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Old 12-14-2012, 06:31 PM   #1
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Completely Offended Lorna Morgan on fb. :(

she removed my comment and I am sure, considers me a "stupid yank". But why the English feel as though they can just bitch about America being stupid for allowing guns. Well, the 2nd amendment was enacted as a proclamation by George Washington to kill as many Brits as possible. It is history. It happened.

I own guns and there are so many Americans that do not abuse this right. When 1 percent of the population goes on a shooting spree, I just do not believe that we should change our constitution out of FEAR of shit like this happening all of the time. Because, guns, legal or not, horrors like this would continue to happen, imho.
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During the revolution, we killed, beheaded, tortured or imprisoned over 40,000 British, so much destruction that the King himself said that "you can have your damned country" and left. I have no problems with the English at all, but taking shit down that you don't agree with, why even say anything? Especially about guns. Do you really think that Americans give 2 shits about what YOU think about gun control?!?!? This country was born out of fire. The forefathers intended the law as a safeguard of foreign AND domestic threats, end of story. No if's and's or but's. I am totally stoked that you love your government and trust them so much that you gave up your gun rights, if your not in the U.S.. It won't change here.

Regardless, I apologized, for my manner of a retort. I think that the gun issue though is going to change by Americans, not foreigners. If it changes at all. It is a U.S. issue, not a world issue. I'm sorry, but imho it's completely retarded to hear some of the stupid shit that has come out of people's mouths today about gun control. I don't mean to offend anyone at all, I like everyone here, but this is a U.S. issue.

It's like me throwing my 2 cents in about gun control in France, for fucksakes.
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The British always think we care about their opinion. It's almost cute in a way.
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If 1% were going on shooting sprees we would all be fucked...
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I own guns and there are so many Americans that do not abuse this right. When 1 percent of the population goes on a shooting spree, I just do not believe that we should change our constitution out of FEAR of shit like this happening all of the time. Because, guns, legal or not, horrors like this would continue to happen, imho.
1% are not involved in shooting sprees.
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thanks, it was a figure of speech, exact numbers are .09 of one percent.
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1% is not a figure of speech.

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More on point.

I had my mum ring me today about this mass murder as she is a primary school teacher. she was pretty distraught talking about her grankids and kids she teaches. i think it is fucking disgusting that Americans are trying to defend guns when a fucking gun has killed 20 young kids. Fuck you idiots - think about all the familes that have been devastated today and fuck your god damn fucking idiot freedom when it ocmes to guns!
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An American saying what goes on in their country is to do with Americans only and fuck all to do with the rest of the world = lolofl. Sorry, I have no gripe with any race/religion/country/etc, but that did make me laugh :D (and I do get that you aren't America)
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During the revolution, we killed, beheaded, tortured or imprisoned over 40,000 British, so much destruction that the King himself said that "you can have your damned country" and left. I have no problems with the English at all, but taking shit down that you don't agree with, why even say anything? Especially about guns. Do you really think that Americans give 2 shits about what YOU think about gun control?!?!? This country was born out of fire. The forefathers intended the law as a safeguard of foreign AND domestic threats, end of story. No if's and's or but's. I am totally stoked that you love your government and trust them so much that you gave up your gun rights, if your not in the U.S.. It won't change here.

Regardless, I apologized, for my manner of a retort. I think that the gun issue though is going to change by Americans, not foreigners. If it changes at all. It is a U.S. issue, not a world issue. I'm sorry, but imho it's completely retarded to hear some of the stupid shit that has come out of people's mouths today about gun control. I don't mean to offend anyone at all, I like everyone here, but this is a U.S. issue.

