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Old 04-20-2013, 06:49 PM   #1
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Who here thinks Jahar is innocent?

I do

Still not a single shred of evidence. I think his brother may have had something to do with it but not him
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:51 PM   #2
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You do realize there are photos of the two brothers together, a few minutes before the bombs went off, that show they no longer have backpacks with them; right?
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You do realize there are photos of the two brothers together, a few minutes before the bombs went off, that show they no longer have backpacks with them; right?
maybe they just set them down for a rest
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You do realize there are photos of the two brothers together, a few minutes before the bombs went off, that show they no longer have backpacks with them; right?
Picture? Link?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:54 PM   #12
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Holy fuck, since I actually have a life I am only remotely paying attention and know that.

How dense are you to be obsessing over this and not know this fact?

Dumber than I thought.
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Holy fuck, since I actually have a life I am only remotely paying attention and know that.

How dense are you to be obsessing over this and not know this fact?

Dumber than I thought.
There's still absolutely ZERO evidence they did this
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Glenn beck thinks it's an inside job as well

http://www.freepatriot.org/2013/04/2...is-inside-job/

Glen Beck has claimed that he has proof the federal government has covered up the Boston bombing as being carried out by Chechnya terrorists. He says that the bombing was actually carried out by Saudi nationals and that he has the evidence to prove it. He gives Obama until Monday to admit it or his show will reveal the evidence. Is this just to get extra attention or does he have something more? Glenn Beck has always done a great job at laying out facts in his arguments, but we will see. We do however know that on Monday an anonymous source said that the raids would happen on Friday and obviously that already came true. There is a lot of suspicious things surrounding the Boston bombings, but is it just conspiracy theories at work again?
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Glen Beck has claimed that he has proof the federal government has covered up the Boston bombing as being carried out by Chechnya terrorists. He says that the bombing was actually carried out by Saudi nationals and that he has the evidence to prove it. He gives Obama until Monday to admit it or his show will reveal the evidence. Is this just to get extra attention or does he have something more? Glenn Beck has always done a great job at laying out facts in his arguments, but we will see. We do however know that on Monday an anonymous source said that the raids would happen on Friday and obviously that already came true. There is a lot of suspicious things surrounding the Boston bombings, but is it just conspiracy theories at work again?
And if that doesn't prove they are guilty. I don't know what does.
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Regardless of the bombings, those two robbed a 7-11, killed a campus cop and hijacked a car and had explosives.

At least I don't have to look at that sad cock avatar with your bs posts, anymore..
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There's still absolutely ZERO evidence they did this
You're right. Since you seem to know so much, it may have been you.

Angry they are getting your credit?
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Regardless of the bombings, those two robbed a 7-11, killed a campus cop and hijacked a car and had explosives.

At least I don't have to look at that sad cock avatar with your bs posts, anymore..
They never robbed a 7-11 and we don't know about the other things
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Glen Beck has claimed that he has proof the federal government has covered up the Boston bombing as being carried out by Chechnya terrorists. He says that the bombing was actually carried out by Saudi nationals and that he has the evidence to prove it. He gives Obama until Monday to admit it or his show will reveal the evidence. Is this just to get extra attention or does he have something more? Glenn Beck has always done a great job at laying out facts in his arguments, but we will see. We do however know that on Monday an anonymous source said that the raids would happen on Friday and obviously that already came true. There is a lot of suspicious things surrounding the Boston bombings, but is it just conspiracy theories at work again?
Yea, this should be very interesting
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How about an eyewitness account? Nah you still wouldn't accept that as any kind of proof, would you?

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/bo...-1226625202011

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Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing the 27-year-old's legs apart.

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The FBI showed Mr Bauman the images and he was able to pick out the man he had seen.

Within hours the FBI had released photographs of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Tip-offs came pouring in immediately.
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Yeah, they covered that yesterday:

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At an earlier press conference morning, when Alben described the manhunt and standoff that resulted in the death of an MIT police officer, he also said that the two brothers robbed a 7-Eleven.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/topstories/...d-not-rob-7-11

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How about an eyewitness account? Nah you still wouldn't accept that as any kind of proof, would you?

