China has an Internet market of 0.5 billion users.but has so few porn sites

[xinyonghu]

The country has 0.5 billion internet users and 0.4 billion phone internet users.
why there are so few porn sites in Chinese language?
I think this is a market need, and the potential demand.However, it is also dangerous.
And Once found by the government,Your site will be shut out .and Soon you'll be in jail if you are a chinese.
But.danger and opportunity will be coexist.
So,if you have a porn site and want to more fresh traffic.As the best of China's neighbors,I will be pleased to lead you .
btw,I want to a part-time job. I could make nothing of working 10 hours a day without taking a break .no need weeked and no need holiday.and need few salary.If you'd rather to hire people to operating a website .just connect with me.

[lucas131]

because you are a dick

[lucas131]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

The country has 0.5 billion internet users and 0.4 billion phone internet users.
why there are so few porn sites in Chinese language?
I think this is a market need, and the potential demand.However, it is also dangerous.
And Once found by the government,Your site will be shut out .and Soon you'll be in jail if you are a chinese.
But.danger and opportunity will be coexist.
So,if you have a porn site and want to more fresh traffic.As the best of China's neighbors,I will be pleased to lead you .
btw,I want to a part-time job. I could make nothing of working 10 hours a day without taking a break .no need weeked and no need holiday.and need few salary.If you'd rather to hire people to operating a website .just connect with me.

[BIGTYMER]

Yeah but it's worthless traffic.

[AllAboutCams]

i'm seriously thinking of moving to china

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Yeah but it's worthless traffic.

No,Your site nobody payment because you are useing this tool
payoneer,paypal,credit card .etc.You must be use the only system of payment
alipay

Trust me on this one

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

i'm seriously thinking of moving to china

Welcome.buy why come to here? it is dangerous here.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by lucas131

because you are a dick

I love your avatar picture.

[duk75]

I have though about this, and if the site is hosted in a country with free speech laws, then I think it would not be a problem, as you would be making things with freedom, that laws give you. But perhaps they would ban you from China and reject you any chinese visa you request.

Actually I am not really sure if they would actually discover that. I have seen that most of the porn sites are not blocked by their general firewall.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Yeah but it's worthless traffic.

read this
http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid...r _qf.,cf.osb

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

Welcome.buy why come to here? it is dangerous here.

I have a few problems here so i may end up having to go to china/fuqing for at least 6-month to a year.
All my income is automated i don't even need to access my sites when im there just use my card to access money.
Do you live in china and where?

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by duk75

I have though about this, and if the site is hosted in a country with free speech laws, then I think it would not be a problem, as you would be making things with freedom, that laws give you. But perhaps they would ban you from China and reject you any chinese visa you request.

Actually I am not really sure if they would actually discover that. I have seen that most of the porn sites are not blocked by their general firewall.

Well.On your second question.I can give you an example.
I have been observed a porn site for a while. the site just a simple porn pic site.
On July 1,I visited the site .www.abc.com
On July 5,when I visited it again.the home page shows :please visit our new domain.www.abc123.com
On July 10,I visited abc123.com and abc.com again,then it shows:please visit our new domain.www.abc456.com
....
So no one knows who's webmaster .

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

I have a few problems here so i may end up having to go to china/fuqing for at least 6-month to a year.
All my income is automated i don't even need to access my sites when im there just use my card to access money.
Do you live in china and where?

Yes,I live in china but my city is far from fuqing.I would like to give some advice for you.
this place is crowded and air quality is so bad .the food is unhealthy and you will be sick with respiratory illnesses if it is your first time to come here.
But no all place is very bad. I will tell you more survival skills If you are interested in

[Lykos]

Pls email me or ICQ me, thanx !

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Pls email me or ICQ me, thanx !

I have already sent you an email

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

Yes,I live in china but my city is far from fuqing.I would like to give some advice for you.
this place is crowded and air quality is so bad .the food is unhealthy and you will be sick with respiratory illnesses if it is your first time to come here.
But no all place is very bad. I will tell you more survival skills If you are interested in

please tell me anything you think i would need to know

[Konda]

United States of America
GDP: US$ 15.09 trillion (2011)
Population: 311,591,917 (2011)

China
GDP: US$ 7.298 trillion (2011)
Population: 1,344,130,000 (2011)

The market is HUGE, but it is very risky, because it is illegal.

