Are you Red or Blue - GoFuckYourself.com

Choker · 05-04-2012, 09:21 AM

I am going to guess that most of you guys are blue. You want the government to take care of you from cradle to grave. Truly astounding that any webmaster being a independent businessman can be blue.

L-Pink · 05-04-2012, 09:27 AM

NaughtyVisions · 05-04-2012, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

I am going to guess that most of you guys are blue. You want the government to take care of you from cradle to grave. Truly astounding that any webmaster being a independent businessman can be blue.

Nice generalization. I'm independent (lean left), but being "blue" doesn't necessarily mean I'm in favor of supporting the leeches that live off of public assistance for years. Help in a dire time of need is one thing, but I can't stand those who live their lives with their primary source of income being their welfare check. I'm sure plenty of "blues" feel the same way.

Since we're generalizing the issues, it can also be said that it's truly astounding that anyone who works in porn would be red.

Just sayin'...

Sly · 05-04-2012, 09:33 AM

I am purple.

KillerK · 05-04-2012, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

I am going to guess that most of you guys are blue. You want the government to take care of you from cradle to grave. Truly astounding that any webmaster being a independent businessman can be blue.

I think most are blue because they make less than $75k a year.

Otherwise they would be Red.

Rochard · 05-04-2012, 09:44 AM

I am what I am and I don't care what any of you are.

The truth is your picking between the lesser of two evils, and their interests are less in doing what's right for the general public and more interested in beating the other party.

We need to be done with this two party system.

Tom_PM · 05-04-2012, 09:48 AM

I don't understand what it means. I guess you mean to assert that democrats (blue) want to be taken care of by the government while republicans (red) dont?

Are you sure things are so cut and dry?

Choker · 05-04-2012, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Nice generalization. I'm independent (lean left), but being "blue" doesn't necessarily mean I'm in favor of supporting the leeches that live off of public assistance for years. Help in a dire time of need is one thing, but I can't stand those who live their lives with their primary source of income being their welfare check. I'm sure plenty of "blues" feel the same way.

Since we're generalizing the issues, it can also be said that it's truly astounding that anyone who works in porn would be red.

Just sayin'...

Glad you don't believe in a nanny state, but the guy you are voting for does and is doing everything possible to take our tax dollars to support lazy bums who expect the government to take care of them.

Tom_PM · 05-04-2012, 09:53 AM

If I go on welfare, foodstamps and medicaid from my state, it's from people including all the generations of my family as well as myself who paid into those systems. And in case you didn't know, there is a limit on how much you can collect in a lifetime anyway. 5 years if I recall. I've worked about 32 years now in my life paying into this shit. May I have some back if I need it please? How about my dead parents and grandparents who all paid into them? May I have some of it if I need it in your humble opinion? How about if I'm going to die from hunger, may someone help me out plz?

Who are these mythical beings who are born and die while being supported by the "government" 100% of the time? Are you sure they exist?

Choker · 05-04-2012, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I don't understand what it means. I guess you mean to assert that democrats (blue) want to be taken care of by the government while republicans (red) dont?

Are you sure things are so cut and dry?

Iregardless of your views when you vote blue you get a leader that is this cut and dry. Obama's record proves this. My views are not this cut and dry. Hell I liked what Clinton did for this country. But Obama has turned the US into a government dependent society. People insist now that they are "entitled" to a home, car, job, money in the bank, college education, etc iregardless if they have earned it or not.

Tom_PM · 05-04-2012, 10:00 AM

So in your opinion in the last 3 years it went from being not entitled, to entitled when the president doesnt pass laws anyway? Ok.

Choker · 05-04-2012, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

If I go on welfare, foodstamps and medicaid from my state, it's from people including all the generations of my family as well as myself who paid into those systems. And in case you didn't know, there is a limit on how much you can collect in a lifetime anyway. 5 years if I recall. I've worked about 32 years now in my life paying into this shit. May I have some back if I need it please? How about my dead parents and grandparents who all paid into them? May I have some of it if I need it in your humble opinion? How about if I'm going to die from hunger, may someone help me out plz?

Who are these mythical beings who are born and die while being supported by the "government" 100% of the time? Are you sure they exist?

Ah so not only are you "entitled" to get back what you paid in, you are "entitled" to get back what your ancestors paid in? 5 year limit? LOL, where are you getting your information from? I have no problem whatsoever with my tax dollars going to hungry children. But I have a problem with it being used to support people who are too lazy to get off their ass and get off the internet and go get a job. You can always tell who the bums are when a jobless person says "I'm online all day looking for a job". Not webmasters mind you, I'm refering to people who are looking for offline jobs.

