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Edit: The support thing - especially network and exchange - is generally a windows specific problem. If your business ran linux, you'd likely have the same experience that you have running OS X. So that's not necessarily a bonus point for OS X, but more a deduction in points for windows.

When i first put this machine together, I was all over running Snow Leopard, then Lion. I personally believe that since I bought and paid for the software, it's mine to use how i want. Apple has yet to come after anyone in the 'hackintosh' community yet, and likely never will. I've never once been concerned about being held legally liable for my decision to use software that I paid for on hardware that I paid for. I have much more important things to worry about.

I ended up dropping OS X on this machine after Lion because - as with SL - I had some issues with my cpus running hotter than they should be. Now, if I were a master at fixing dsdt's - which btw, the windows world made it too easy for hardware manufacturers to become lazy with proper bios code - then i would still be running Lion on this machine. If I had a bigger voice in the 'hackintosh' community and could get some dsdt masters to help me, then I would likely still be running Lion. But alas, neither of those things are true in my case so I eventually had to drop Lion.

Personally, I now run LMDE on my workstation. Mint because I like their menus, and debian testing because I love bleeding edge. My servers run debian squeeze. I also have windows installed on this box but only ever use it for gaming, and sometimes when I need to run photoshop.

Now, if I could justify the added cost of a Mac pro with the same specs as my machine ha then i would likely just buy one because I do like OS X. But when it comes right down to it, for high end machines, there is no justification whatsoever that would make me kick out 2x the amount I paid for this machine just so I could run OS X 'properly'.

DWB

My PC runs circles around my Mac when it comes to video rendering.

vdbucks

My machine runs 2x Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz processors. The same exact processors that were available in Mac Pro's when I built this machine.

They are (were) the same exact processor/chip.

And in regards to other Macs, they use the same exact i5's and i7's that are available for PC's. There is no chip/processor difference whatsoever.

Same thing with the video cards. Well, ok, the bios/firmware of the video cards are written differently because they have to support EFi but the hardware specifics themselves are exactly the same. And you can reflash the bios/firmware with the PC counterpart and run them in a pc just fine; not that the average user ever would but it serves the purpose of proving that they are exactly the same hardware wise.

Same thing with the RAM, HDD's, etc.

Not to be rude but sorry, you should at least try to sound like you know what you're talking about before claiming someone else is misinformed.

6South

I'm buying one of the new MBP's today but not one of the retina display models. I'd love to have it, of course but it's not worth the extra money and storage downsize to me at this time.

I've been waiting almost a month for the new model to come out, The CPU and Nvidia GPU are what I was holding out for.

The best use of Retina displays, IMO is on small devices like phones and tablets. Other than graphic artists and tweaks the best use of it is to give full HD resolution on displays which would be limited to 480p or less due to size without it.

I wouldn't mind having a retina display TV though. Films made in full 4D resolution are just now coming to market, it would be nice to have that much HD in a 40-50 inch flat screen.

Radical Bucks

FUCKING LAME THERE IS NO 17" WTF?

http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/

2MuchMark

I have 2 x iMac27's on my desk. Accounting has one too, which runs both Lion and Windows 7 at the same time (amazing). Brooke has one on her desk too. These are amazing, awesome machines. Truly worth the money.

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xenigo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4D_film

I haven't heard of any 4D movies coming to market, personally. I'm not sure how much of a market there is for theme parks, etc. Apparently they are being made, though.

Chair movements don't sound very taxing on the rendering process, and don't have anything to do with the resolution of a display.

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VenusBlogger

Never understood why people get so crazy for MAC's and Apples...

I can build something way better (desktop pc) and custom made on my own for half the price.

Some people are seriously brainwashed to buy all macs and apples and iphone, after all the years of hollywood movies showing and marketing steve jobs products.

The most funny part is when I see some idiot sitting at a starbucks with his iphone and reading Steve Jobs biography. That tells me people are seriously brainwashed.

Period.

Chosen

I didn't

xenigo

So I went down to the Emeryville Apple store today and asked to see the Retina 15" MBP and the guy who I asked seemed really put off that I was asking about it so soon. I told him I was kinda disappointed they don't have their displays ready to coincide with the launch of new products... because that's how it's been in recent memory. That's one of Apple's great abilities is having products ready to see ASAP.

