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Old 04-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Blackwater Bringing Freedom to Iraq

Warning: After 2m 30s a woman is accidentally run over, it's your choice whether to watch that or not

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A couple of years ago they had a video of Blackwater snipers on a rooftop shooting "sandnigers" ... They were wearing Army pants or jeans, tshirts and baseball caps. They even had their own unmarked helicopter resupplying them.


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A couple of years ago they had a video of Blackwater snipers on a rooftop shooting "sandnigers" ... They were wearing Army pants or jeans, tshirts and baseball caps. They even had their own unmarked helicopter resupplying them.

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I haven't seen that one, it's no wonder they had to change their name
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That's a good point Ray, we would need to see 100's of videos to get a proper overview
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A few years ago Vanity Fair had a great article about what a "contractor" really was. It had nothing to do with construction. lol. Featured Blackwater and their high speed, stop for nothing, shoot anything alongside the road, trips thru Iraq.

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A few years ago Vanity Fair had a great article about what a "contractor" really was. It had nothing to do with construction. lol. Featured Blackwater and their high speed, stop for nothing, shoot anything alongside the road, trips thru Iraq.

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Thanks for that, I'll do a Google
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Thanks for that, I'll do a Google
When they needed gas they would pull into a station without waiting in the long lines, at gunpoint push cars out of the way, fill up and drive off. Seems stopping in public for any reason was a death wish. A contractor stated they were pissing off every civilian but for safety sake couldn't do it any other way.

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I think the hoodie the lady was wearing is as much at fault for her death as Black
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1) Most americans have no clue as to how their troops behave outside the USA nor what their foreign policy REALLY does to a region. Lets face in the US army is not exactly ones first choice in life, it is more of a human dustbin that collects people who could not make a living any other way except for being a hired mercenary.

2) Most americans will agree that their government is corrupt and unfair. But they will not extend that thought on their foreign policy and how it affects non Americans in an even more negative way.

3) Most countries in the world do not have the high crime rate that the USA has. Most countries in the world do not have cripps/blooods/ms13 or 3% of the population in prison. Americans will never admit it.

4) Most americans feel that they actually have a "right" to invade other countries.


Now there are so many things wrong with this video. An invading drop out from the other side of the planet, invades your country because of lies, after his invading country has kept your economy under sanctions for 20 years, and "secures" your countries natural resources, and then just treats you like shit and rams you off the road and runs over your citizens....

Freedom has NEVER been further from Iraq...The invaders just have good marketing and make it seem like a humanitarian mission even when they are flat out running pedestrians over in the street


Nothing against americans, I do not live under the illusion that they have any control over their government or that they have any ill will towards the world...
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1) Most americans have no clue as to how their troops behave outside the USA nor what their foreign policy REALLY does to a region. Lets face in the US army is not exactly ones first choice in life, it is more of a human dustbin that collects people who could not make a living any other way except for being a hired mercenary.

2) Most americans will agree that their government is corrupt and unfair. But they will not extend that thought on their foreign policy and how it affects non Americans in an even more negative way.

3) Most countries in the world do not have the high crime rate that the USA has. Most countries in the world do not have cripps/blooods/ms13 or 3% of the population in prison. Americans will never admit it.

4) Most americans feel that they actually have a "right" to invade other countries.


Now there are so many things wrong with this video. An invading drop out from the other side of the planet, invades your country because of lies, after his invading country has kept your economy under sanctions for 20 years, and "secures" your countries natural resources, and then just treats you like shit and rams you off the road and runs over your citizens....

Freedom has NEVER been further from Iraq...The invaders just have good marketing and make it seem like a humanitarian mission even when they are flat out running pedestrians over in the street


Nothing against americans, I do not live under the illusion that they have any control over their government or that they have any ill will towards the world...

Blackwater contractors are EX military not actual US soldiers. They are very well paid, don't have the same restrictions placed on US troops as far as dealing with the enemy or civilians. They are the back door approach to taking care of business in a way actual troops could never get away with.

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When they needed gas they would pull into a station without waiting in the long lines, at gunpoint push cars out of the way, fill up and drive off. Seems stopping in public for any reason was a death wish. A contractor stated they were pissing off every civilian but for safety sake couldn't do it any other way.

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Can definitely see that these guys would be mad to stop given the hatred there must be for them
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I think the hoodie the lady was wearing is as much at fault for her death as Black
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Yeah, she didn't even look, just walked out
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Blackwater contractors are EX military not actual US soldiers. They are very well paid, don't have the same restrictions placed on US troops as far as dealing with the enemy or civilians. They are the back door approach to taking care of business in a way actual troops could never get away with.

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I beg to differ

I have personally seen cluster bombing of civilians, delayed clusters so that the wounded can not be pulled out, and no uniform around for 20 miles. The target was completely civilian and we had to roll cars and dumpsters to avoid the clusters to pull out wounded civilians. Cluster bombing civilians is against the Geneva convention.

Next to my town US soldiers burst in to a christian church, found a father and son in cloth (priests) and plain opened fire on them. They killed them both just for standing still and looking shocked.