BlackCrayon · 05-04-2012, 10:12 AM

oh please, like one is any better than the other. if anythign 'red' wants to control your personal life more than 'blue' and let the market run wild.

in canada the whole thing is flip flop...conservatives are 'blue'..liberals are 'red'.

Cherry7 · 05-04-2012, 10:31 AM

Charlie carrying the RED flag.

Most UK webmasters are Tories and even more right wing, The Tory government has just introduced restrictions on the porn industry.

Yes, if your right wing and work in porn you must be brain dead.

AdultDomains12 · 05-04-2012, 10:39 AM

I'm red man

CurrentlySober · 05-04-2012, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

It's all the same shit, just slightly different toilets

i like toilets...

red-xxx · 05-04-2012, 10:52 AM

I'm Red!

rogueteens · 05-04-2012, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Charlie carrying the RED flag.

Most UK webmasters are Tories and even more right wing, The Tory government has just introduced restrictions on the porn industry.

Yes, if your right wing and work in porn you must be brain dead.

Am i the only person let not to have you and your bizarre rantings on ignore?

LAJ · 05-04-2012, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-xxx

I'm Red!

I'm blue, always have been always will be... but for her I'd go red for an hour or two.

Spunky · 05-04-2012, 11:01 AM

I am Canadian

NaughtyVisions · 05-04-2012, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

It's all the same shit, just slightly different toilets

How about NOT imposing your will through force onto others? We learn that in kindergarten

I thought you didn't believe in schools or their "brainwashing tactics."

theking · 05-04-2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

Iregardless of your views when you vote blue you get a leader that is this cut and dry. Obama's record proves this. My views are not this cut and dry. Hell I liked what Clinton did for this country. But Obama has turned the US into a government dependent society. People insist now that they are "entitled" to a home, car, job, money in the bank, college education, etc iregardless if they have earned it or not.

The President " turned the US into a government dependent society"? This would make him the most amazing President in our history...and to have accomplished this in a mere three years is even more amazing...especially in light of the fact that the President cannot make law and does not control the purse strings.

I am not aware of a single person that "insists" that they are "entitled" to "a home, car, job, money in the bank, college education etc iregardless if they have earned it or not."

theking · 05-04-2012, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

Ah so not only are you "entitled" to get back what you paid in, you are "entitled" to get back what your ancestors paid in? 5 year limit? LOL, where are you getting your information from? I have no problem whatsoever with my tax dollars going to hungry children. But I have a problem with it being used to support people who are too lazy to get off their ass and get off the internet and go get a job. You can always tell who the bums are when a jobless person says "I'm online all day looking for a job". Not webmasters mind you, I'm refering to people who are looking for offline jobs.

Most states...if not all...only provide welfare checks to people that have children. Some states have a five year limit and some states have an eighteen month limit...but in fact limits were imposed during the Clinton years.

PR_Glen · 05-04-2012, 11:16 AM

i always get a good laugh at anyone in this industry that calls another a sheep...

none of us are, we all chose the unpopular road, we all went against the grain to get where we are and most of us have prospered from it in one form or another. Our political differences are petty nonsense compared to what we have done to go the other way.

You want sheep? find another board, we don't have any.

RubyGoodnight · 05-04-2012, 11:20 AM

arock10 · 05-04-2012, 11:22 AM

glad to see johnny found this thread

Is everyone forgetting that they are pushing porn? Are they forgetting which side appeals to evangelicals?

PR_Glen · 05-04-2012, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

I disagree. There are LOTS of sheep on this board. It's like a giant sheep pen at times

who cares what you think? you're a moron.

...but not a sheep

KillerK · 05-04-2012, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking

Most states...if not all...only provide welfare checks to people that have children. Some states have a five year limit and some states have an eighteen month limit...but in fact limits were imposed during the Clinton years.

That's a load of bs, I know of people who have been on it a lot longer than that. They also switch to disability and get that. Which pays even more.

arock10 · 05-04-2012, 11:33 AM

Ok, so how much money do these people on welfare receive from the government to help their lavish lifestyle? I can't seem to find any reliable sites with figures but everything I have seen seems awfully low... seeing between $200-$600 depending on family size per month.

