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Sharky · 11-19-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by davethedope

Are prospects going to end up on a million lists they didn't agree to, getting tons of unwanted emails?

You can't control what your sponsors do with the leads they buy from you, But I assure you that Lead Wrench won't abuse your data.

Evil Chris · 11-20-2012, 08:32 AM

Leadwrench isn't really revealing how they actually handle the data that is shared with them, so bear with me:

PROCESS.
1. You collect user info on a dating pre-join page (for example).
2. You have that info/data that you have collected (a lot of it) and you pass it to Leadwrench, and they optimize it for the various dating sites that you're both using.
3. Monies are generated on leads and joins by sending the data to these various dating sites.

COST.
One would have to figure out what the originating traffic is costing the affiliate (if anything at all as it may be organic SE traffic), and the cost of passing it through Leadwrench (their fee).

It reminds me a lot of emailing services. Customer has half a million email addresses, but no effective or safe way to hit those emails with offers so they use a service that is white-listed.

In either case, you have to trust that 3rd party with your data and hope they never share it or use it themselves.

edgeprod · 11-20-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharky

Send me your CV, we are hiring senior level programmers.

Sent, enjoy!

My buddy VenusBlogger hooking me up once again.

Mr Pheer · 11-20-2012, 12:45 PM

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And Mister FEAR, I know all your pieces, all your sites, I just need to put everything together, thats where im failing, but im very good at finding pieces... Just building the jigsaw is the problem.

If you know all of my sites, then you know more than me. i literaly cannot keep up with them. I have to keep shit in a speadsheet. Domains, which names the domains are registered under, which hosts they are pointed at, which IPs they are on, and even if i have a site built on a particular domain or not.

If i cant keep up with it, how can you? The majority of my stuff isnt even registered in my name because of stalkers like you.. one has followed me for nearly 15 fucking years.

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And Mister FEAR, your traffic is untraceable, which means that you are not generating it with SEO or organic...

I dont have SEO traffic? Fuck.. where did it go? Oh my god... fuck!

Wait... what the fuck... analytics says it is right there. What the fuck are you trying to pull?

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and the only chances left I can think of are EMAIL Spam, MSN Spam, or some other shit, but I cannot confirm this, until you confirm it... Where does your traffic come from Mister FEAR ?

Must be some other shit... MSN chat died like 10 years ago, and although I'm building an email list, I have yet to blast one out yet.

Ok, I'm going to give you the super secret traffic sauce.

I run ads in newspapers from my tiny one-bedroom apartment.

edgeprod · 11-20-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I run ads in newspapers from my tiny one-bedroom apartment.

That business was supposed to be our little secret. Thanks for once again proving you can't be trusted with sensitive information!

Mr Pheer · 11-20-2012, 12:53 PM

Just so PenisBlogger doesnt have a fucking stroke...

This is some of what I do.

I have my own dating site. I have hundreds of domains that get some traffic, they all look like a dating site as well. The join page on all of those sites, is the join page to my one dating site.

Get it so far?

The join page on the one dating site... is sent thru LeadWrench.

Thats the fucking real deal. No secrets.

Why can you not fucking understand it? You've been told this over and over. Edgeprod even said the same thing in this thread. Get it through your thick fucking skull, you god damned retard on wheels.

Killswitch · 11-20-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Just so PenisBlogger doesnt have a fucking stroke...

This is some of what I do.

I have my own dating site. I have hundreds of domains that get some traffic, they all look like a dating site as well. The join page on all of those sites, is the join page to my one dating site.

Get it so far?

The join page on the one dating site... is sent thru LeadWrench.

Thats the fucking real deal. No secrets.

Why can you not fucking understand it? You've been told this over and over. Edgeprod even said the same thing in this thread. Get it through your thick fucking skull, you god damned retard on wheels.

I like you man.

Evil Chris · 11-20-2012, 01:53 PM

Hey Sharky, thanks for the demo today on our call.

It opened my eyes to what Leadwrench does. Looking forward to using your service!

Juicy D. Links · 11-20-2012, 01:54 PM

nice Sharky

lazycash · 11-20-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

If you know all of my sites, then you know more than me. i literaly cannot keep up with them. I have to keep shit in a speadsheet. Domains, which names the domains are registered under, which hosts they are pointed at, which IPs they are on, and even if i have a site built on a particular domain or not.

If i cant keep up with it, how can you? The majority of my stuff isnt even registered in my name because of stalkers like you.. one has followed me for nearly 15 fucking years.

I dont have SEO traffic? Fuck.. where did it go? Oh my god... fuck!

