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		 Would like to hear some answers to this as well...I've just had mine set at the default length. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i put mine at max length to increase time on site. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 though that's not helping sales. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'm afraid 3 mins also not helping sales - they say "FUCKOFFIWANTTOJERKOFFNOWMYWEENERISHARDASROCKANDYO  UAREMESSINGWITHYOURADVERTISEMENTSINSTEADSHOWINGMEF  REEFREEFREEPORNANDICANTJERKFUCKOFFIWILLGOTOCHATURB  ATETOMASTURBATEBECAUSEYOURTUBESITESUCKSWITH3MINVID  EOSFUCKOFFBANNEDFORLIFE" or something in the case... Or I'm thinking too much about visitors?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Aren't they adding a way where you can sell your traffic from your hosted tubes? I wouldn't mind if it got any sales or not if you could sell traffic. I just put these tubes on domains I bought that sounded good at the time but realized they were shit...so I turn them into a tube. Hell if they made 1 sale a month or could sell $10 worth of traffic every month I would be happy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 But it should help once Traffic Force is on them  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Maximum length......maximum 10 videos....... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 1 sale a year = $35 profit = $27 1000 domains = less than $8000 1 sale a year = $35 000 profit = $27 000 10 000 domains = less than $80 000 1 sale a year = $350 000 profit = $270 000 
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		 Traffic Force is being tested on Hostedtube.com right now, we're very close to going Public with it, just a few little kinks to work out here and there, looking good for this week tho. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 trafficforce.com explains it well.  As for the integration we will explain all the details once we launch. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Of course I can. Once Traffic Force is fully working with Hosted Tube, we will sell your ads for you on all your tubes, we take care of everything. We market your ads to our Advertisers, we have a bidding system to encourage competition for traffic which in turn makes you guys more money. You get 50% of ALL revenue your tube generates in Traffic Force. What's more, you don't need a Traffic Force account to get paid, we post all the info to PIMPROLL for you and you get paid in your normal webmaster check. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	A little bit more about Traffic Force below. Traffic Force is our ad system we use to sell traffic on our network of sites. We started building the system with Hosted Tube in mind about 18 months ago now. After a 3 month beta testing period we launched to everyone in September 2011. We have 508 advertisers currently and serve over 2.5 billion ad impressions every month. Fully self managed, Traffic Force allows you to bid for ad impressions on our sites such as Porn.com, Mobile.porn.com and mporn.com amongst others. With tools like Geo and Time targeting, you can ensure you are buying traffic from countries you can monetize the traffic from, as well as at times of the day when you know you can squeeze the most sales out of your advertising budget. We deliver real time statistics to you in your user interface that allows you to keep track of your traffic and get up to the minute data to ensure you make profits. Real time account funding via Paxum and Paypal also ensures you won't ever run out of funds. We initially tested Traffic Force for 7 months in house while developing it, to make sure it worked the way we needed it to. It has many many features that make your life that little bit easier. We are still working on the system to make it even better, we have 3 huge features being developed right now that will be announced mid February that are sure to make our Advertisers very happy. If anyone wants further info about Traffic Force, my contact information is in my sig, I'd be only too happy to talk to you and give you run down on our traffic levels on certain sites and give any advice needed to get campaigns going.  | 
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		 anyhoo people going for the full length vids ot what length mostly? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'm wondering what the traffic will sell for once Traffic Force is integrated. Can't wait! I think that will be the better solution for most people than trying to achieve sales, though a couple people have said they've been able to get some sales. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	Firstly. PJ it's not about the length of the videos, it's about the content in that clip. Was it shot specifically as a clip to advertise the site, entice the visitor to click on the link and go see the tour. Or is it just a few minutes from the scene and relying only on getting someone interested enough to bother to look at the link. Before he goes to jerk off to the next one? Once you have the traffic it's reliant on the content to grab the attention and interest of the viewer enough to go see the site. Otherwise it's purely a numbers game throwing 1,000s of people at a clip in the hope one will eventually buy. Or the traffic will sell for you at a few dollars per 1,000. Seeing how some of you seen happy with this. I seriously wonder why you think you can criticise me. Because if that's what you traffic gurus are reduced to, then traffic isn't king. Unless it's king of a bankrupt kingdom.  | 
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	Here's an idea Ross that might get a few sales to your sites rather than turn one of your sites into a free tube selling ad space. Spend a few hours watching a program like Hollywood on set, see how they promote a film. By interviews, clips and comments. Then spend a few hours watching how these mainstream movies put trailors together, cutting the best bits, putting in the names of the actors and other relevant things pertaining to the film. Maybe location, director, budget, actions, etc. Then sit in a room with a laptop and write down how these models can be used as a promotion to your sites. Ending up with what you want the shooters to give you purely as a promotion tool to your site the scene or scenes shot on that day will work. Naturally the shooter has final say on the model or models who will be best to do the promotional work required. Think in terms of people coming to your free tube to just jerk off for free and what it will take to get them to watch the actual trailor and then hit the link to see more. Then build up a library of these on the sites you feel this will suit best. The idea is to rely less on traffic numbers and a lot more on selling. Lastly imagine this idea came from Shap or some other Bro rather than me. Who has lasted so long and amused so many.  | 
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 So to teach you a lesson and make you look stupid, here's what is right. If I take the best content and promote the best site I will do better than taking the worse content and promoting the worse site. If you take the best content and promote the best site you will do better than taking the worse content and promoting the worse site. Once you have the traffic on your site, it's about the content they see there that puts the final cherry on the cake. Yes your skills at getting traffic are better than mine. Still having something that will turn that traffic into a buyer, is what this game is about. This idea will cost affiliates nothing. Sponsors might have to get shooters who can do this, but it's not rocket science. I was doing it 20 years ago. All it takes is some fore thought and selection of the best models to do it. Now the question is would you like promotional content that converts 10% than you already have?  | 
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 But since it's impossible to tell without testing, Id look at Analytics and use a couple of domains to test or check back on this thread 
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 Ive seen that lower quality pics/video with an attractive girl or good hardcore content converts better because the surfer might think "Hey this is good, but I want to see it in HD" which is why I posted what I did... Plus I promote with thousands of longtails so that makes a difference being micro niche as opposed to porn quality.. 
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		 that's a completely different product.  People don't go to the theatre to alleviate sexual impulses, not compared to what we are selling, so comparing the two is nonsense. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Hey man, I think we're both right in different ways. You produce content and of course quality content is what makes money since people surfing to big name sites expect the best, good lighting/video quality, consistent girls and updates, new content, etc.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I have heard two schools of thought with regards to setting video lengths and both sound like they can be useful.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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