So I asked what the estimate was on the displays being set up... he said "it's in limbo". WTF does that mean? I asked when it would be available to purchase, and he said "we're not sure."

These Apple retail employees aren't too helpful... it kinda seems like they're just equipped to answer the most low-level of issues.

Donny

Keep eating McDonalds then.

facialfreak

As much as the specs make me cum .... my mid 2011 13" 8GB i7 MacBook Pro with 250GB OWC Mercury Extreme SSD will continue to serve me for a few more years ...

A better display and 4mm shaved off the chassis is not enough to make me trade up ..

Not yet ....

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But at the moment, I dont want one...

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I used the Apple configuration guide to assemble a decent retina display MAcBook Pro notebook with solid state drive and an external 27" Thunderbolt monitor, plus a bunch of other add-ons, which bumped up the price from $2,428 up to $4488.94 (and that doesn't include putting off an external RAID storage system).



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diesel

I ordered 4 pieces for our top management. Whatever you say here about mac - a manager works much faster and more efficient while he is on MacBook. Tasks really fly. So don't hate it, you will end up working less and make more money with these machines!

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DamianJ

I was mocking the people that post about hating macs/windows/linux/android/iOS. I am a mac user. Have been since my Apple II

campimp

three years ago i made the switch from windows to mac... i was scared because of how expensive the macbook pro was, so i bought the cheapest one i could and figured if i liked that one i would eventually buy something better.

three years later and constant use of this laptop and not one single problem... ever.

money well spent

like another posted stated... perhaps the software and hardware are no better than windows machines you can build for half the price.... the point is that the reason people love their macs is because they always work, and they always deliver exactly what you expect from them.

that, is priceless

i would love to get the new retina display macbook... but unfortunately, this laptop still has a few good years left in it. who knows how long it will last considering it still performs exactly the way it did 3 years ago

sure the battery only lasts me 7 hours now, instead of the 9 when i first got it, but i think i can live with that

DamianJ

I certainly never thought this thread would degenerate into people arguing over which OS or computer someone should use. </sarcasm>

Andreas

Those prices seem insane and once it comes where i live it will be 50% more. The US prices are the lowest in the world on Apple products.

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Also i have my windows PC now about 4 years and zero problems other then the fan on my CPU which was replaced in 15 minutes for 30$. Also added an SSD 2 years ago. The price for the whole thing with two 24' Dell screens was less then 1500$. I really have zero problems with it and it runs 12-15 hours per day. Not sure how upgradable and do it yourself fixes/upgrades are on iMacs? I do have an Iphone and the new ipad but don't see the point in a 4000$ MBP.

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mavruda

I was aiming at MACs a time ago, but since the price appeared to high for me I went with Dell.... sigh. One day maybe ....

xenigo

Gotcha. Your brand of sarcasm is too elite for me.

People arguing over operating systems is like arguing over the brand of their electric screwdriver... or their hairdryer. They're tools like any other... It just comes down to what feels better in your hand. Want something stylish? Something with great materials and aesthetic details? Well, you're gonna pay more for it...

I'm a huge BMW and Porsche fan... and I love those little details. The stitching across the edge of the dash, the perfect ergonomics of the seats... shit you just can't get with any other vehicles.

Frankly I can use anything and feel comfortable with it, if I need to... I'm really not that picky when it comes to just getting the job done. But when it really comes down to it... what would I rather have? I mean, if you've got the money, you can really think about the small details of your tools. These are the small details. It's no longer about just "getting the job done"... it's about "if I lived in a perfect world, and used the most perfect and aesthetically pleasing tools... what would I use?"

Spudstr

As a owner of a M5 and 3 other M3's I can say that the quality with BMW is really not there.. yes a fun car to drive but they totally lack all luxury options that you can find in MB or the new caddies.

