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Old 06-23-2012, 05:04 AM   #1
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Pornhub & YouPorn Owner Funds Fight Against Cyberlockers

http://torrentfreak.com/pornhub-youp...ockers-120623/

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The company behind YouPorn and PornHub has agreed to fund an anti-piracy outfit dedicated to bringing down ?rogue? cyberlockers and illicit file-sharing forums. Speaking with TorrentFreak, the Adult Content Industry United Foundation says they will be using the money to cut off funding to cyberlockers in the hope that hitting them in the pocket brings them to their knees. But are cyberlockers and so-called ?tube? sites facing the same issues?
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porn sites going after us maybe we should look at closing thier sites down do them good to remember payback is a bitch.
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i think the 100,000 pron pics i have is enough , me thinks i can imagine the rest

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and as to full hd its out there you just aint got access to it.....
sides why do i want to see the hair on some chicks butt a divx/xvid/sd.x264 is just great to trade about
hahahahaha HD i see your zits now baby
Let's see that fuckwit Gideon spin this one.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:10 AM   #2
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wow. I love it. I guess these cyberlockers started to get too big for their britches in manwins eyes. It's transparent what is going on but if you share a comon enemy you can be, at the very least, 'symbiotic'.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:17 AM   #3
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So they don't like competition huh :D
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this is really funny, but for a totally different reason than you would think
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I like what ACIUF is up to and its mission, I was just checking out his site last week. Its my list to follow up with. It seems righteously guerilla.

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this is really funny, but for a totally different reason than you would think
Funny for all reasons...we have seen wolves in sheep clothing before
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Funny for all reasons...we have seen wolves in sheep clothing before
in my case a very personal reason

but i totally appreciate any effort that helps to bring down file lockers, torrents etc.

tubes are a totally different animal imo
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Unreal..

They have to stick their dirty hand in everything.
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Rather than flame, support them. They are doing something.

Though this I don't understand.

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So going after the money is the best way to hit them.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:51 AM   #11
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So going after the money is the best way to hit them.
If there is no money, there is no reason to do it.

How are they going to pay for their labor and bandwidth? It all takes money to run a business.

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If there is no money, there is no reason to do it.

How are they going to pay for their labor and bandwidth? It all takes money to run a business.

But Markham says internet traffic is free and easy to get.
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wow. I love it. I guess these cyberlockers started to get too big for their britches in manwins eyes. It's transparent what is going on but if you share a common enemy you can be, at the very least, 'symbiotic'.
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Unreal..

They have to stick their dirty hand in everything.
If they can't buy them, and I'm sure they have tried, they are left with no other choice. There is only room for one ginormous pirate operation in town.

Either way, file lockers going offline is a positive step. Anyone who is able to bring down a single one, large or small, gets a kudos in my book. Personally, I like seeing Manwin go after these guys, as they have the resources to take the lead on this and see it through. If anyone has the power to get the job done, besides Corbin Fisher, it would be them.

What I don't want to see is a bunch of lawsuits where Manwin ends up owning all the file lockers. That would be disastrous.
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But Markham says internet traffic is free and easy to get.
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What I don't want to see is a bunch of lawsuits where Manwin ends up owning all the file lockers. That would be disastrous.
Yah you gotta be careful with hidden Agendas.

I don't feel like Manwin has shown any regard for morals and ethics unless it benefits them financially.

Businesses are in business to make money, that's not the point.
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If they can't buy them, and I'm sure they have tried, they are left with no other choice. There is only room for one ginormous pirate operation in town.

Either way, file lockers going offline is a positive step. Anyone who is able to bring down a single one, large or small, gets a kudos in my book. Personally, I like seeing Manwin go after these guys, as they have the resources to take the lead on this and see it through. If anyone has the power to get the job done, besides Corbin Fisher, it would be them.

What I don't want to see is a bunch of lawsuits where Manwin ends up owning all the file lockers. That would be disastrous.
I really hate to say it but I don't think real change will occur unless Manwin also steps up to the plate and helps put a stop to it (including on their own sites). At this point we really need them. The pay site industry is that far gone because of the rampant piracy over the last five years.

I recall in the past much discussion about repeat infringers. Did Fabian ever enact a policy to terminate (or at least suspend future uploads from them) repeat infringers after three strikes and remove all their videos automatically as Youtube does?

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Is it common knowledge that Choopa and the Mansef gang owned Filesonic and Fileserve?

