Hiring Affiliate Manager, not sure what to offer them.

[pornopenguin]

Hi, I have never had the need for an affiliate manager before but it's getting to be more then I can manage and I need to hire someone. I was thinking of paying them a base salary or a percentage of the people they signup whichever was greater. I want to be fair about things so they are motivated to get me affiliates but I still want to make money too. I have some exclusives on some AVN winners so they should not have a problem getting webmasters to promote my content. Any suggestions on what numbers to start with ?

Thanks

[Sly]

You have some nice domains.

Good luck on your search.

[Barefootsies]

$2000.00/month base salary + sweetener based on their results or performance.

If they are worth a damn, they will want incentives based on their performance versus asking for a flat salary. There are a lot of ghost ships floating around the industry who cannot deliver no matter how many tools you give them. Two words, 'choose wisely'. Get references, and do your due diligence on their background and performance.

Good luck. You'll need it.

[pornopenguin]

Thanks what's a fair sweetener? Like 10% of the total ?

[scottybuzz]

Hi, what is your email address please?

[Rochard]

Base salary and a percentage.

Set goals. Say "Once we reach $10k a day in sales I'll give you a $10k bonus. Nothing motivates people like $10k in cash.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

$2000.00/month base salary + sweetener based on their results or performance.

If they are worth a damn, they will want incentives based on their performance versus asking for a flat salary. There are a lot of ghost ships floating around the industry who cannot deliver no matter how many tools you give them. Two words, 'choose wisely'. Get references, and do your due diligence on their background and performance.

Good luck. You'll need it.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by pornopenguin

Hi, I have never had the need for an affiliate manager before but it's getting to be more then I can manage and I need to hire someone. I was thinking of paying them a base salary or a percentage of the people they signup whichever was greater. I want to be fair about things so they are motivated to get me affiliates but I still want to make money too. I have some exclusives on some AVN winners so they should not have a problem getting webmasters to promote my content. Any suggestions on what numbers to start with ?

Thanks

Is it the prog in your sig?

It just has celebritycash sites listed - What am I missing?

[kristin]

$25k + $1/sale

[pornopenguin]

Sorry about the signature file and confusion. Its a new program that we are launching. Thanks for all the input seems about $25k is a good base plus about 10% of what they bring in. Now if I didn't want to deal with benefits and just pay them on a 1099 is that still fair or should it change?

[Supz]

You should hire barefootsies.

[epitome]

Free membership to your site + $60/sale

(don't take my advice)

[adultforum]

A fix salary (2-3k /month ) + % of sales would please a lot of guys who dreamed to be affiliate managers for a porn site.

[Klen]

I agree with 2k + % of sales.But be careful to pick,when i remember how some people who suppose to be affiliate manager respond after one month after message is sent or not at all make me wonder what they are doing all day and night.Or cases like one guy open a thread here with title "contact me" and then he not responding for two weeks.And also cases where programs dont bother to put their affiliate manager contact details on contact part of website,only mail form which totally dont have sense since there is so many communications method available.

[Lace]

$2k/mo seems fair along with a percentage of sales. I'd do a bonus as well so they have more of a reason to hit their sales goal. It's getting harder and harder every day though for affiliate managers to pick up new sales. Was just speaking to a program owner about this yesterday and how hard it's been. There are plenty of ways to generate sales, but unless you have someone who really understands what they're doing, it's not going to happen.

[HandballJim]

It also depends on where your located, costs of living can vary.

[waltgator]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

$2000.00/month base salary + sweetener based on their results or performance.

If they are worth a damn, they will want incentives based on their performance versus asking for a flat salary. There are a lot of ghost ships floating around the industry who cannot deliver no matter how many tools you give them. Two words, 'choose wisely'. Get references, and do your due diligence on their background and performance.

Good luck. You'll need it.

great advice!
and good luck

[The Porn Nerd]

The days of affiliate "managers" are over, for the most part.
Affiliates don't need to be "managed".
If an affiliate is worth ANYthing then they've learned at this point what they need to do to make sales. Newbies, while important, come and go but the real, sales-producing affiliates you need to find individually. An affiliate manager may help initially but, over time, the 2% of affiliates worth a damn will already be covered and then you're left with an affiliate "manager" "managing" a bunch of little guys not worth anyone's time.

