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The Porn Nerd · 08-23-2012, 10:17 AM

It's the TYPE of tests they are using. DIFFERANT tests are accurate, the current tests are inadequate.

This is why we called the CDC, so that qualified health professionals can comment on all this. But basically it's this:

IF you had Syphallis in your life then the antibiotics to treat the bacteria is forever in your system (just like when you get a flu shot). But if you think you have Syphallis AGAIN then you need a differant test administered.

This assumes the person getting tested is being honest with the tester and saying if he or she has had Syphallis in the past. What if they don't fess up? Hmmm....

Robbie · 08-23-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

It's the TYPE of tests they are using. DIFFERANT tests are accurate, the current tests are inadequate.

This is why we called the CDC, so that qualified health professionals can comment on all this. But basically it's this:

IF you had Syphallis in your life then the antibiotics to treat the bacteria is forever in your system (just like when you get a flu shot). But if you think you have Syphallis AGAIN then you need a differant test administered.

This assumes the person getting tested is being honest with the tester and saying if he or she has had Syphallis in the past. What if they don't fess up? Hmmm....

I don't see why they would ever give the test that could be inaccurate. Doesn't make sense.

If there is a test which is accurate for people who have had it in the past, then it seems to me THAT is the test that needs to be industry standard. Am I thinking right on that? Because the scenario of NOT telling that you had it in the past (because of embarrassment) is exactly what Markus said he did.

CaptainHowdy · 08-23-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I'm calling my urologist right away

...

The urologist's secretary just hanged up on me ...

The Porn Nerd · 08-23-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't see why they would ever give the test that could be inaccurate. Doesn't make sense.

If there is a test which is accurate for people who have had it in the past, then it seems to me THAT is the test that needs to be industry standard. Am I thinking right on that? Because the scenario of NOT telling that you had it in the past (because of embarrassment) is exactly what Markus said he did.

Exactly. The new test - or maybe not 'new' but 'most accurate' - SHOULD be "Industry standard" but it is not. I'm guessing cost? After all, you can get 'partial' STD tests that some producers/performers will accept while others will not. I know that the 'partial' test is cheaper so perhaps that's the case with the Syphallis tests.

I wonder how often Syphallis is tested for in the US anyway. Perhaps another reason why not all facilities have the most up-to-date tests?

DWB · 08-23-2012, 10:59 AM

Wait until porn valley gets hit with the drug resistant strains of gonorrhea and chlamydia that we have in Asia. You think you have problems now... you ain't seen nothing yet. It took me 3 months to kill a drug resistant strain of gonorrhea once that I think I picked up in the Philippines.

eroticsexxx · 08-23-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Wait until porn valley gets hit with the drug resistant strains of gonorrhea and chlamydia that we have in Asia. You think you have problems now... you ain't seen nothing yet. It took me 3 months to kill a drug resistant strain of gonorrhea once that I think I picked up in the Philippines.

3 months?

Radical Bucks · 08-23-2012, 11:26 AM

LA is the Sodom and Gomorrah.

No one in the LA porn industry has self respect or concerns for his or her own life and or health.

Los Angeles is also known as the City of Lost Souls or Lost Angels.

It's all about money and AVN awards.

PornoMonster · 08-23-2012, 11:31 AM

WAIT

Ok I might be wrong, but the Test everyone is talking about is for anti bodies a quick test, which from a post can always show positive, ok.

Now the Grow test, which takes several days is if the bacteria grow then that is if you do or do not have it, correct???

Quentin · 08-23-2012, 01:16 PM

For those confused about whether there are strains of syphilis that are drug resistant, the answer is: "Yes, but..."

Syphilis is resistant to some antibiotics, but so far as I can tell, there is no data showing that any strain of syphilis is resistant to penicillin G benzathine specifically, and that's the antibiotic of choice for treating syphilis under CDC guidelines.

The best explanation (albeit a sort of technical one) that I've found comes from this article.