Moose · 05-04-2012, 11:34 AM

History 101 Liberals and Conservatives

For those that don't know about history ... Here is a condensed version:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer
and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer
and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the
beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were
the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals, and
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of
agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet,
so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be
invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were
formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night
while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off
the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the
sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal
movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became
known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the
domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the
concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that
conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most
powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the
jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white
wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well
done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another
interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher
testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury
attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are
liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't
fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud. They eat red meat and still
provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys,
lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police
officers, corporate executives, athletes, members of the military, airline
pilots and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own
companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and
decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more
enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in
Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the
Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for
nothing.

theking · 05-04-2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK

That's a load of bs, I know of people who have been on it a lot longer than that. They also switch to disability and get that. Which pays even more.

Research the Wefare Reform Act signed into law by President Clinton and educate yourself. People that receive a Welfare check cannot "switch to disability" unless of course they are in fact they become disabled. In addition disability does not necessarily pay more and could in fact pay substantially less.

mikesouth · 05-04-2012, 11:42 AM

I am red white and blue thats why I am a Libertarian

if you are fucking stupid enough to think that the problems this country faces were brought on by either republicans or democrats and not both you are a complete moron.

got news for you Mitt and Obama are the same guy. deal with it.

The only out for this country is to CUT and I mean REALLY CUT government spending and limit government power.

Newt talked a good game but when he had his chance all he did was lie and spend

I say execute every fucking one of them for treason and start over.

seeandsee · 05-04-2012, 11:51 AM

i am more blue or red pill, shit reality or dream land...

kane · 05-04-2012, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking

Research the Wefare Reform Act signed into law by President Clinton and educate yourself. People that receive a Welfare check cannot "switch to disability" unless of course they are in fact they become disabled. In addition disability does not necessarily pay more and could in fact pay substantially less.

There are plenty of ways to game the system if you know what you are doing.

Several years ago I moved from LA back to Portland. I moved into this apartment and the lady that lived below me was on "disability". I got to know her and she had two kids. Her son was now 22 and her daughter that lived with her was 13. The son wasn't married, but lived with his girlfriend and she was knocked up.

Basically, this lady went on welfare when she got pregnant with her son. Several years later as the welfare was about to run out she got knocked up again. This time as her daughter got older she became "disabled" with anxiety so conveniently as her welfare and Section 8 were about to run out she "switched" to disability.

Here is the kicker. Once she was declared "disabled" her daughter started getting checks from Social Security. Then her son's girlfriend got on welfare and she helped her son get on disability for "anxiety." I can't remember for certain but I think the baby was getting checks too because the dad was "disabled."

Obviously, this is one of those cases that is not the norm, but it shows that there are plenty of ways to work the system if you know what you are doing.

spazlabz · 05-04-2012, 12:15 PM

I am what would have been called a 'pinko' back in the 50s. But specifically I am a social democrat registered to the democratic party

having said that I think for myself and dont follow any party lines but my view of the world and liberals tend to be similar

Cherry7 · 05-04-2012, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens

Am i the only person let not to have you and your bizarre rantings on ignore?

Who knows, you are the one who can't write.

u-Bob · 05-04-2012, 02:56 PM

Neither of those.

I'm a deontological libertarian. I deal with others by free exchange and voluntary choice.

Bill8 · 05-04-2012, 03:11 PM

OP, thats a childish and factually untrue characterization of the differences between democrats and republicans.

Typical of a republican, to turn everything into a cartoon, to deny complexity, and to use slurs and taunts instead of making any real arguments.

I've been self employed since I was 26 years old, and expect no significant help from the government other than to provide the basic protective services of policing road care education and the like.

Stop behaving like a child if you expect to be treated like an adult.

The ideological and governance differences between democrats and republicans are a matter for serious debate, not this silliness.

Choker · 05-04-2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK

I think most are blue because they make less than $75k a year.

Otherwise they would be Red.

I would say you are 100% correct

Elli · 05-04-2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Poverty was going to zero until the welfare state was implemented. Of course, if you have no poor people then you don't need a government so the government wants lots of poor people

Poverty was "going to zero?" What does this mean? What stat are you going by?

rogueteens · 05-04-2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Who knows, you are the one who can't write.

kane · 05-04-2012, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Poverty was going to zero until the welfare state was implemented. Of course, if you have no poor people then you don't need a government so the government wants lots of poor people

When exactly was this poverty rate going to zero? According the census the poverty rate in the US has between 12%-16% (with some dips up occasionally) since 1959. So was this near zero poverty rate before 1959?