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/bo...-1226625202011



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So a guy who was drugged up, just blown up and couldn't talk or see picked out the suspects??
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My bad, but they stole a car at the 7-11. It would have been robbed if it were a company car..
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So a guy who was drugged up, just blown up and couldn't talk or see picked out the suspects??
No, he wrote the original 8 words in the immediate aftermath.

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"Bag, saw the guy, looked right at me."
The rest of the info, description and such came out later while he was still in intensive care. The stories on it have been out since sometime yesterday. If you were informed as you think you are you would know that.

But that doesn't fit your chosen narrative so you will discount it somehow. There is no proof that you will ever accept, so why keep asking for it?

Edited in: All of that was apparent in the original post I made by the way, if you read it. The bombing happened Monday. The pictures were released Friday. The article I quoted stated that within hours [after he ided the pictures] the FBI released the pictures. So it would be obvious to anyone with any level of reading comprehension (especially someone like you with your MIT 4.0 GPA) that the identification from the pictures occurred on Friday.

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I think JohnnyClips is so worried about proving these guys innocent because they shared very similar views.

Could he be next? Should we be worried? Is he the type of person the tip line was setup for? Fits the profile. Extremist views. Socially isolated. Mildly retarded.
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But that doesn't fit your chosen narrative so you will discount it somehow. There is no proof that you will ever accept, so why keep asking for it?

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And that is the thing about all the conspiracy theorists.
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And that is the thing about all the conspiracy theorists.
It is quite sad. There are photos of the guys coming with bags and leaving without. There are photos of them within 5 feet of the 8 year old that was killed. They get into a fight with the cops, killing one.

It's not them though.
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And that is the thing about all the conspiracy theorists.
Yeah, my proof is from what I saw/heard. You posted a thread the other night when the chase was happening. I clicked into a link you had in there and then another link to a live feed from a Boston station. This was probably 12:30-1am Central. Thanks for that btw, the national news, over the air, did not cover any of that here. They just stayed on normal programming because noone knew it was the guys who had done the bombing yet. I ended up watching the local Boston feed through out. They did a good job, seemed to get closer than anyone else. ABC later was using the same feed I was watching.

At that point there was a chase going on. There was no talk about it being the Bombers. There was some speculation that it was whoever had killed the MIT cop but even that was stated in very couched terms. What they knew they had was someone that was openly shooting and throwing explosives.

It was not until they had had the big shoot out, some time after 2 in the morning my time, that they said it was the bombers. By that point one of them was dead so they knew who they were dealing with.

So, to think that they are probably innocent is to totally suspend belief. We would have to believe that they were running, with firearms and explosives in possession merely because their pictures had been shown or something like that.

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We had to believe that the person who got killed was not actually killed in the shoot out and the kid was planted in the boat (or was never in the boat).

I do not think our government is above reproach. I do think that just because I am paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get me. BUT, there are some things that are not conspiracies and that are not engineered.

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What blows my mind is that when the MIT cop got shot, no one immediately presumed it was them. They announced that just as we were getting ready to walk the dogs. goodgirl asked, "do you think it is them?" I said, "no doubt." The next day the media acted like it had not dawned on anyone.

Then, how the neighbor walked up to the boat and lifted the tarp; while the cops took an hour to arrest him is kind of funny.
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One thing I do wonder is if they ever meant to kill and not just maim. I know that sane people assume a bomb will kill, but I wonder with these guys.

They encountered a few people that were not law enforcement and they all lived when the easiest thing for the bombers to do would be to off them.

Wondering if they had some remorse after the fact. Especially considering the WBC tweet by the younger one.
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It is quite sad. There are photos of the guys coming with bags and leaving without. There are photos of them within 5 feet of the 8 year old that was killed. They get into a fight with the cops, killing one.

It's not them though.
So that's the only proof?

(p.s. there are no photos showing them with no bags)
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So that's the only proof?

(p.s. there are no photos showing them with no bags)
STFU and let the adults talk.
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Was that necessary? I would have thought the PBBC was above that sort of shit.

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hell it's his thread, you're the one stalking like a bitch in heat...start your own goddamn thread you fool
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One thing I do wonder is if they ever meant to kill and not just maim. I know that sane people assume a bomb will kill, but I wonder with these guys.

They encountered a few people that were not law enforcement and they all lived when the easiest thing for the bombers to do would be to off them.