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Hmm... I agree on the part of MB, and they certainly aren't at the level of Porsche... but I disagree in terms of Cadillac. Cadillac does not in my opinion produce a very polished product. Their stuff seems... poorly built & poorly designed. Their ergonomics are par for GM and I really can't handle most of their vehicles. My grandma has an STS... Suspension wayyyyy too soft... wayyyyy too floaty... strange being so damn close to the ceiling in the back seats... the whole thing just felt fucking weird. The way the seat belts extend... the distance of your arms to the gear selector... the feel of the steering wheel... just the whole nine yards felt like they didn't put a whole lot of thought into it.

MPGdevil

Yes if you can't build a stable PC yourself then money is probably well spent paying Apple instead.

MPGdevil

Just to let you know what you pay for your Apple OS...
Below are just a couple of samples. Could have picked cheaper PC hardware to widen the cost gap even more between buying from Newegg or Apple Store.


Mac Pro (12-core)

CPU: Two 3.06GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 64GB (8x8GB) 1333MHz DDR3 ECC R-DIMM SDRAM
Harddrive 1: 512GB solid-state drive
Harddrive 2: 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB
Display: Apple LED Cinema Display (27" flat panel)

Total: $10,348.00

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PC Watercooled (12-core)

Motherboard: EVGA Classified SR-2 270-WS-W555-A2 LGA 1366 Intel 5520 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HPTX Intel Motherboard - $530.00
CPU: 2 x Intel Xeon X5690 Westmere-EP 3.46GHz - $3300.00
Memory: Kingston 64GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 ECC Registered Server Memory DR x4 - $850.00
Harddrive 1: OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-512G 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive - $600.00
Harddrive 2: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1000DHTZ 1TB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $300.00
Graphics: PowerColor LCS AX7970 3GBD5-W2DH Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready - $700.00
Display: Dell UltraSharp U3011 30" Black 7ms IPS-Panel - $1300.00
Power supply: SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W ATX 12V 2.3 & EPS 12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $400.00
Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS II RC-1200-KKN1 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $350.00
Cooling System: ERM-3K3UC Liquid Cooling System, Copper - $1170.00
Waterblock, fittings, etc - ~$250.00

Total: $9750.00 (cheaper, better cpu, better video card, fully water cooled and easy overclocked 4GHZ+)

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PC Sandy Bridge (16-core)

Motherboard: EVGA Classified SR-X 270-SE-W888-KR LGA 2011 Intel C606 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HPTX Intel Motherboard - $650.00
CPU: 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2690 Sandy Bridge-EP 2.9GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 135W 8-Core Server - $4060.00
Memory: Kingston 64GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 ECC Registered Server Memory DR x4 - $850.00
Harddrive 1: OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-512G 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive - $600.00
Harddrive 2: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1000DHTZ 1TB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $300.00
Graphics: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready - $480.00
Display: Dell UltraSharp U3011 30" Black 7ms IPS-Panel - $1300.00
Power supply: SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W ATX 12V 2.3 & EPS 12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $400.00
Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS II RC-1200-KKN1 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $350.00


Total: $8990.00 (not even going to comment the difference...)

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Oh and by the way, I don't hate Apple.

VenusBlogger

well, nobody answered to my message above.

I guess people just agree with it.

Period...

Mike Dutch

apple just looks good, the reason I buy it, apple is like a expensive car, you dont care of its worth it

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vdbucks

Actually, that one post was a typo.. I meant to write 2x, not 5x

garce

Already delivered five years ago. Maybe not with the "retina" catch phrase, but the functionality is already there. Touch screens, wands, and voice recognition are the wave of the future - Oops! I forgot it doesn't quite work yet and there's nothing useful that you can do with any of that technology. Sorry...

Steve Gates, err, Steve TurtleNeck is dead. Who's cock are you sucking now? Generic corporate cock (same cock as before, but it is now nameless... Generic Apple cock. Num num...)

ROFL! I don't even remember what that dude's name is (or was). Help me here: Steve Who? Steve Someguy? Cancer Boy? Steve WHAT? Sorry.

Bill Gates spent more time and money trying to cure cancer than that pussy spent dying from it. Steve JOBS! ROFL - I had to look it up. I remember now, though...

Apple was dying, and yet they dragged a diseased Steve Jobs (even though he only had a few months to live) back on stage to boost "morale" and to whore their products. Integrity right there, I tell ya! Steve! Unhook that oxygen machine and get onstage! We have some iPod Nanos to sell! BTW, if Steve did all that by own volition - that's even worse. That would be a man who would whore out his dead carcass just to suck 99 cents out of you.