However, online gambling is illegal there as well, yet the big gambling sites make billions of dollars from Chinese players.

How? They keep changing URL and payment accounts. It's a cat and mouse game, but the market is so big, that it's worth it. The biggest problem is the payment accounts (people need to be able to pay with local bank cards and other local payment methods) and of course the language barrier and infrastructure (hiding your sites from the government/automatically keep moving urls etc) are hard to overcome as well. You need the right contacts and inside people that are willing to take the risk for you in exchange for a percentage. It might sound hard, but there are always people willing to take big risks if a lot of money is involved.

I think the same could apply for porn. There are twice as many people in China than the US and Europe combined and there is hardly any competition. Of course there are a lot of poor people in China, but there are also millions and millions of people that have the money. With the right contacts there are many millions to be made on the Chinese porn market.

[DarkJedi]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

Yes,I live in china but my city is far from fuqing.I would like to give some advice for you.
this place is crowded and air quality is so bad .the food is unhealthy and you will be sick with respiratory illnesses if it is your first time to come here.
But no all place is very bad. I will tell you more survival skills If you are interested in

Are there any clean places in China?

What cities? I want to visit.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

please tell me anything you think i would need to know

Well, it is hard to speak clearly in a few words.
just remember :Never to trust anyone ,Do not line up,there must be some poison in the food which you eat by the roadside,Adidas is fake,beggar is cheater ,policeman maybe fake..
the speed of Gfy forum and any else website out of China is very slower,FB and twitter is forbidden.However,You can improve that by VPN or proxy tools.(I will provide many proxy tools if you need )
Don't believe all the "China survival guide" in the internet.it is incomplete..The real China is much more complicated ..
Oh, man, I'm itching to get off work.,I'll tell you more later..

[Triple-A]

Fascinating....

[DVTimes]

most who want porn in china have access to it. they use websites that lets them see porn. most will probably go on porn tubes.

you can buy porn dvd's and western films in most shops. but its under the counter. officaly its baned but they (china goverment) does not care as long as its under the counter.

[Christophe]

Contact me via ICQ

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by Konda

United States of America
GDP: US$ 15.09 trillion (2011)
Population: 311,591,917 (2011)

China
GDP: US$ 7.298 trillion (2011)
Population: 1,344,130,000 (2011)

The market is HUGE, but it is very risky, because it is illegal.

However, online gambling is illegal there as well, yet the big gambling sites make billions of dollars from Chinese players.

How? They keep changing URL and payment accounts. It's a cat and mouse game, but the market is so big, that it's worth it. The biggest problem is the payment accounts (people need to be able to pay with local bank cards and other local payment methods) and of course the language barrier and infrastructure (hiding your sites from the government/automatically keep moving urls etc) are hard to overcome as well. You need the right contacts and inside people that are willing to take the risk for you in exchange for a percentage. It might sound hard, but there are always people willing to take big risks if a lot of money is involved.

I think the same could apply for porn. There are twice as many people in China than the US and Europe combined and there is hardly any competition. Of course there are a lot of poor people in China, but there are also millions and millions of people that have the money. With the right contacts there are many millions to be made on the Chinese porn market.

hey.mate.Your are right.that's other payment in China .You can call it ?the imitation of paypal?.In China paypal is dead because of it.His name is:alipay.
Yes.alipay copy from paypal .and finally defeated paypal in China payment market.Do u know more about alipay？In China everyone one person to be only one alipay account because one alipay account must be binding with one ID card. But in fact is:it has no hode for me and I am familiar with everythings about this things and I can get many alipay accounts without my ID card.though all of this alipay account name is not mine. I have absolute authority and could transfer money from one alipay account to another .and it is free .it has no fee . To be sure. In China not everyone could do it.
So in other words. As long as you have mechanisms set up to capture that visiting traffic In China, you are building your long term marketing channel..and I can help you transfer this money to your paypal account safely. technology are not the issue. The language is not a problem, and the culture is not a problem.I can run your porn sites and make you money In this Illegal Country

[Paul Markham]

Why share this amazing news?