Wait... what the fuck... analytics says it is right there. What the fuck are you trying to pull?

Must be some other shit... MSN chat died like 10 years ago, and although I'm building an email list, I have yet to blast one out yet.

Ok, I'm going to give you the super secret traffic sauce.

I run ads in newspapers from my tiny one-bedroom apartment.

Lol, that post made my day.

Love Sex · 11-20-2012, 05:04 PM

Sharky I tried getting in contact with you a few times, seems email my never went through to you or I never received reply.

lead wrench account: lovesex

georgeyw · 11-20-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharky

Everyone has been asking about API for some time. This morning I was passed this informative blog post, which mentions Lead Wrench.

http://www.jayknowscash.com/2012/11/...your-business/

It's worth the quick read.

Who owns that website? Jay who?

http://www.jayknowscash.com/2012/10/...-pack-for-you/

Jay - SMASH · 11-20-2012, 06:19 PM

Sharky · 11-20-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex

Sharky I tried getting in contact with you a few times, seems email my never went through to you or I never received reply.

lead wrench account: lovesex

I just fired you off an email. I don't have anything from you.

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris

Hey Sharky, thanks for the demo today on our call.

It opened my eyes to what Leadwrench does. Looking forward to using your service!

My pleasure. I'm glad I got the chance to walk you through the system and answer your questions. As we discussed, Lead Wrench is simple to use but really does require more personal discussion than a message board provides.

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

nice Sharky

Thanks Juicy!!!

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

Who owns that website? Jay who?

http://www.jayknowscash.com/2012/10/...-pack-for-you/

I don't know, he has a way to contact him on the site though.

Diomed · 11-20-2012, 08:23 PM

I guess what I'm wondering more about is the customer side of things and the quality of their experience.

If they join dating site X, and enter their details through the API.. Will they get bombarded with tons of different offers via email? Surely there are quality control issues with programs paying per lead on watered down customers who have been over exposed.

brentbacardi · 11-20-2012, 09:18 PM

How is this different then Host & Post? Or is it basically the same?

bean-aid · 11-20-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Just so PenisBlogger doesnt have a fucking stroke...

This is some of what I do.

I have my own dating site. I have hundreds of domains that get some traffic, they all look like a dating site as well. The join page on all of those sites, is the join page to my one dating site.

Get it so far?

The join page on the one dating site... is sent thru LeadWrench.

Thats the fucking real deal. No secrets.

Why can you not fucking understand it? You've been told this over and over. Edgeprod even said the same thing in this thread. Get it through your thick fucking skull, you god damned retard on wheels.

How much do a couple hundred domains pointing to dating api join form make you in 2012? I know you are leaving adult, I would like to know how that worked this year for you.

It is just a different animal now then before. I am seeing ridiculous ppc with mainstream adsense and just wondering does it make any sense at all to start 200 or so sites to push dating or cams?

Jay - SMASH · 11-20-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

How much do a couple hundred domains pointing to dating api join form make you in 2012? I know you are leaving adult, I would like to know how that worked this year for you.

It is just a different animal now then before. I am seeing ridiculous ppc with mainstream adsense and just wondering does it make any sense at all to start 200 or so sites to push dating or cams?

You are looking at it the wrong way and mixing things up i think.
Luckily all the big tubes and other sites sell traffic at affordable rates. Making adult profitable is easy as pie these days and even works with ultra high CPC/CPM costs.
TrafficJunky, Adbucks, Exoclick... you can spend 50-100k a day there and dont need the same kind of setup like mr pheer to push 1000-10,000 leads a day.
Dont get blinded by the light..

Slappin Fish · 11-20-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by davethedope

Are prospects going to end up on a million lists they didn't agree to, getting tons of unwanted emails?

^^ THIS

And it gets worse, when trying to look at AFF pricing I found out I have an AFF account I never signed up for.

1. All my details were wrong, was confusing as fuck, I knew it was an API sign up but a surfer probably would have just given up.

2. It robbed the affiliate who actually referred me and raised brand awareness of his commission. In the long run it will mean less affiliates for AFF

3. All the emails had gone to spam some API users are basically email spamming via the sponsor servers.

I understand why a small program has one, but for AFF even though the numbers might look good in the short term most of these sales they would have made anyway and they for sure lose some through erroneous details etc.

_________________

Mr. Romance · 11-20-2012, 11:05 PM

Sharky is a great guy

Mr. Romance

Mr Pheer · 11-20-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

How much do a couple hundred domains pointing to dating api join form make you in 2012? I know you are leaving adult, I would like to know how that worked this year for you.