Two cents.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

The days of affiliate "managers" are over, for the most part.
Affiliates don't need to be "managed".
If an affiliate is worth ANYthing then they've learned at this point what they need to do to make sales. Newbies, while important, come and go but the real, sales-producing affiliates you need to find individually. An affiliate manager may help initially but, over time, the 2% of affiliates worth a damn will already be covered and then you're left with an affiliate "manager" "managing" a bunch of little guys not worth anyone's time.

Two cents.

Well,maybe more accurate description would be "sales manager"since what they mostly is do is spamming boards/mails/etc then actually helping affiliates.

[Yo Adrian]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

$2000.00/month base salary + sweetener based on their results or performance.

If they are worth a damn, they will want incentives based on their performance versus asking for a flat salary. There are a lot of ghost ships floating around the industry who cannot deliver no matter how many tools you give them. Two words, 'choose wisely'. Get references, and do your due diligence on their background and performance.

Good luck. You'll need it.

"Ghost ships".. that's a great way to describe them actually

As for salary, $2k base + commission might work for some, but you may need to pay more for a guy with experience and reputability. None of the bigger reps I know of would touch anything below $3,500 + a cut of the action.

[Phoenix]

Do you have pps?
If so lets talk

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

The days of affiliate "managers" are over, for the most part.
Affiliates don't need to be "managed".
If an affiliate is worth ANYthing then they've learned at this point what they need to do to make sales. Newbies, while important, come and go but the real, sales-producing affiliates you need to find individually. An affiliate manager may help initially but, over time, the 2% of affiliates worth a damn will already be covered and then you're left with an affiliate "manager" "managing" a bunch of little guys not worth anyone's time.

Two cents.

I disagree, especially for large programs. They are very necessary as a point of contact and face of the program. The security of being able to easily contact a company about problems and the likes is very valuable

[Kelli58]

If you want some board whore with little to no experience than $2k + commissions will work just fine but for those who can actually do something more than spam boards is going to cost you quite a bit more. I talked to a friend of mine who still does this kind of job and has about 10 years experience, he said $3.2k a month plus $.50 a join for every single affiliate under his umbrella.

Surprisingly he doesn't get paid on rebills. I would have thought that he would have but anywho that's another subject for another day.

He also said he gets a year Christmas bonus based on his total annual sales for that year. He didn't indicate how much that was but he said it was agreed upon in advance and is written into his contract.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

The days of affiliate "managers" are over, for the most part.
Affiliates don't need to be "managed".
If an affiliate is worth ANYthing then they've learned at this point what they need to do to make sales. Newbies, while important, come and go but the real, sales-producing affiliates you need to find individually. An affiliate manager may help initially but, over time, the 2% of affiliates worth a damn will already be covered and then you're left with an affiliate "manager" "managing" a bunch of little guys not worth anyone's time.

Two cents.

you are assuming that everyone uses the exact same method to make sales, you assume incorrectly. I have changed peoples directions a number of times over the years, some of them very successful in the past but things changed on them for one reason or another. Good webmasters are constantly learning and follow the money, not just repeat what they know. You'd think someone with the access and the experience with as many sales techniques as I do would be worth something to someone huh? ;)

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

you are assuming that everyone uses the exact same method to make sales, you assume incorrectly. I have changed peoples directions a number of times over the years, some of them very successful in the past but things changed on them for one reason or another. Good webmasters are constantly learning and follow the money, not just repeat what they know. You'd think someone with the access and the experience with as many sales techniques as I do would be worth something to someone huh? ;)

You are correct to the extent that I assume everyone does business as I do - meaning, even larger companies would have perhaps 5-10% of their affiliates who do 90% of the business. In cases like that affiliate "managers" aren't rally needed. But maybe they are for a company with 100,000 affiliates or something.

All I know is, GFY is filled with affiliates complaining about programs large and small, and how it's getting harder for them to make sales so do the math.

PS: I'm sure you're underpaid PR_Glen!!

[jigg]

depends what you want them to do. Anyone of them would or should be asking for base+performance

I had a base + % of sales offer from someone who wanted me to handle their affiliate program.