BlackCrayon · 05-04-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

I would say you are 100% correct

so you're willing to let the 'reds' dictate how to live your life because you don't want to pay extra taxes? though the 'reds' never lower taxes any significant amount anyways. they are all talk and no action.

asdasd · 05-04-2012, 04:03 PM

I'm down with whatever

kane · 05-04-2012, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

so you're willing to let the 'reds' dictate how to live your life because you don't want to pay extra taxes? though the 'reds' never lower taxes any significant amount anyways. they are all talk and no action.

The reds, like the blues, rarely ever do what they say they will. The reds claim they will lower taxes, shrink the size of the government and give you more personal freedom. Yet under them they either raise taxes or keep them the same (Bush did cut them I admit), they grow the size of the government and they pass laws like the patriot act (the blues are responsible for this as well) that actually take away your freedom.

If you are red or blue you are part of the problem. This country needs a good dose of grey.

Rochard · 05-04-2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

If I go on welfare, foodstamps and medicaid from my state, it's from people including all the generations of my family as well as myself who paid into those systems.

Sort of.

The money you paid into the systems was used to support (pay) people currently enrolled in the system. In other words, if you go on welfare today you aren't pulling from money you paid into the system over the past twenty years, but instead you are pulling money from people currently paying into it.

Sly · 05-04-2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

The reds, like the blues, rarely ever do what they say they will. The reds claim they will lower taxes, shrink the size of the government and give you more personal freedom. Yet under them they either raise taxes or keep them the same (Bush did cut them I admit), they grow the size of the government and they pass laws like the patriot act (the blues are responsible for this as well) that actually take away your freedom.

If you are red or blue you are part of the problem. This country needs a good dose of grey.

Purple!!

smutnut · 05-04-2012, 04:24 PM

I think I could be beige

Bill8 · 05-04-2012, 06:19 PM

The thing is, you are all making a fundamental mistake.

If you lower tax COLLECTIONS without reducing expenditures, and BORROW THE MONEY to make up the difference, you have NOT lowered taxes, you have RAISED them.

The borrowed money has to be paid back with interest eventually. All the republicans have ever done is defer taxes, and by deferring them, they have RAISED TAXES.

This whole tax argument makes no sense, because the republicans always raise expenses and lower collections, which increases the amount of money that has to eventually be paid back thru taxes.

---

Other than that (that the republicans are lying when they claim to lower taxes) there is almost no practical difference in the overall economics and spending practices of the two parties. The primary differences are social and ethical.

The Porn Nerd · 05-04-2012, 09:18 PM

My balls are blue,
My face is red
I like sex
Enuff said

05-04-2012, 09:21 AM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Are you Red or Blue I am going to guess that most of you guys are blue. You want the government to take care of you from cradle to grave. Truly astounding that any webmaster being a independent businessman can be blue. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

05-04-2012, 09:33 AM	#4
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,323	I am purple. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

05-04-2012, 09:44 AM	#6
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,730	I am what I am and I don't care what any of you are. The truth is your picking between the lesser of two evils, and their interests are less in doing what's right for the general public and more interested in beating the other party. We need to be done with this two party system. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

05-04-2012, 09:48 AM	#7
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I don't understand what it means. I guess you mean to assert that democrats (blue) want to be taken care of by the government while republicans (red) dont? Are you sure things are so cut and dry? __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-04-2012, 09:53 AM	#9
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	If I go on welfare, foodstamps and medicaid from my state, it's from people including all the generations of my family as well as myself who paid into those systems. And in case you didn't know, there is a limit on how much you can collect in a lifetime anyway. 5 years if I recall. I've worked about 32 years now in my life paying into this shit. May I have some back if I need it please? How about my dead parents and grandparents who all paid into them? May I have some of it if I need it in your humble opinion? How about if I'm going to die from hunger, may someone help me out plz? Who are these mythical beings who are born and die while being supported by the "government" 100% of the time? Are you sure they exist? __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-04-2012, 09:27 AM	#2
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	.