It is just a different animal now then before. I am seeing ridiculous ppc with mainstream adsense and just wondering does it make any sense at all to start 200 or so sites to push dating or cams?

I've cut way back on the dating especially since august... but according to stats remote it's still a 6-figure year for dating.

Last year was much higher, but I was almost focused on dating exclusively and a bit on webcams. This year I've eliminated webcams, am phasing out dating, and focused more on mainstream.

Dirty F · 11-21-2012, 12:42 AM

You should stop helping that clown Venusblogger. I tried it and instead of thanking me he was implying i was some kind of scammer. He will do the same thing to you. The guy has mental issues going on. Don't waste your time on him. He's not worth it. Put him on ignore.

BAKO · 11-21-2012, 12:45 AM

Added him to ignore as well. He is worthless Piriod

Jay - SMASH · 11-21-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You should stop helping that clown Venusblogger. I tried it and instead of thanking me he was implying i was some kind of scammer. He will do the same thing to you. The guy has mental issues going on. Don't waste your time on him. He's not worth it. Put him on ignore.

CamTraffic · 11-21-2012, 05:42 AM

Does leadwrench re-use our Email data for any other purposes?

mopek1 · 11-21-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

This year I've eliminated webcams, am phasing out dating, and focused more on mainstream.

Is that your BeachBody thing or are you doing different mainstream projects?

Mr Pheer · 11-23-2012, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Is that your BeachBody thing or are you doing different mainstream projects?

Beachbody is one of my projects. It's actually pretty fun.

Have a few others.

mopek1 · 11-23-2012, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Beachbody is one of my projects. It's actually pretty fun.

Have a few others.

I was looking into it but they don't have the program open to Canadians yet

Are your other projects like BeachBody or are you makin pages and selling hard goods?

Mr Pheer · 11-23-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I was looking into it but they don't have the program open to Canadians yet

Are your other projects like BeachBody or are you makin pages and selling hard goods?

Canada is no problem, you just havent asked the right guy

My other projects are mostly web services.

mr pheer at gmail dot com if you want in Beachbody.

Sharky · 11-24-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Diomed

I guess what I'm wondering more about is the customer side of things and the quality of their experience.

If they join dating site X, and enter their details through the API.. Will they get bombarded with tons of different offers via email? Surely there are quality control issues with programs paying per lead on watered down customers who have been over exposed.

If programs are paying per lead, they are expecting an exclusive purchase of that live lead. Lead Wrench can/will help you make $$ off every user, including the ones that are not accepted by your main sponsor.

The biggest issue with API traffic for sponsors is abuse. Some scamming affiliates think they can load up a bunch of crap data and try to pass it off as dating users. This not only clogs the resources of the sponsors servers and fills their database with crap, but also causes issues with the sponsors Email delivery. Lead Wrench actively works with sponsors to help prevent this abuse in a number of ways. We don't want crap affiliates using our system and take measures to prevent this type of abuse.

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Originally Posted by brentbacardi

How is this different then Host & Post? Or is it basically the same?

Yes it is essentially the same thing. Host & Post implies a live user/lead where the Affiliate HOSTS the leadgen form and POSTS the live lead data to the sponsor/offer. API differs only as some leads can also be re-posted a few hours/days after the live transaction.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Romance

Sharky is a great guy

Mr. Romance

Thanks;-)

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You should stop helping that clown Venusblogger. I tried it and instead of thanking me he was implying i was some kind of scammer. He will do the same thing to you. The guy has mental issues going on. Don't waste your time on him. He's not worth it. Put him on ignore.

To this day I have not been contacted by anyone who identifies himself as VenusBlogger. He says he contacted me, but I haven't seen it.

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Does leadwrench re-use our Email data for any other purposes?

It depends on the billing package you choose. We never re-use any customer data, unless they have agreed to do so. Please feel free to contact me directly to find out more.

edgeprod · 11-24-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharky

To this day I have not been contacted by anyone who identifies himself as VenusBlogger. He says he contacted me, but I haven't seen it.

Why so serious, SHARKI? You won't tell us your pants size, that is SUSPIEICIOUSSES to me! PIRIOD!

edgeprod · 11-24-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Why so serious, SHARKI? You won't tell us your pants size, that is SUSPIEICIOUSSES to me! PIRIOD!

Ah crap, I forgot to change accounts before posting that.

Sharky · 11-24-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Ah crap, I forgot to change accounts before posting that.

OK, that made me laugh

VS_Jeff · 11-26-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

How much do a couple hundred domains pointing to dating api join form make you in 2012? I know you are leaving adult, I would like to know how that worked this year for you.