Here's the key portion of that article, IMO:

Quote:

Effective antibiotic treatment is a key component of syphilis control programs (4). According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 2006 guidelines, the recommended treatment for uncomplicated, early syphilis in adults is penicillin G benzathine administered intramuscularly (i.m.) as a single dose of 2.4 million units (MU) (4). This form of the drug provides weeks of treponemicidal levels of penicillin in the blood, though it does not efficiently cross the blood-brain barrier (39, 48; for further details on the form and dose of penicillin for treatment of syphilis, see reference 4.) Because there are no proven alternatives to penicillin for treatment of infected pregnant women, those who are penicillin allergic should be desensitized and then treated with penicillin G benzathine. Despite over 65 years of extensive clinical experience with penicillin, the need to administer this antibiotic parenterally has led to the use of second-line oral antibiotics, including macrolides (e.g., erythromycin and azithromycin) and tetracyclines (e.g., tetracycline and doxycycline), as first-line drugs for treatment of syphilis. This use of alternative antibiotics, which is inconsistent with current CDC guidelines, occurs more frequently outside the United States (76). The resistance of T. pallidum to macrolides as well as two additional classes of antibiotics is discussed below.

Macrolide resistance.
Macrolides are bacteriostatic antibiotics that inhibit protein synthesis by binding reversibly to 23S rRNA of the 50S ribosomal subunit (80). Shortly after introduction of erythromycin, the first macrolide, in the 1950s, resistance to this antibiotic was observed in several bacterial pathogens (61). Failure of erythromycin treatment for syphilis was reported by South et al. (69) in 1964 and Fenton and Light (15) in 1976 in pregnant women who delivered infants with congenital syphilis. However, since erythromycin may not efficiently cross the placental barrier, it is unknown if these treatment failures were actually due to erythromycin-resistant T. pallidum (55). In 1977, T. pallidum Street strain 14 was isolated from a U.S. patient with active lesions of secondary syphilis who failed long-term erythromycin therapy (74, 75). Studies by Stamm et al. (73, 74), using an in vitro assay to assess the effect of antibiotics on treponemal protein synthesis, showed that Street strain 14 is resistant to high levels of erythromycin and cross resistant to azithromycin, a newer macrolide that was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the early 1990s. In vivo studies with the rabbit model of syphilis confirmed that Street strain 14 is resistant to erythromycin and azithromycin (37). Interestingly, the macrolide-resistant phenotype of Street strain 14 is highly stable, despite multiple passages in laboratory rabbits in the absence of antibiotic pressure (41; L. V. Stamm, unpublished data).

Not exactly light reading, but even with all the jargon and terms of art, you can see what the bottom line is: penicillin G benzathine is the only antibiotic proven to treat syphilis reliably, but there are those who are allergic or otherwise highly sensitive to penicillin, and those who have problems with parenteral administration of drugs (for reasons either medical or psychological), and such patients will often request an alternative to penicillin that might not be effective. It also appears that outside the U.S., the use of penicillin to treat syphilis is not as automatic as it is in the U.S., where physicians are generally going to abide by the CDC recommendations by default.

DWB · 08-24-2012, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx

3 months?

Yup. I am highly allergic to penicillin so I wasn't able to get that, however, the new strains over here are also resistant to that I read. So now they have a couple of different cocktails to use on people. If one doesn't work, they use another.

The problem is sex tourist destinations like Thailand and Philippines attract guys (whore mongers) from literally all over the world. You have strains of STDs and HIV coming in from Africa, India, China, USA, South America, Europe, then mixing with the local strains, creating super strains that are drug resistant and not always easy to get rid of. Not everyone catches one of the nasty ones, but it is here.

Considering how many US male talent is now coming to Thailand (many come in secret) for either work or holiday and having sex with the girls and ladyboys here, it's only a matter of time before they bring back some really nasty stuff and pass it around porn valley.

Emma · 08-24-2012, 08:33 AM

Mr Marcus takes the blame for syphilis outbreak that closed the industry after hiding his test results.

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