stance on religion. He's hardcore Christian and he wants to take us back hundreds of years. The Founding Fathers were more enlightened than him when it came to religion. 2. Limiting the influence of the US around the world. That is the first step towards decline and it shouldn't be taken. Most of the people I hear have this utopian vision that somehow we should all love one another and hold hands and have world peace. Things just don't work that way. The only thing commanding respect is brute force which the US has. Yes, the US is the big bully and it's natural for them to intimidate, scare, coerce, etc, in order to pursue their own interests. If you believe otherwise, how do you think Russia or China would act if they would have been the only superpower ? You think they would have decided to stay at home and not wield their power to obtain what they want ? Think again, out there it's every man for himself and consider yourself lucky you are on the side that's winning...for now

01-04-2012, 03:38 PM	#32
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	he actually won. the voting machines were hacked.

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porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	even when ron paul loses, he still wins. ron paul 2012.

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$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Win or lose, he already CHANGED the discourse. Remember, he set the path for the TEA PARTY movement. Once America decides to go down the road to ruin (like it's been doing), Ron Paul's Vision will become even more relevant. Ron Paul is planting seeds. Expect the harvest in the future. Not necessarily by him. Nor even by Rand Paul. But SOMEONE will reap the harvest of that message in the future because the GAME HAS CHANGED at that point. The day of reckoning WILL come because the current system is just PLAIN UNSUSTAINABLE. You can take these words to the BANK! __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants Last edited by $5 submissions; 01-04-2012 at 06:01 PM..

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porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	YES even when RON PAUL loses he WINS! What an AMAZING man!

01-05-2012, 02:41 AM	#42
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	There were some things to like about Ron Paul. Certainly a Paul presidency would have been INTERESTING. I think anyone who has been paying attention at all would agree he's DIFFERENT from any other contender we've ever had. For some reason, he attracted the "Coast to Coast" crowd, the conspiracy theorists, the people who like to talk about UFOs. I think those supporters made.him appear to be even further out of the mainstream than he really was. That may have turned some people off. When you say aliens are coming, the world will end in December 2012, and Ron Paul should be president, I think a lot of people assume that Ron Paul is about as serious as the Mayan calendar - silliness, in their opinion. That's unfortunate. Now I have to go try to find some accurate, unbiased information about Santorum. Last edited by raymor; 01-05-2012 at 02:43 AM..