It's like me throwing my 2 cents in about gun control in France, for fucksakes.
You do realise that the reason why The British Empire withdrew from America was not because of you guys but becasue it didn't want to go into a full scale war with the second largest empire in existance at the time (the French) over some wasteland that was of only use for growing tobacco? It's cute that you guys go on about defeating the Brits when we just didn't want the country that much anyway. Honestly do you really think a few thousand men could have stopped the full might of the largest empire the world has ever seen if it had gotten into full swing?
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You do realise that the reason why The British Empire withdrew from America was not because of you guys but becasue it didn't want to go into a full scale war with the second largest empire in existance at the time (the French) over some wasteland that was of only use for growing tobacco? It's cute that you guys go on about defeating the Brits when we just didn't want the country that much anyway. Honestly do you really think a few thousand men could have stopped the full might of the largest empire the world has ever seen if it had gotten into full swing?
what kind of stupid pill did you take this morning?

A few thousand men? You need to do some reading, the British Army only had 48,000 men and the might of the great British Navy did fight and were defeated by American revolutionaries who had nothing at the beginning of the war to fight, no national army or navy, no experience in war.

"About 171,000 sailors served in the Royal Navy during the war; about a quarter had been pressed into service. About 1,240 were killed in battle, while 18,500 died from disease. The greatest killer was scurvy, a disease which had been shown to be preventable by issuing lemon or lime juice to sailors but was not taken seriously. Scurvy would be eradicated in the Royal Navy in 1790s by the chairman of the Navy's Sick and Hurt Board, Gilbert Blane. About 42,000 British sailors deserted during the war."

You got your ass handed to you, those who are colonized always win eventually against their colonial masters. And within a short period of time that 'wasteland' turned into the greatest story ever told in mankind's history - a democracy, of the people, by the people, for the people.
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what kind of stupid pill did you take this morning?

A few thousand men? You need to do some reading, the British Army only had 48,000 men and the might of the great British Navy did fight and were defeated by American revolutionaries who had nothing at the beginning of the war to fight, no national army or navy, no experience in war.

"About 171,000 sailors served in the Royal Navy during the war; about a quarter had been pressed into service. About 1,240 were killed in battle, while 18,500 died from disease. The greatest killer was scurvy, a disease which had been shown to be preventable by issuing lemon or lime juice to sailors but was not taken seriously. Scurvy would be eradicated in the Royal Navy in 1790s by the chairman of the Navy's Sick and Hurt Board, Gilbert Blane. About 42,000 British sailors deserted during the war."

You got your ass handed to you, those who are colonized always win eventually against their colonial masters. And within a short period of time that 'wasteland' turned into the greatest story ever told in mankind's history - a democracy, of the people, by the people, for the people.
Read some history. If not for France, the USA would not exist. Nothing to be ashamed of but it is hard to do a revolution without some source of cash and arms.
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You got your ass handed to you, those who are colonized always win eventually against their colonial masters. And within a short period of time that 'wasteland' turned into the greatest story ever told in mankind's history - a democracy, of the people, by the people, for the people.
Vietnam?

BTW Why do you think Brits are called Limeys?
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Gun laws work everywhere but in the USA where we have such weird ones. This is clearly proven but we are so afraid that at any moment we need to storm the white house we are unable to change our situation.
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Then the same British people kept you out of Canada in 1812, while your great nation was also killing eachover.
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Then the same British people kept you out of Canada in 1812, while your great nation was also killing eachover.
please read history Our goal was not to seize Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
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I had my mum ring me today about this mass murder as she is a primary school teacher. she was pretty distraught talking about her grankids and kids she teaches. i think it is fucking disgusting that Americans are trying to defend guns when a fucking gun has killed 20 young kids. Fuck you idiots - think about all the familes that have been devastated today and fuck your god damn fucking idiot freedom when it ocmes to guns!
I respect your opinion, but the 2nd amendment will never go away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_...s_Constitution
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Read some history. If not for France, the USA would not exist. Nothing to be ashamed of but it is hard to do a revolution without some source of cash and arms.
Yes, you are right, the French did play an invaluable part in our birth!
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During the revolution, we killed, beheaded, tortured or imprisoned over 40,000 British, so much destruction that the King himself said that "you can have your damned country" and left.
The King funded both sides of the revolution, all that happened was overt control went to covert. That's why almost all the presidents are related to the Queen; this is covert control through secret societies.