Go open your own Chinese sites.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

China has an Internet market of 0.5 billion users.but has so few porn sites

No one gives a shit unless they have credit cards and can actually PAY for porn.

This is a business. Not a hobby to be "cool" providing free shit to freeloaders.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Are there any clean places in China?

What cities? I want to visit.

Unfortunately,there is almost no clean cities.
however.Tibet is a natural place.maybe It is better.and my present living city has been assessed to Best City for Human Residence by the United Nations a few years ago , and is one of the best cities in the world for inhabitation.. Consuming level is very low, you to can not spend how much !
white in fact, air quality was so bad too this years.PM2.5 is incorrect by the government statistics

[baryl]

I remember on Full Tilt Poker back in the day there were tons of Chinese players.
Of course FT eventually banned all Chinese players because they pretty much all cheated but the point is they could get money in and out.

[adultmobile]

There are 2 main problems for chinese adult sites, 1) payment and 2) chinese firewall.

Regarding payment, you can do many alipay accounts but then since would be closed with funds freezed always, you can't count on this for a stable business, is a joke. Some chinese have credit cards, I seen them use visa and mc in our cam site, but best would be to use alipay (even paypal it allows to connect with locan bank accounts so everyone can pay - but paypal does not allow adult again).

Regarding the firewall.. China Great Firewall (GFW) block websites political, sexual , illegal.
Example:
https://en.greatfire.org/blocked-websites

Cam4 firewalled from october 2011:
https://en.greatfire.org/cam4.com

Lots tube sites also blocked:
http://www.viewdns.info/chinesefirew...in=xvideos.com
https://en.greatfire.org/www.xvideos.com

If your site is adult AND written in chinese, they ban your IP and domain very quick. For this reason the guy here say he seen site change name abc.com, then abc123.com, then abc345.com and so on - in fact as soon as firewall bans your domain name/ip, you use a new one and email to everyone the new address (or put autoresponder on your email, that give new addresses), but then government ban new one again.
So it is the same issue of payment, must change domain name and IP always, as well as alipay / paypal accounts for payments, this is viable for small hobby/joke sites, but not for a constant and serious business.

Except this, if you run an adult site as a chinese citizen and you're busted.. well someone running cam got 7 years jail, and that's for real, not like in west where theorically you take x years then in reality you be in jail so less.

Said all this - China economy growth is +7% per year, so after 10 years will be quite thge only place where to sell things (given europe is -2% every year, and USA 0% but propaganda say +1%...), by that time it coud be laws will be relaxed about ban adult sites, who knows. Or in 20 years from now... in any case for retirement, when you're old (unless you're paul markham so already old) I advise you sell something to the chinese - to their internal market.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

most who want porn in china have access to it. they use websites that lets them see porn. most will probably go on porn tubes.

you can buy porn dvd's and western films in most shops. but its under the counter. officaly its baned but they (china goverment) does not care as long as its under the counter.

Hi,mate.western films now is legal in our Country .they don't need buy them under the counter.but Porn DVD market has all but disappeared and replaced by online videos.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why share this amazing news?

Go open your own Chinese sites.

Come on Paul.The population of China is much bigger than the America.and It's an enormous market. who seize the initiative and who will go to the era ahead.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

No one gives a shit unless they have credit cards and can actually PAY for porn.

This is a business. Not a hobby to be "cool" providing free shit to freeloaders.

As I have said,Credit cards is lesser-used in this Country.And the most frequently used payment is ailpay and Tenpay .
There is so many fakes in this area.
the default search engine in all of browser,baidu.com has displaced google.com
the social-networking sites,renren.com has displaced facebook.com
the microblog sites,weibo.com has displaced twitter.com
and in the field of electronic payment.alipay has displaced paypal and Credit card .and no one knows payoneer,MoneyBookers,etc..