Wondering if they had some remorse after the fact. Especially considering the WBC tweet by the younger one.
I am sure maiming was the biggest intent, just because of the type of bomb; they cause a lot of injuries for a significant distance. I don't think they had the balls to off someone up close and personal; the younger one did not want to die, the older brother probably did not care. I hear he said he had no friends here; sounds like a personal problem.

I am sure the younger one was scared shitless and had been in that boat for a long while.

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So that's the only proof?

(p.s. there are no photos showing them with no bags)
Yes, there are.
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9/11 Conspiracy
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20 wins in blackjack except against 21
20x21=420
420=Police code for Cannabis
Cannabis=Kush
Kush rhymes with BUSH
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hell it's his thread, you're the one stalking like a bitch in heat...start your own goddamn thread you fool
You're the only one that has proven himself to be a fool in the last 24 hours.

PS he's still alive.
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Holy fuck, since I actually have a life I am only remotely paying attention and know that.

How dense are you to be obsessing over this and not know this fact?

Dumber than I thought.
He is trolling.
He creates threads like this just to get reactions like yours. It makes his day.
If you stop responding to him he will go away.
You should try it.
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Here is what we know:

-There are a lot of images and even a video of the two brother walks with bags.

-At least one of the brothers was in the location of where the bomb went off.

-As far as I've seen, there is one image that *maybe* shows he is not wearing a bad after the bomb.

- All police cars have video cameras now. Not one of them shot the chase or the arrest of the older brother. There are also no CCTV of this. Only images from a distance taken by others.

- The media TOTALLY botched this story. Info has been all over. It has been very poorly covered by everyone with conflicting information.

- There was one person "of interest" the FBI had before the brothers were suspects.

- One of the brothers is dead. The other captured.

- The dead brother had ties with terrorists, or at least was warned by Russia he did. The FBI checked him out and even talked to him. He came up clean.

- Everyone who knows them thinks they were set up. Even their friends.

- Everyone else is 100% convinced the brothers are guilty.

- If they did do it, they clearly didn't care about getting caught, or were not finished with their plans. Or, you could argue they didn't do it and that was why they didn't worry.

- In the age of a billion cameras, there is no footage of either brother putting the bags down or any 100% clear shots of both of them without the bags. There is also no footage of any gun battles with them. Only audio. There are eye witnesses who said there was no explosion when the older brother was killed. There are other witnesses who said there was. Either you heard / saw an explosion or you didn't, that is not something you mistake for a car alarm.

- Now it is said one brother ran the other over. Some sources say the brother blew himself up. Some say the police tackled him when he ran out of ammo. There is no proof of either, other than a single image of the dead brother with a large wound on his side.

- Even with the 1000s of police looking for him, it took a single civilian going out for a smoke to find the younger brother in his boat.

- Oddly, when captured, the younger brother did not blow himself up or put up much of a fight. Maybe he was out of ammo and explosives?

**** Boston was more or less militarized in a matter of a day, they went door to door without warrants and everyone just let them in, choosing safety over their personal property rights. Out of this entire story, THAT is the most impressive and disturbing part of the whole thing. An entire city just rolled over out of fear of one 19 year old kid.

Having said all of that, that is a very confusing, messy story with very little actual proof of anything other than what we have been told and a single image showing one brother possibly not having on a backpack. At this point it doesn't matter if they are guilty or not, because one is dead and the other may as well be. I would think that with all the cameras on police cars, all the CCTV around the city, and everyone who has a phone, that there would be more public visual evidence of the case and capture, or more images of them without the backpacks. There is no shortage of images them IN the backpacks, but only one questionable image of one brother without (unless I haven't seen them). So yea, very messy story. A lot of questions to be answered.
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Still not a single shred of evidence. I think his brother may have had something to do with it but not him
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Here is what we know:

-There are a lot of images and even a video of the two brother walks with bags.

-At least one of the brothers was in the location of where the bomb went off.

-As far as I've seen, there is one image that *maybe* shows he is not wearing a bad after the bomb.

- All police cars have video cameras now. Not one of them shot the chase or the arrest of the older brother. There are also no CCTV of this. Only images from a distance taken by others.

- The media TOTALLY botched this story. Info has been all over. It has been very poorly covered by everyone with conflicting information.

- There was one person "of interest" the FBI had before the brothers were suspects.