There's a similar scam going on in the UK where we pretend that the British Royal Family are just a tourist attraction.

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Read some history. If not for France, the USA would not exist. Nothing to be ashamed of but it is hard to do a revolution without some source of cash and arms.
France barely teased us with money and then turned us down. Id like the thank the Dutch for kick starting our currency.
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there are some sick fucks out there in the world that just want to
see the world, ended. Guns, or no guns, these people just want to
terrorize everyone.

Case in point, the tragedy that happened in Columbine... It's pointless,
it's senseless, terrorizing people. Although, in the case of Columbine,
the kids were bullied, still that was not an excuse to take the lives of
those people, by any stretch of the imagination.

Sad as this video is, guns were a catalyst, the machines themselves did
not kill those poor people, the fucking idiots behind them did. And it has
chenged Colorado, and the theatre shootings this past summer have also
changed the state. And there are some genuinely good people here.

But some make it seem like if your for guns, your for killing, and that simply
is not the case. My, as well as the world's hearts go out to these innocent
children that were do tragically murdered yesterday...
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Imagine if the Principle of the school was packing. Imagine if the nice lady at the front desk had a shotgun pointed at your balls when you walked up. Imagine if the Principles secretary packed a colt 45 just waiting for some stupid kid to walk in firing.

Then the kids ALL would have survived. There might be 1 or 2 adult deaths. There might be 3 or 4 adults shot, but not dead.

Nations without guns still have violence!

In China a man sliced up more kids then this guy shot!

Take away guns and you will see gun deaths fall and knife deaths rise. Blunt force trauma will rise. People intent on killing are going to kill even if they don't have a gun to do it.
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Imagine if the Principle of the school was packing. Imagine if the nice lady at the front desk had a shotgun pointed at your balls when you walked up. Imagine if the Principles secretary packed a colt 45 just waiting for some stupid kid to walk in firing.

Then the kids ALL would have survived. There might be 1 or 2 adult deaths. There might be 3 or 4 adults shot, but not dead.

Nations without guns still have violence!

In China a man sliced up more kids then this guy shot!

Take away guns and you will see gun deaths fall and knife deaths rise. Blunt force trauma will rise. People intent on killing are going to kill even if they don't have a gun to do it.
Clearly more guns and a shootout between teachers and this psycho is a much better scenario in the mind of you gun nuts than thinking about how maybe this could have all been prevented if this psycho didn't have easy access to guns. I don't know about you, but I'd rather take my chances with someone armed with a knife than a bunch of guns, but hey.

It's bad enough for a civilized country to have their citizens armed to their teeth. It's even worse for people to romanticize the whole idea of guns like many in America do. One day this will change. Just like slavery, the rights of women, segregation, etc. It may not be in my lifetime but eventually it will and this neanderthal ideology will become a crazy minority rather than the norm.
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Imagine if the Principle of the school was packing. Imagine if the nice lady at the front desk had a shotgun pointed at your balls when you walked up. Imagine if the Principles secretary packed a colt 45 just waiting for some stupid kid to walk in firing.

Then the kids ALL would have survived. There might be 1 or 2 adult deaths. There might be 3 or 4 adults shot, but not dead.

Nations without guns still have violence!

In China a man sliced up more kids then this guy shot!

Take away guns and you will see gun deaths fall and knife deaths rise. Blunt force trauma will rise. People intent on killing are going to kill even if they don't have a gun to do it.
None of the children in the Chinese attack yesterday died. None. I bet all those parents in Conn. wish the attacker had used a knife instead of a gun. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/15/wo...html?hpt=hp_t2
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Clearly more guns and a shootout between teachers and this psycho is a much better scenario in the mind of you gun nuts than thinking about how maybe this could have all been prevented if this psycho didn't have easy access to guns. I don't know about you, but I'd rather take my chances with someone armed with a knife than a bunch of guns, but hey.