I will not go in to the little things like how your soldiers behave on the streets towards women and other un-armed civilians because its trivial compared to their "war efforts" but let me confirm the following:

americans have no clue how their army really behaves...
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The invaders just have good marketing and make it seem like a humanitarian mission
That's a good post crucifissio, in particular I like the line you wrote above. The UN, USA, UK, EU etc are all experts in marketing. That's why Internet freedom is currently in the cross hairs.
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I have no first hand experience. My comments were based on the authors stated reasoning for why the need for contractors even existed.

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Americans are naive. They think when Obama says he's pulling troops out that everyone is leaving and the "war" was won. THIS is what is staying behind. Lots and lots of mercenaries. Private companies are replacing the troops and they are lawless. These crazy fuckers come to Thailand a lot when they get breaks from over there. Some of the stories a few of these guys have told me about the shit that is happening over there will make your skin crawl. Those guys live for shit like that.

But enough of that nonsense, Americans are just hated for their freedom.
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Blackwater, making money hand over fist.

$45 for every employee meal (3x $1 vacuum packs per day poured out onto a tray), $20 per gallon of gas, $800 uniform grant per employee every 6 months (cost to the company, about $20)... $150,000 salaries and and on and on.
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Blackwater, making money hand over fist.

$45 for every employee meal (3x $1 vacuum packs per day poured out onto a tray), $20 per gallon of gas, $800 uniform grant per employee every 6 months (cost to the company, about $20)... $150,000 salaries and and on and on.
It will later be renamed to "Aid" now it is called "Rebuilding". At the end of the year, if they have a surplus of $$$ in their accounts they go in to a spending frenzy...why? because if they do not spend all their money intended for that year they get less next year there is a lot of money on the table, a lot of interests and a lot of "bro" deals go on...

Later when Iraq is more "Free" they will turn to another type of scam, the bank scam. Many people in Iraq have their own property and apartments that can be used as collateral for tricking the Iraquis in to some "Easy cash". It is first done on a government level where anything that is profitable is "loan sharked" and a few people in the Iraqui puppet government get to make mucho $$$$ at the huge expense of the economy (Look at what happened in the USA) and then the scam will move to a private level where citizens will get to "Free" their property to US firms...has happened in my country, we were 10 years before Iraq I know whats next
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I beg to differ

I have personally seen cluster bombing of civilians, delayed clusters so that the wounded can not be pulled out, and no uniform around for 20 miles. The target was completely civilian and we had to roll cars and dumpsters to avoid the clusters to pull out wounded civilians. Cluster bombing civilians is against the Geneva convention.

Next to my town US soldiers burst in to a christian church, found a father and son in cloth (priests) and plain opened fire on them. They killed them both just for standing still and looking shocked.

I will not go in to the little things like how your soldiers behave on the streets towards women and other un-armed civilians because its trivial compared to their "war efforts" but let me confirm the following:

americans have no clue how their army really behaves...
Yea american soldiers are terrible.

Take a look at all the dictators around the world who terrorized their own countries for years and years. People like Castro, Saddam Hussein etc. People who took over entire countries killing at will. This is nothing compared to that. This is war. War makes people do things and see things that human's should not have to deal with or see. Crazy shit happens. This is nothing compared to what happened in places like Vietnam, Korea etc. Except there were no camera phones then or the same kind of media we have now.

Give me a break with this America is terrible crap. We might pay high taxes and get semi fucked by our government, but it beats the hell out of living in almost every other place on the earth.
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Went right over your head huh?

Obviously not
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where citizens will get to "Free" their property to US firms...has happened in my country, we were 10 years before Iraq I know whats next
crucifissio,

If you get the chance I'd be interested to know more detail on what you've said there
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Yea american soldiers are terrible.

Take a look at all the dictators around the world who terrorized their own countries for years and years. People like Castro, Saddam Hussein etc.
The USA put Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq by the way.
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Off the top of my head I'm going to guess thats because she did not expect a bunch of psychopaths to be driving the wrong way down a one way street.

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Off the top of my head I'm going to guess thats because she did not expect a bunch of psychopaths to be driving the wrong way down a one way street.
Personally I always look both ways, but like you say some people only look in the direction where they expect to see traffic.

Another relevant point is that Muslims and some Jews believe that it is written when you will die, that you cannot influence the date. I knew a Muslim guy who regularly danced with death as he crossed the road, he was completely confident that he would not die unless it was written that he would die. In Israel there are more road deaths in the ultra-religious areas
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Didn't a group of them drug and rape one of their own employees and were so rough with her they broke an implant or something? Or maybe that was some group subcontracting under them. All I know is she went before Congress about the incident
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When they needed gas they would pull into a station without waiting in the long lines, at gunpoint push cars out of the way, fill up and drive off. Seems stopping in public for any reason was a death wish. A contractor stated they were pissing off every civilian but for safety sake couldn't do it any other way.

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It's not like they have to be there.
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It's not like they have to be there.
You're right they are there for the money only. Big bucks compared to regular soldiers.