Maybe Apple should have spent more time and money on real research instead of figuring out how to milk you losers out of 99 cents per download one hundred times over with their fucking iStore.

iAnything = Steve Jobs. He's dead. Keep spending your money and watching the comapny that continually fucks you in the ass fail.

One day you'll wake up and your ass will no longer hurt... Steve? STEVE! I have no penis in my ass! I no longer feel full and satisfied!

Hey, don't bitch! You stilll have that $2,500 iBook Fairy with a twelve inch screen and an 40GB SSD hard drive that runs nothing useful outside of Garage Band and that Apple joke of "free" video editing software.

So, you're still cool.

Young

4K. Not 4D.

And 4K res sits at 4096 × 1714. Maybe an iMac might be able to push that out at 31-32 inches....but I doubt it's coming. 4K TV's are already here/or on their way very very shortly. But the prices are ridiculous. Hell....most movie theaters don't have the ability to display 4K yet.

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It's because you've never tried one, if you did, you would understand.

I know you might be able to build your own machine with better specs for less money, but it's not all about the money. It's about the quality, the looks, the stability etc.

It's like saying I don't understand why people buy a BMW while I can buy a cheaper car that drives faster and also gets me from a-b.

I was the guy that used to build my own PCs from the ground up and always upgrading it with better hardware etc. But once I tried MAC I was addicted. It's hard to explain, but it is SO MUCH BETTER than a PC with windows system. Everything just works. Never any problems, or crashes or getting slow etc. You open the macbook and you are ready to go. You really have to experience it to understand.

I know so many people, including myself, that were thinking like you did, but everyone I know that tried a Mac loves it so much they would never go back to a PC.


I just ordered the new 13" MacBook Air with the i7 and 8GB to replace my current 2yr old MacBook Pro (which is still perfectly fine, but I just want to switch to an upgraded Air instead).

Shotsie

So fucking true! You can bet he did that of his own volition. I so fucking hate the worshipful postmortem of this monomaniac who was revered because he was obsessed with work, and loved scornfully busting other people’s balls if they weren’t obsessively working for him. People are always posting that stupid fucking Stanford address, they liken this guy to Jesus Christ. The fact that this type of malformed quasi-human is a “hero” is why there is no way to have any kind of life in this country without being dedicated to work to the detriment of everything else. We worship people who worship work and money. We scoff at people who don’t want to work hard. Which is to say, every person with a fucking soul.

They made a big dfucking deal about Jobs’ last words being “wow.. oh wow” as though he were fully comprehending the infinite universes contained in a single flower petal. But I bet he was remembering some fucking regression formula he had browbeaten some underling into coming up with that successfully calculated the bare minimum you could pay some faceless Shanghai serf to bend a lead wire ten thousand times per day before they threaten to jump off a building. I bet he was calculating the compound interest on that bonus he fucked Wozniak out of forty years back and becoming one with the dazzling power of algorithmic growth. I bet he was remembering how he’d fucked over some corporate rival and gotten them to fold – like, he’d heard the news that Adobe Flash Player was finally tanking. Whatever it was, you can one hundered per cent god damn guarantee that whatever Jobs was oh wow-ing about as the cancer of his soul finally became corporeal was some monomaniacal thing having to do with work, money and ambition.

By the way, I wouldn't mind if Adobe Flash Player tanked, making me restart my browser with their updates every five fucking minutes.

BAKO

Don't care much about Apple laptops

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vdbucks

lol, looks like an apple fanboi is extremely angry.

If you were competent enough and would have read my other posts, you would have noticed that I covered the pricing difference several times, and one account of 5x was a typo.

Doesn't matter though, we both know that you're a loser troll anyway who wouldn't know the difference between a mac and a big mac if someone set both in front of you with big ass flash cards on each. And unlike jackasses like yourself, I do my research before kicking out several thousand dollars for a workstation.. but then, you've probably never held several thousand in your hand at one time so you wouldn't know what I'm talking about anyway.

Now go crawl back under your bridge you worthless troll.