It's bad enough for a civilized country to have their citizens armed to their teeth. It's even worse for people to romanticize the whole idea of guns like many in America do. One day this will change. Just like slavery, the rights of women, segregation, etc. It may not be in my lifetime but eventually it will and this neanderthal ideology will become a crazy minority rather than the norm.
...well, God help any country that would ever try to invade us
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The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun..........think about it.....
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You do realise that the reason why The British Empire withdrew from America was not because of you guys but becasue it didn't want to go into a full scale war with the second largest empire in existance at the time (the French) over some wasteland that was of only use for growing tobacco? It's cute that you guys go on about defeating the Brits when we just didn't want the country that much anyway. Honestly do you really think a few thousand men could have stopped the full might of the largest empire the world has ever seen if it had gotten into full swing?
Bullshit.

You better check your history.

You wrote:

"Honestly do you really think a few thousand men could have stopped the full might of the largest empire the world has ever seen if it had gotten into full swing?"

Um, that is EXACTLY what those few thousand men did! The Empire got its ass kicked and good!

"The Battle of Yorktown 1781

General George Washington's resounding defeat of Lord Cornwallis's British army; causing the British to surrender and effectively ending the American Revolutionary War."

http://www.britishbattles.com/battle-yorktown.htm

The Empire got is ass kicked by what it regarded as a bunch of fuckin' hillbillies!

Led by this man:



Jesus Christ, you Brits are still so Goddamned primitive that you retain kings and queens and buy'em Rolls-Royces!

How quaint!:



Bunch fuckin' SERFS!

AND.........because you fucking LOST the Revoultionary War and LOST the American Colonies, you LOST access to all the forests which fucked up your navy forever!

You had already completely DENUDED the entire British Isles of any kind of meaningful forests in your vain and arrogant quest for Empire!

And then in 1812 we sank MORE of your fucking aging ships!

Ever hear of the Guerriere?

LOL!

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/e...a/con-guer.htm

"A quarter-hour of intense gunnery by Constitution, delivered with much superior accuracy, battered Guerriere in the hull and masts. The British frigate's mizzenmast fell over the side, crippling her ability to maneuver. Constitution then moved ahead to rake Guerriere, whose bowsprit caught in the American's mizzen rigging. Firing continued while the two ships were thus tangled, and both sides prepared boarding parties. Marksmen in the mast tops blazed away at exposed personnel, with deadly effect. Many officers and men were thus killed, including Constitution's Marine lieutenant. Others, Captain Dacres among them, were wounded. As the ships separated, Guerriere's foremast collapsed, pulling down the mainmast with it. She was now a "defenseless hulk", and surrendered at 7 PM, when Constitution approached to renew the action after making brief repairs to her modest damages. British casualties were more than five times those of the Americans, and Guerriere was beyond saving. Her surviving crewmen were taken off the next day, she was set afire and soon blew up. Constitition then returned to Boston with her prisoners, arriving on 30 August."



LOL!

You fuckin' LOST TWICE!

The USA also saved your fuckin' pitiful asses in not one but TWO World Wars!

Don't like the USA?

GO FUCK YOURSELF!






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Christ, do they REALLY teach you that in American schools? No wonder Americans have a reputation for being ever-so-slightly retarded.
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thanks, it was a figure of speech, exact numbers are .09 of one percent.

I'm getting 0.0000000033

What is your math here?
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I'm getting 0.0000000033

What is your math here?
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/us/perce...t=hp_inthenews
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nice to see so many people with no respect
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If the shooter's mother didn't have that nice gun collection at home, maybe he would have thought twice before needing to illegally acquire them?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2306913.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...443913/?page=2
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Fucking hilarious arguing with anti-English americans speaking English.

You seem to forget where you came from rather easily.
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Jesus Christ, you Brits are still so Goddamned primitive that you retain kings and queens and buy'em Rolls-Royces!
This alone is brilliant. The USA has to be the most Primitive nation in the west. One of the most forward thinking nations in the world Holland / The Netherlands, still has Royals.

Your country is turning into a collective of people from all over the world who hate their own country, and pretend to be from somewhere else at the expense of actually creating your own.

The biggest oxymoron I have ever heard in my life is this: American Culture.