It is just a different animal now then before. I am seeing ridiculous ppc with mainstream adsense and just wondering does it make any sense at all to start 200 or so sites to push dating or cams?

Did you end up testing our cams API?

bean-aid · 11-26-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VS_Jeff

Did you end up testing our cams API?

Yes, then the site I was testing on took a *major* hit with last google update. Kinda bumbed me out so it is setup but the site sucks now. I have some others that I will integrate it with.

Penny24Seven · 11-26-2012, 02:17 PM

This thread delivers

money biz · 11-26-2012, 05:01 PM

lol this industry destroys its self so much. Signing someone up to multiple dating sites does not mean more money lol.

bean-aid · 11-26-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by money biz

lol this industry destroys its self so much. Signing someone up to multiple dating sites does not mean more money lol.

You tell them they are getting a free membership to whatever. Cold signups do not work well. Some cam sites offer free minutes on signup... so you tell them they are getting that and to check their email. Dating sites I'm sure have something to offer for free signups as well to try and upsell them later.

Mr Pheer · 11-26-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by money biz

lol this industry destroys its self so much. Signing someone up to multiple dating sites does not mean more money lol.

My stats would disagree with you.

money biz · 11-26-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

My stats would disagree with you.

I am sure your stats look good because your sponsors are basically letting you cookie stuff. Look I dont want to talk shit I dont want to hate on any ones hustle its just funny to watch how this industry fucks each other over.

davethedope · 11-27-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by money biz

I am sure your stats look good because your sponsors are basically letting you cookie stuff. Look I dont want to talk shit I dont want to hate on any ones hustle its just funny to watch how this industry fucks each other over.

so basically you're saying they're in the process of trying to ruin the api marketing strategy for everyone with a hair brained scheme, trying to look exclusive when it's really just for suckers?

11-20-2012, 08:32 AM	#52
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,222	Leadwrench isn't really revealing how they actually handle the data that is shared with them, so bear with me: PROCESS. 1. You collect user info on a dating pre-join page (for example). 2. You have that info/data that you have collected (a lot of it) and you pass it to Leadwrench, and they optimize it for the various dating sites that you're both using. 3. Monies are generated on leads and joins by sending the data to these various dating sites. COST. One would have to figure out what the originating traffic is costing the affiliate (if anything at all as it may be organic SE traffic), and the cost of passing it through Leadwrench (their fee). It reminds me a lot of emailing services. Customer has half a million email addresses, but no effective or safe way to hit those emails with offers so they use a service that is white-listed. In either case, you have to trust that 3rd party with your data and hope they never share it or use it themselves. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

11-20-2012, 12:53 PM	#56
Mr Pheer Mark Osterholt Sucks Cock Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 19,560	Just so PenisBlogger doesnt have a fucking stroke... This is some of what I do. I have my own dating site. I have hundreds of domains that get some traffic, they all look like a dating site as well. The join page on all of those sites, is the join page to my one dating site. Get it so far? The join page on the one dating site... is sent thru LeadWrench. Thats the fucking real deal. No secrets. Why can you not fucking understand it? You've been told this over and over. Edgeprod even said the same thing in this thread. Get it through your thick fucking skull, you god damned retard on wheels. __________________ King Mark: "I don't welch." <--- and then he welched...

11-20-2012, 01:53 PM	#58
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,222	Hey Sharky, thanks for the demo today on our call. It opened my eyes to what Leadwrench does. Looking forward to using your service! __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

11-20-2012, 06:19 PM	#63
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11-20-2012, 08:23 PM	#65
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,165	I guess what I'm wondering more about is the customer side of things and the quality of their experience. If they join dating site X, and enter their details through the API.. Will they get bombarded with tons of different offers via email? Surely there are quality control issues with programs paying per lead on watered down customers who have been over exposed. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

11-20-2012, 01:54 PM	#59
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11-20-2012, 05:04 PM	#61
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11-20-2012, 09:18 PM	#66
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11-20-2012, 11:05 PM	#70
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11-21-2012, 12:42 AM	#72
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	You should stop helping that clown Venusblogger. I tried it and instead of thanking me he was implying i was some kind of scammer. He will do the same thing to you. The guy has mental issues going on. Don't waste your time on him. He's not worth it. Put him on ignore.

11-21-2012, 12:45 AM	#73
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11-21-2012, 05:42 AM	#75
CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,529	Does leadwrench re-use our Email data for any other purposes? __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE!

11-26-2012, 02:17 PM	#86
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11-26-2012, 05:01 PM	#87
money biz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 930	lol this industry destroys its self so much. Signing someone up to multiple dating sites does not mean more money lol.