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im sorry, this is the video they choose to show as 'so outrageous'?

a traffic accident?
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The USA put Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq by the way.
.. and killed way less civilians then the USA has .... but they had WMD ...
sorry ... they " hated your freedoms " ....
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Those Blackwater people are the worst. They don't even qualify as people. I hope they all die of ass cancer, but that would probably be too good for them.
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Those Blackwater people are the worst. They don't even qualify as people. I hope they all die of ass cancer, but that would probably be too good for them.
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I wonder if there's even one of those guys who has a conscience and tries to keep his boys in line. I'm sure if there was a guy like that, he'd be ostracized, or killed.
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Maybe she wanted to meet Allah.
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Including the OP the majority of people posting in this thread are ignorant and full of pigshit.
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Including the OP the majority of people posting in this thread are ignorant and full of pigshit.
Making that statement isn't much use to anyone, you'd actually have to get involved in the debate and prove your point with your knowledge and wisdom. Otherwise it just seems like you're offended and don't know how to effectively respond in an educated manner
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Making that statement isn't much use to anyone, you'd actually have to get involved in the debate and prove your point with your knowledge and wisdom. Otherwise it just seems like you're offended and don't know how to effectively respond in an educated manner
I do not feel the need to...and do not have an interest in...debate to prove any point to the ignorant...loonies or trolls...thank you very much. The statement was made as an observation.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:44 AM   #43
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The statement was made as an observation.
It only counts as a belief if it can't be backed up
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It only counts as a belief if it can't be backed up
It is not a belief...it is an observation.
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It is belief you have acquired through observation and interpretation.
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It will later be renamed to "Aid" now it is called "Rebuilding". At the end of the year, if they have a surplus of $$$ in their accounts they go in to a spending frenzy...why? because if they do not spend all their money intended for that year they get less next year there is a lot of money on the table, a lot of interests and a lot of "bro" deals go on...

Later when Iraq is more "Free" they will turn to another type of scam, the bank scam. Many people in Iraq have their own property and apartments that can be used as collateral for tricking the Iraquis in to some "Easy cash". It is first done on a government level where anything that is profitable is "loan sharked" and a few people in the Iraqui puppet government get to make mucho $$$$ at the huge expense of the economy (Look at what happened in the USA) and then the scam will move to a private level where citizens will get to "Free" their property to US firms...has happened in my country, we were 10 years before Iraq I know whats next


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Countdown until the delusional King comes in and says Pigshit. He still believes the US government doesn't pay for the private military companies.

I doubt he even served to begin with. No one as bat shit crazy and delusional as him should ever be given a weapon.

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A lot of them come to Pattaya, Thailand for breaks. They are INSANE. Most of them stay in one hotel that caters to those types. They all sit on the front porch exchanging stories with each other. I need to hidden cam video that shit because it's stuff you not only can't think of, but shit you just refuse to believe. Horrible, horrible stuff. And they discuss it like they are talking about baseball.

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Including the OP the majority of people posting in this thread are ignorant and full of pigshit.
There he is.

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crucifissio,

If you get the chance I'd be interested to know more detail on what you've said there
Oh that's easy, cripple the region with decades of bombs and economic sanctions and war, install puppet government after invasion, take US tax payers money and call it "Aid" and get the desperate politicians to do what ever the fuck you want.

Now come the US companies and take over everything for pennies. Keep in mind the whole point of this is not to make the USA rich, it is only to make individuals rich in the US gov. and the local puppet politicians. Now the newest trick is to get corrupt politicians to actually fund US projects with LOCAL MONEY Lets say US company X wants to "rebuild" a road, the money for the rebuild is loaned from the bank with local collateral, the road gets built below every possible standard, all the prices are over-inflated to fuck, and even the workers are "Bros" of the local politicians. The US company and the local puppet politician get fat pockets, the locals are left with a shit road that will need to be rebuilt again next year and debt that also needs to be repayed.

Shit the US gov will put their own people in prison if they fail to pay tax, I have no idea why americans think their government is actually in the business of giving away "Aid" for free

War is great money for individuals in the US gov. and modern colonialism now has a new shape and form its called "liberation"
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Including the OP the majority of people posting in this thread are ignorant and full of pigshit.
You naturally have more insight and knowledge about US foreign policy than the people on the receiving end of your politics.

For christs sake LOL your "bros" cant even afford to stop at a red light because everybody hates the living fuck out of them, I mean you MUST me right
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You naturally have more insight and knowledge about US foreign policy than the people on the receiving end of your politics.

For christs sake LOL your "bros" cant even afford to stop at a red light because everybody hates the living fuck out of them, I mean you MUST me right
theking is bat shit crazy. Pay no real attention to him. He pretends to be some military dude AND a dead guy at the same time.
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A lot of them come to Pattaya, Thailand for breaks. They are INSANE. Most of them stay in one hotel that caters to those types. They all sit on the front porch exchanging stories with each other. I need to hidden cam video that shit because it's stuff you not only can't think of, but shit you just refuse to believe. Horrible, horrible stuff. And they discuss it like they are talking about baseball.
The further a contractor is from seeing any action the more he talks when he is in the presence of others. you have to take what blabber mouths say with a pinch of salt, like the guy at the bar talking mma all day long. A lot of support staff, like mechanics like to talk a lot, makes them tough by association
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