[EriktheRabbit]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

Unfortunately,there is almost no clean cities.
however.Tibet is a natural place.maybe It is better.and my present living city has been assessed to Best City for Human Residence by the United Nations a few years ago , and is one of the best cities in the world for inhabitation.. Consuming level is very low, you to can not spend how much !
white in fact, air quality was so bad too this years.PM2.5 is incorrect by the government statistics

So you are Tibetan or one of the shit fuck invaders?

[EriktheRabbit]

Originally Posted by xinyonghu

As I have said,Credit cards is lesser-used in this Country.And the most frequently used payment is ailpay and Tenpay .
There is so many fakes in this area.
the default search engine in all of browser,baidu.com has displaced google.com
the social-networking sites,renren.com has displaced facebook.com
the microblog sites,weibo.com has displaced twitter.com
and in the field of electronic payment.alipay has displaced paypal and Credit card .and no one knows payoneer,MoneyBookers,etc..

alipay from alibaba.com ? If so, I would pass. Talk about criminal enterprise. lol.

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit

So you are Tibetan or one of the shit fuck invaders?

I am not tibetan and my city is far from tibet

[AllAboutCams]

i would be interested in making some Chinese webcam sites but i can not see any places that take Chinese traffic

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by baryl

I remember on Full Tilt Poker back in the day there were tons of Chinese players.
Of course FT eventually banned all Chinese players because they pretty much all cheated but the point is they could get money in and out.

Hmm..but not all people are cheater
Sometimes most of us have to became a cheater.or else cannot survive.The government deceive us.They has been using the administration means to govern us. and compel us to do something or don't do something.and we have no right to question them. Welcome to feudal world

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

There are 2 main problems for chinese adult sites, 1) payment and 2) chinese firewall.

Regarding payment, you can do many alipay accounts but then since would be closed with funds freezed always, you can't count on this for a stable business, is a joke. Some chinese have credit cards, I seen them use visa and mc in our cam site, but best would be to use alipay (even paypal it allows to connect with locan bank accounts so everyone can pay - but paypal does not allow adult again).

Regarding the firewall.. China Great Firewall (GFW) block websites political, sexual , illegal.
Example:
https://en.greatfire.org/blocked-websites

Cam4 firewalled from october 2011:
https://en.greatfire.org/cam4.com

Lots tube sites also blocked:
http://www.viewdns.info/chinesefirew...in=xvideos.com
https://en.greatfire.org/www.xvideos.com

If your site is adult AND written in chinese, they ban your IP and domain very quick. For this reason the guy here say he seen site change name abc.com, then abc123.com, then abc345.com and so on - in fact as soon as firewall bans your domain name/ip, you use a new one and email to everyone the new address (or put autoresponder on your email, that give new addresses), but then government ban new one again.
So it is the same issue of payment, must change domain name and IP always, as well as alipay / paypal accounts for payments, this is viable for small hobby/joke sites, but not for a constant and serious business.

Except this, if you run an adult site as a chinese citizen and you're busted.. well someone running cam got 7 years jail, and that's for real, not like in west where theorically you take x years then in reality you be in jail so less.

Said all this - China economy growth is +7% per year, so after 10 years will be quite thge only place where to sell things (given europe is -2% every year, and USA 0% but propaganda say +1%...), by that time it coud be laws will be relaxed about ban adult sites, who knows. Or in 20 years from now... in any case for retirement, when you're old (unless you're paul markham so already old) I advise you sell something to the chinese - to their internal market.

Sorry for delay .I have to work and cannot reply one by one in time. I admire you very much .You've got the point there.
For the payment ,I agree with you.
while for chinese firewall.and I have to say, GFW have not much time to ban all of porn sites.Even sometimes they know that sites but don't ban.Why? because they need money.they are not willing to ban a site earnings rarely.they care about them and want watch the site grow .then finally make a clean sweep and get all the porn site money.they said that "Filthy lucre"..

[xinyonghu]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

i would be interested in making some Chinese webcam sites but i can not see any places that take Chinese traffic

1) Do not use China's ads affiliate program
2) Advertising on not adult community does work (more skills)
3) Payment Method is important
4）Localization is important
Anyhow,in some ways, the market immature, incomplete industry chain.so the job is difficult,but there are still opportunities,especially for you with foreign education and experience.