I don't think Fabian, whatever you think of him, would risk what Manwin now owns and controls by owning large file sharing operations. The Feds took down Megaupload, it looks like Oron is on the run, file sharing sites look to be sitting ducks while tube sites continue to flourish behind the DMCA's 'safe harbor' provision.

Manwin's core business is still adult paysites, so file sharing sites are its enemy as much as for any of us smaller businesses. It's why in another thread I asked Fabian why Manwin hasn't done what Corbin Fisher has done.

I've been saying for years it's the file sharing sites that will kill us all off, tube sites have never bothered me as much.

Manwin must have invested close to a million dollars in Babes.com - take a look at today's offerings from Seaporn.org http://www.seaporn.org/

Babes - Shazia Sahari - Come My Love

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this is truly amusing: http://www.youclips.net/static/_2257

(got there from seaporn)
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This is a long fight and it seems more are joining the war and we're winning some battle.

these posts seem confusing though given the latest news.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19020293&postcount=83

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19020254&postcount=75

Seems he didn't know what was happening.

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Exactly. Whoever came up with this idea is either fucking stupid or a brilliant depending on which side they are on.
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Perfect match.. two organizations that managed to piss off a lot of people in a very short amount of time. Congrats to the winners.
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Is it common knowledge that Choopa and the Mansef gang owned Filesonic and Fileserve?

I don't think Fabian, whatever you think of him, would risk what Manwin now owns and controls by owning large file sharing operations. The Feds took down Megaupload, it looks like Oron is on the run, file sharing sites look to be sitting ducks while tube sites continue to flourish behind the DMCA's 'safe harbor' provision.

Manwin's core business is still adult paysites, so file sharing sites are its enemy as much as for any of us smaller businesses. It's why in another thread I asked Fabian why Manwin hasn't done what Corbin Fisher has done.

I've been saying for years it's the file sharing sites that will kill us all off, tube sites have never bothered me as much.

Manwin must have invested close to a million dollars in Babes.com - take a look at today's offerings from Seaporn.org http://www.seaporn.org/

Babes - Shazia Sahari - Come My Love

Babes - Katie Kox - Anything For You

Babes - Ivana Sugar - Wake Up My Love

Babes - Annalisa Greco - Gorgeous Annalisa

Babes - Erica Fontes - Aqua Pleasure

Babes - Alanna Anderson - Summer Of Love

Babes - Alanna Anderson - A Summer's Day Delight
Funny thing is that they are promoting brazzers as an affiliate (with a banner)

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Hopefully the file sharing sites will fight back against the tubes, trying to get their bulking cut off. If they both go war, they both lose.
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Personally I love the irony that seeps out of this whole saga. I call it....

"The Great Pirate War of 2012"

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It's like some kind of gang war.

"Don't steal on the same corner I'm stealing on"

Both sides are thieves in my opinion.
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It's like some kind of gang war.

"Don't steal on the same corner I'm stealing on"

Both sides are thieves in my opinion.
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Tubes sell porn tho, and file lockers and torrents don't, i have tried it Tubes generate tons of porn sales, so it is good to see file lockers go
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It's like some kind of gang war.

"Don't steal on the same corner I'm stealing on"

Both sides are thieves in my opinion.
I'd rather have manwin running the corner in front of my house than a file locker. At least you can reason with manwin & they wont tag up your house & drink 40's on your porch & rep stupid colors. Cyberlockers are what happens when jamal takes over your corner. Both are bad, but at least manwin is trying to stay within the letter of the law, albeit the law sucks.
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I'd rather have manwin running the corner in front of my house than a file locker. At least you can reason with manwin & they wont tag up your house & drink 40's on your porch & rep stupid colors. Cyberlockers are what happens when jamal takes over your corner. Both are bad, but at least manwin is trying to stay within the letter of the law, albeit the law sucks.
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I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.
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I heard they are fighting for people who steal content too...
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When the enemy starts fighting within, it weakens them.
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I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.
um...... this is real life. not suggesting you do anything violent but not like all these people who steal content are virtual, they're flesh and blood people.
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I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around

In my eyes, I think this is a good start, but I guess you have to start "believing" to see it.

I know most can't agree with it on principle, but I'd say in general - the less free porn easily available to end-users the better chances for us all to actually sell porn again.

This is actually the time to decide on which side you are on, are you just going to continue bitching or are you going to help this time around - most of us have just sat by idle while the tubes and file-lockers started taking over... Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is.

Oh and: One thing you all should realize - once there are no more rogue lockers, boards and tubes left - Manwin could actually flip the "free porn switch" off - ever considered thinking that this is the groundwork for a much larger "end-goal" (sorry there it is again) ?
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I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.
No, you wouldn't.

Did you give Fabian a black eye after his keynote in Vegas?
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Oh and: One thing you all should realize - once there are no more rogue lockers, boards and tubes left - Manwin could actually flip the "free porn switch" off - ever considered thinking that this is the groundwork for a much larger "end-goal" (sorry there it is again) ?
I actually think that's the main goal. Control everything, kill the competion and then "flip the free porn swith off" and reep in the benefits.

So don't give up, keep building your sites, work on getting traffic to them and lets hope that is actually the goal.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:05 AM   #41
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I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around
I think you are unbelievably naive in terms of their motives. They know exactly what they are doing, and there is not a single good intention in their plan.
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Like I said let's give it some time. All this can't just happen over night, everyone should understand that.
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No, you wouldn't.

Did you give Fabian a black eye after his keynote in Vegas?
For your dumbass information:
I did NOT attend his joke of a "keynote speech".

I never had any intention of hitting him anyway. Matter of fact he wanted to meet me and talk about what he's doing to show his "side". He never did. And when I saw him in the room at the CEO dinner, I walked right by him (Jerry from AEBN was right beside me laughing) and I stared dead at him the whole time in an overly exaggerated way to fuck with him.

He just sat there slack jawed and staring straight ahead like a dead fish. lol

But no, I never intended any violence towards him. He'd sue me to the ground.

Now what have you ever done? Nothing? Thought so... Shut the fuck up.
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For your dumbass information:
I did NOT attend his joke of a "keynote speech".

I never had any intention of hitting him anyway. Matter of fact he wanted to meet me and talk about what he's doing to show his "side". He never did. And when I saw him in the room at the CEO dinner, I walked right by him (Jerry from AEBN was right beside me laughing) and I stared dead at him the whole time in an overly exaggerated way to fuck with him.

He just sat there slack jawed and staring straight ahead like a dead fish. lol

But no, I never intended any violence towards him. He'd sue me to the ground.

Now what have you ever done? Nothing? Thought so... Shut the fuck up.
wow you guys really showed him
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I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around

In my eyes, I think this is a good start, but I guess you have to start "believing" to see it.

I know most can't agree with it on principle, but I'd say in general - the less free porn easily available to end-users the better chances for us all to actually sell porn again.

This is actually the time to decide on which side you are on, are you just going to continue bitching or are you going to help this time around - most of us have just sat by idle while the tubes and file-lockers started taking over... Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is.
QFT. Manwin maybe the biggest, yet what are RK, BB and the other big guys doing about this. Scuba Steve thinks makinh jokes and closing one Tube a year is the answer.

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Incredibly naive. If the major Tubes flip the "free porn switch" off. Surfers will move to those who don't and those who start up. Then it's all "User Upload" or bought. If the cost of buying content cripples some, more surfers left for those with content or able to buy it. This is why content is King, surfers will always follow it. Then the advertising on piracy sites. This is why Manwin and the big Tube owners will go after the pirates.

It's so simple. 1000 pirates sharing the booty will end up with less than if it were 100 giving away free porn.

Stop wishing for 2005 to return.
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You know what they say... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I'm just not sure who is who in this one.
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I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.
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...I walked right by him (Jerry from AEBN was right beside me laughing) and I stared dead at him the whole time in an overly exaggerated way to fuck with him.
From blasting people with a shotgun to staring at them real hard and mean in 2 posts - way to go. LOL

Get that clown with the bleached hair that keeps popping up in your avatar to sort him out. He looks like he could handle the situation, maybe he could cuss and swear at him.
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wow you guys really showed him



i hope Joker is right, i had the same thought in the past
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No, you wouldn't.

Did you give Fabian a black eye after his keynote in Vegas?
Course he didn't. Didn't even talk to him.

I love coked up steroid filled red neck keyboard warriors.

One minute blasting him with a shotgun, the next minute, giving him the evil eye.

Hilarious.

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Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is.
All of these lawsuits are nothing more than the latest porn business model. They all are only out for cash, not to help anyone.

Oron will settle. Slutload will settle. All of them will settle. That is the point of hitting them with super size multi-million dollar law suits. They will settle for a fraction of that and will agree to do something to help keep content off their site that belongs to the company suing them.

It's like when you get into trouble with the law. They often throw all sorts of BS charges on you and force you to plea to a lesser charge. They win and get a conviction, and you get fucked, but the fucking wasn't as bad as it could have been.
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