05-04-2012, 10:00 AM	#11
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	So in your opinion in the last 3 years it went from being not entitled, to entitled when the president doesnt pass laws anyway? Ok. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-04-2012, 10:12 AM	#13
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	oh please, like one is any better than the other. if anythign 'red' wants to control your personal life more than 'blue' and let the market run wild. in canada the whole thing is flip flop...conservatives are 'blue'..liberals are 'red'. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

05-04-2012, 10:31 AM	#14
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Charlie carrying the RED flag. Most UK webmasters are Tories and even more right wing, The Tory government has just introduced restrictions on the porn industry. Yes, if your right wing and work in porn you must be brain dead. __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

05-04-2012, 10:39 AM	#15
AdultDomains12 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 31	I'm red man

05-04-2012, 10:52 AM	#17
red-xxx Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cider country! Posts: 112	I'm Red! __________________ Go on get into the Red! RedCash

05-04-2012, 11:01 AM	#20
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,939	I am Canadian __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

05-04-2012, 11:16 AM	#24
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	i always get a good laugh at anyone in this industry that calls another a sheep... none of us are, we all chose the unpopular road, we all went against the grain to get where we are and most of us have prospered from it in one form or another. Our political differences are petty nonsense compared to what we have done to go the other way. You want sheep? find another board, we don't have any. __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

05-04-2012, 11:20 AM	#25
RubyGoodnight Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SE New England Posts: 577	__________________ Just your run of the mill former fetish performer who is now writing for adult web sites. If you want authentic detail that gets noticed, get in touch. email: smut [at] rubygoodnight [dot] com \| twitter: @RubyGoodnight \| Skype: RubyGoodnight portfolio : rubygoodnight.com \| non-exclusive adult written content: downloads.rubygoodnight.com

05-04-2012, 11:22 AM	#26
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	glad to see johnny found this thread Is everyone forgetting that they are pushing porn? Are they forgetting which side appeals to evangelicals? __________________ Sup

05-04-2012, 11:33 AM	#29
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	Ok, so how much money do these people on welfare receive from the government to help their lavish lifestyle? I can't seem to find any reliable sites with figures but everything I have seen seems awfully low... seeing between $200-$600 depending on family size per month. __________________ Sup

05-04-2012, 11:34 AM	#30
Moose Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Here Posts: 1,548	History 101 Liberals and Conservatives For those that don't know about history ... Here is a condensed version: Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: 1. Liberals, and 2. Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, members of the military, airline pilots and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

05-04-2012, 11:42 AM	#32
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I am red white and blue thats why I am a Libertarian if you are fucking stupid enough to think that the problems this country faces were brought on by either republicans or democrats and not both you are a complete moron. got news for you Mitt and Obama are the same guy. deal with it. The only out for this country is to CUT and I mean REALLY CUT government spending and limit government power. Newt talked a good game but when he had his chance all he did was lie and spend I say execute every fucking one of them for treason and start over. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

05-04-2012, 11:51 AM	#33
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	i am more blue or red pill, shit reality or dream land... __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

05-04-2012, 12:15 PM	#35
spazlabz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,548	I am what would have been called a 'pinko' back in the 50s. But specifically I am a social democrat registered to the democratic party having said that I think for myself and dont follow any party lines but my view of the world and liberals tend to be similar

05-04-2012, 02:56 PM	#37
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	Neither of those. I'm a deontological libertarian. I deal with others by free exchange and voluntary choice.

05-04-2012, 03:11 PM	#38
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	OP, thats a childish and factually untrue characterization of the differences between democrats and republicans. Typical of a republican, to turn everything into a cartoon, to deny complexity, and to use slurs and taunts instead of making any real arguments. I've been self employed since I was 26 years old, and expect no significant help from the government other than to provide the basic protective services of policing road care education and the like. Stop behaving like a child if you expect to be treated like an adult. The ideological and governance differences between democrats and republicans are a matter for serious debate, not this silliness.

05-04-2012, 04:03 PM	#44
asdasd So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,225	I'm down with whatever

05-04-2012, 04:24 PM	#48
smutnut So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,889	I think I could be beige

05-04-2012, 06:19 PM	#49
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	The thing is, you are all making a fundamental mistake. If you lower tax COLLECTIONS without reducing expenditures, and BORROW THE MONEY to make up the difference, you have NOT lowered taxes, you have RAISED them. The borrowed money has to be paid back with interest eventually. All the republicans have ever done is defer taxes, and by deferring them, they have RAISED TAXES. This whole tax argument makes no sense, because the republicans always raise expenses and lower collections, which increases the amount of money that has to eventually be paid back thru taxes. --- Other than that (that the republicans are lying when they claim to lower taxes) there is almost no practical difference in the overall economics and spending practices of the two parties. The primary differences are social and ethical. Last edited by Bill8; 05-04-2012 at 06:23 PM..

05-04-2012, 09:18 PM	#50
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,573	My balls are blue, My face is red I like sex Enuff said __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia