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Old 10-07-2012, 11:44 PM   #101
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maffia dont control shit. Remember that episode of the sopranos when they tried to shake down starbucks & failed?
thats how it is.
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I came into this business kinda hoping that they did own it. But hell...not even one. I figure that the money just wasn't up to what they felt was worth it.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:48 PM   #102
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I worked for years for Harry Mohney, owner of the Deja Vu chain, and at one point he was as mobbed up as it gets. I also worked over a decade for a woman that was a close friend/business partner of Reuben Sturman, and his reputation speaks for itself.

It was said that movies like Deep Throat and Behind the Green Door made WAY more money than reported in their theatrical runs because the mob owned adult theaters that ran them severely under-reported the income. I don't think it was nearly as prevalent once the online industry took over porn, but in the early days of adult bookstores/strip clubs/porn theaters the mob absolutely had a huge hand in them...
That's a little more what I'm talking about.

But after meeting literally hundreds of people in this industry I personally haven't met even one "mob" guy. Don't know if it was just coincidence or not.

But I never met them or saw them in the strip clubs (my ex worked for Thee Dollhouse chain as a dancer back in the 1980's) or the jack shacks (another ex).
I didn't have a lot of contact with the adult bookstore industry until the 2000's. I'm sure they had to have had a big piece of that in the day though.

Still haven't met one in the online adult business.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:22 AM   #103
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I wouldn't. And not because it's Manwin.

I actually enjoy what I do and don't want to stop. I look forward to my work everyday.
I agree.. Manwin can pay me 10 million to go away.
I would go away for 1 full year, spend 1 million having fun and living the life.. come back with 9 million to shoot MOAR porn.. I love what I do as well..!

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maffia dont control shit. Remember that episode of the sopranos when they tried to shake down starbucks & failed?
thats how it is.
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You do not know what you are talking about. YOU REALLY DON'T.

Do you think the mob would just out and announce themselves?

Sapranos was a TV show, not reality: BTW

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:26 AM   #104
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The fat is is not singing, Paul.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:29 AM   #105
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if they bought a billing company this wont change shit. If they bought a bank, then...
No one pushes a lot of volume through ccbill. They just have a ton doing a little. Ccbill is for those who don't have enough transactions to acquire a merchant account & also, those that can't afford Nats.
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Ftv, Nubiles, xart, MetArt just to name some big ones who can't afford nats or a merchant huh ;)
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:35 AM   #106
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Ftv, Nubiles, xart, MetArt just to name some big ones who can't afford nats or a merchant huh ;)
They would rather buy Bugatti's and Porches
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:36 AM   #107
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I didn't have a lot of contact with the adult bookstore industry until the 2000's. I'm sure they had to have had a big piece of that in the day though.

Still haven't met one in the online adult business.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:09 AM   #108
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why would it be illegal now? hasn't Gianna been running bookings for RK for years? I'm pretty sure hustler has their own inhouse people that manage talent and bookings as well.

also to whoever said it... pretty sure manwin does not own any part of SBW.

Regardless, congrats to Gianna!
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:10 AM   #109
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the owners of at least two companies listed have other revenue streams that are quite large. FYI.

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:09 AM   #110
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Ftv, Nubiles, xart, MetArt just to name some big ones who can't afford nats or a merchant huh ;)
probably. there are exceptions, but most use ccbill for their affiliate stuff & not their amazing conversions. I apologize roald. I forgot you knew everything.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:10 AM   #111
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why would it be illegal now? hasn't Gianna been running bookings for RK for years? I'm pretty sure hustler has their own inhouse people that manage talent and bookings as well.

also to whoever said it... pretty sure manwin does not own any part of SBW.

Regardless, congrats to Gianna!
rk either owns or has a huge part in sbw. If manwin and rk merged, well..
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:12 AM   #112
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I came into this business kinda hoping that they did own it. But hell...not even one. I figure that the money just wasn't up to what they felt was worth it.
well you cant just shake down 1000's of webmasters without it getting out.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:55 AM   #113
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i dont know about the US, but large parts of the old school porn biz in Germany have their roots in prostitution. i know a couple of guys who either used or still run brothels or similar and porn was more like a "tax write-off"
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:17 AM   #114
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Don't take things so personal, just wanted to point out that there are quite some companies still doing fairly big numbers with ccbill
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That's a little more what I'm talking about.

But after meeting literally hundreds of people in this industry I personally haven't met even one "mob" guy. Don't know if it was just coincidence or not.

But I never met them or saw them in the strip clubs (my ex worked for Thee Dollhouse chain as a dancer back in the 1980's) or the jack shacks (another ex).
I didn't have a lot of contact with the adult bookstore industry until the 2000's. I'm sure they had to have had a big piece of that in the day though.

Still haven't met one in the online adult business.
You have met quite a few but didn't know it. Some of them are your acquaintances in Vegas. I was there when they were with you. The "mob" is not like the old days. They are more sophisticated today and don't go around behaving like thugs. They are very professional but not forgiving. To put it simply, they have no reason to disclose this information to you.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:40 AM   #116
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You have met quite a few but didn't know it. Some of them are your acquaintances in Vegas. I was there when they were with you. The "mob" is not like the old days. They are more sophisticated today and don't go around behaving like thugs. They are very professional but not forgiving. To put it simply, they have no reason to disclose this information to you.
I don't doubt what you are saying...but if I know them, and you were there when they were with me...then how do YOU know they are in the mafia if they are so careful not to let anyone know?

Wait a minute....are you in the mafia?


Or hold on a damn second.....am I in the mafia??? This is getting confusing...
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I don't doubt what you are saying...but if I know them, and you were there when they were with me...then how do YOU know they are in the mafia if they are so careful not to let anyone know?

Wait a minute....are you in the mafia?


Or hold on a damn second.....am I in the mafia??? This is getting confusing...
No, I'm not in the Mafia nor do I have any information to believe tha you are in the Mafia. We do have mutual friends that are in the Mafia but they have no reason to tell you so.

To answer your question. I found out when one of their father's passed away. The family was under watch by the FBI. Because of all the activity, I was informed of what was going on. That's when I learned how the Mafia has progressed. Don't get me wrong, if they need to kill you, they will kill you but they would rather not. They're really sophisticated in what they do.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:58 AM   #118
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Under the Talent Agencies Act it would be a conflict of interest...

California Labor Code section 1700.40;
ummmm yeah right, that law works here in LA porn
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California Labor Code section 1700.40;
They will just change the name from Talent Agent to Human Resources and only book for their own people.
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ummmm yeah right, that law works here in LA porn
You can drive 100mph down the 405 freeway without getting pulled over, but it doesn't mean you didn't break the law.

Clearly there are agencies in violation of various pieces of the Talent Agencies Act. These violations could be addressed through a DLSE opinion letter by providing interpretation which may be used in litigation.
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Russian mob different story
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Ok so if both mike south stories are true:

Manwin Buys Streamate:
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How it is on all the standpoints, to own agency who hire model to work on own cam site?
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