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Fucking hilarious arguing with anti-English americans speaking English.

You seem to forget where you came from rather easily.
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This alone is brilliant. The USA has to be the most Primitive nation in the west. One of the most forward thinking nations in the world Holland / The Netherlands, still has Royals.

Your country is turning into a collective of people from all over the world who hate their own country, and pretend to be from somewhere else at the expense of actually creating your own.

The biggest oxymoron I have ever heard in my life is this: American Culture.
Actually, I'm doing the same thing here by painting all you guys with the same brush as this digital divas retard. I know not all people from the US think like this idiot. If you do! Then feel free to:

1. Ignore this and go eat your favourite foods named after places in Europe which you're apparently not from or have ever heard of.

2. Pretend you're not from somewhere other than where you live today.

3. Pretend to be free, even though you actually are not.

4. Respond to me in Miqmaq or whatever native tongue you speak.

4a. If you really are a native and true American, I am sorry my ancestors left your land in the hands of these people and you suffer because of it.
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Hey now, no need to be calling people names, Si. The original post was a vent. Nothing more, regarding foreigners putting two cents on gun control.
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This alone is brilliant. The USA has to be the most Primitive nation in the west. One of the most forward thinking nations in the world Holland / The Netherlands, still has Royals.

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LOL yes very primitive, the country who gave the world the greatest technical innovation of the past 100 years, the one that provides you the miniscule income that your meager skills can produce, the Internet - Made in America! And the home computer.
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Imagine if the Principle of the school was packing. Imagine if the nice lady at the front desk had a shotgun pointed at your balls when you walked up. Imagine if the Principles secretary packed a colt 45 just waiting for some stupid kid to walk in firing.

Then the kids ALL would have survived. There might be 1 or 2 adult deaths. There might be 3 or 4 adults shot, but not dead.

Nations without guns still have violence!

In China a man sliced up more kids then this guy shot!

Take away guns and you will see gun deaths fall and knife deaths rise. Blunt force trauma will rise. People intent on killing are going to kill even if they don't have a gun to do it.
Wow what an idiotic way of thinking lmao
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How about preventing the events instead of arguing who is gonna survive such events?
These ill people need help, the system and society need to be there, pick up and help these people BEFORE they go on killing sprees.

Problem is, USA is only united when it comes to war and Olympics, any other time its land of the free, everyone for them selves.
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LOL yes very primitive, the country who gave the world the greatest technical innovation of the past 100 years, the one that provides you the miniscule income that your meager skills can produce, the Internet - Made in America! And the home computer.
www - british inventor, computer - british too next you'll be saying an american invented the car
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www - british inventor, computer - british too next you'll be saying an american invented the car
If I'm not mistaken, the Germans did that
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1% is not a figure of speech.

EDIT

More on point.

I had my mum ring me today about this mass murder as she is a primary school teacher. she was pretty distraught talking about her grankids and kids she teaches. i think it is fucking disgusting that Americans are trying to defend guns when a fucking gun has killed 20 young kids. Fuck you idiots - think about all the familes that have been devastated today and fuck your god damn fucking idiot freedom when it ocmes to guns!
I agree, fuck guns and gun nut collectors.
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Hey now, no need to be calling people names, Si. The original post was a vent. Nothing more, regarding foreigners putting two cents on gun control.
I get fed up with all this American Vs British Vs Australian Vs Canadian Vs New Zealand Vs Whoever shit, it's retarded.

Anyway, I would expect nothing less than people who don't live there, or have never been to the US to be posting comments about it, we are always talking about what happens in other countries these days. "we should do something about it" or "we should help these people" or all them sorts of things. It's what happens.

And by the way, a British boy was apparently killed during the shooting.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-massacre.html
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www - british inventor, computer - british too next you'll be saying an american invented the car
http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/...he_british.php

http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/scrapbook/computer.html

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If I'm not mistaken, the Germans did that
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/auto.html

France / Scotland / US whatever you want. I've always though of Benz and Daimler as the inventors. But there were other thing going on previous and around the same time.
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