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Old 03-20-2013, 06:47 AM   #51
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The crazy thing about this would be that the restaurant would build the cost of the employee's wages into the menu and the " tip" just becomes mandatory. Either way you pay. Now that waitress that fills your drink is in less of a hurry because she could care less what your dining experience was, so long as you don't complain
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All that will happen then is the prices on the menu will go up. Either way, they win, you lose. If you don't want to tip your server, stay home and cook for yourself and deal with the mess you leave. People who don't tip are shit birds.
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I don't know what kind of shit holes the rest of you want to eat in but if I have to wait in a line to pay and don't get full service I'm going somewhere else.. may as well be burger king if i have to do that..


oh.. 50 people who probably shouldn't be eating out! ;)
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:01 AM   #52
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Waiters in the US make crazy amounts of money in tips and still cry all day long how they have to survive on tips.
once again franck knows the USA haha where did you get this watching TV? I know a lot of hot ass waitresses and they make good money but also but their buts if they wanna do it too. If they wanna take on 6 tables and still make everyone happy they have to have a lot of things besides looks to get it done. I would not want that job.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:13 AM   #53
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:39 AM   #54
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Sigh... another discussion between those who feel they're entitled to be paid no matter how they perform and those who feel they should be paid based on their performance.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:44 AM   #55
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Sigh... another discussion between those who feel they're entitled to be paid no matter how they perform and those who feel they should be paid based on their performance.
When they do a good job and get stiffed then what?
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:50 AM   #56
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Society would not collapse if the system was repaired/changed. Just look at some of these stories. A guy gives a tip and sees the waitress took more money on a receipt doesn't bug you? Another guy has a waiter take almost as much as the food costs and that's not a problem? The phrase "mandatory tip" exists and it's no biggie? By reading this you agree to pay me $10 via paypal. If more than 6 of you read it, it's $20.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:53 AM   #57
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When they do a good job and get stiffed then what?
When you get struck by lightening... then what?
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:54 AM   #58
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This is idiotic. There's many industries that manage perfectly good service without the whole tipping angle involved at all.

Waiting is a shit job and the sooner it's always paid like one the better.
Its true there are many other industries that do have great service without the tipping angle, but many of them are paid well to do it. But there are many industries that show really poorly as far as service is concerned. Not sure where you are from, but I would argue that service in the U.S for some reason is really above par. Especially in restaurants, so much so that I think they take it a bit too far. Compared with the few cities I've visited in Europe where service was apathetic at best. Here in Canada its somewhat similar to the U.S, but a step down (our wages are higher so the tip % tends to be a little lower)

It does take a certain type of person to be in that type of job. They eat a lot of shit some days and still have to maintain that smile, and generally they are doing it for an hour at a time, not just the quick 2 minute interaction.


I actually like tipping for good service. If I go to my local coffee shop and the person remembers how I like my coffee, they should be rewarded for it. They don't have to remember, but it shows that bit extra.
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Society would not collapse if the system was repaired/changed. Just look at some of these stories. A guy gives a tip and sees the waitress took more money on a receipt doesn't bug you? Another guy has a waiter take almost as much as the food costs and that's not a problem? The phrase "mandatory tip" exists and it's no biggie? By reading this you agree to pay me $10 via paypal. If more than 6 of you read it, it's $20.
Apparently, it will. It seems people can't choose to be or not be wait staff in a crap restaurant where they won't make any money at all. Also, it appears that consumers can't vote for what they want with their Dollars in a capitalist nation. What to do... what to do. How do we create this perfect Utopia where everyone just wakes up and gets everything they need handed to them while doing the absolute bare minimum and never having to try???
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When people pull out of dining out entirely because they've been burnt on tips then the scale could be tipping the other way, pun intended.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:16 AM   #61
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Sigh... another discussion between those who feel they're entitled to be paid no matter how they perform and those who feel they should be paid based on their performance.
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Apparently, it will. It seems people can't choose to be or not be wait staff in a crap restaurant where they won't make any money at all.
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How do we create this perfect Utopia where everyone just wakes up and gets everything they need handed to them while doing the absolute bare minimum and never having to try???
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:43 AM   #62
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good service = tip, bad service = no tip, that's the way it should be world wide, end of. If someone sucks at their job why the fuck should they be rewarded, I don't expect it from my clients so why should I accept it myself. Employers should pay their staff appropriately, they are the real winners... $2 per hour, wtf?!?!
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