- One of the brothers is dead. The other captured.

- The dead brother had ties with terrorists, or at least was warned by Russia he did. The FBI checked him out and even talked to him. He came up clean.

- Everyone who knows them thinks they were set up. Even their friends.

- Everyone else is 100% convinced the brothers are guilty.

- If they did do it, they clearly didn't care about getting caught, or were not finished with their plans. Or, you could argue they didn't do it and that was why they didn't worry.

- In the age of a billion cameras, there is no footage of either brother putting the bags down or any 100% clear shots of both of them without the bags. There is also no footage of any gun battles with them. Only audio. There are eye witnesses who said there was no explosion when the older brother was killed. There are other witnesses who said there was. Either you heard / saw an explosion or you didn't, that is not something you mistake for a car alarm.

- Now it is said one brother ran the other over. Some sources say the brother blew himself up. Some say the police tackled him when he ran out of ammo. There is no proof of either, other than a single image of the dead brother with a large wound on his side.

- Even with the 1000s of police looking for him, it took a single civilian going out for a smoke to find the younger brother in his boat.

- Oddly, when captured, the younger brother did not blow himself up or put up much of a fight. Maybe he was out of ammo and explosives?

**** Boston was more or less militarized in a matter of a day, they went door to door without warrants and everyone just let them in, choosing safety over their personal property rights. Out of this entire story, THAT is the most impressive and disturbing part of the whole thing. An entire city just rolled over out of fear of one 19 year old kid.

Having said all of that, that is a very confusing, messy story with very little actual proof of anything other than what we have been told and a single image showing one brother possibly not having on a backpack. At this point it doesn't matter if they are guilty or not, because one is dead and the other may as well be. I would think that with all the cameras on police cars, all the CCTV around the city, and everyone who has a phone, that there would be more public visual evidence of the case and capture, or more images of them without the backpacks. There is no shortage of images them IN the backpacks, but only one questionable image of one brother without (unless I haven't seen them). So yea, very messy story. A lot of questions to be answered.
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Here is what we know:

-There are a lot of images and even a video of the two brother walks with bags.

-At least one of the brothers was in the location of where the bomb went off.

-As far as I've seen, there is one image that *maybe* shows he is not wearing a bad after the bomb.

- All police cars have video cameras now. Not one of them shot the chase or the arrest of the older brother. There are also no CCTV of this. Only images from a distance taken by others.

- The media TOTALLY botched this story. Info has been all over. It has been very poorly covered by everyone with conflicting information.

- There was one person "of interest" the FBI had before the brothers were suspects.

- One of the brothers is dead. The other captured.

- The dead brother had ties with terrorists, or at least was warned by Russia he did. The FBI checked him out and even talked to him. He came up clean.

- Everyone who knows them thinks they were set up. Even their friends.

- Everyone else is 100% convinced the brothers are guilty.

- If they did do it, they clearly didn't care about getting caught, or were not finished with their plans. Or, you could argue they didn't do it and that was why they didn't worry.

- In the age of a billion cameras, there is no footage of either brother putting the bags down or any 100% clear shots of both of them without the bags. There is also no footage of any gun battles with them. Only audio. There are eye witnesses who said there was no explosion when the older brother was killed. There are other witnesses who said there was. Either you heard / saw an explosion or you didn't, that is not something you mistake for a car alarm.

- Now it is said one brother ran the other over. Some sources say the brother blew himself up. Some say the police tackled him when he ran out of ammo. There is no proof of either, other than a single image of the dead brother with a large wound on his side.

- Even with the 1000s of police looking for him, it took a single civilian going out for a smoke to find the younger brother in his boat.

- Oddly, when captured, the younger brother did not blow himself up or put up much of a fight. Maybe he was out of ammo and explosives?

**** Boston was more or less militarized in a matter of a day, they went door to door without warrants and everyone just let them in, choosing safety over their personal property rights. Out of this entire story, THAT is the most impressive and disturbing part of the whole thing. An entire city just rolled over out of fear of one 19 year old kid.

Having said all of that, that is a very confusing, messy story with very little actual proof of anything other than what we have been told and a single image showing one brother possibly not having on a backpack. At this point it doesn't matter if they are guilty or not, because one is dead and the other may as well be. I would think that with all the cameras on police cars, all the CCTV around the city, and everyone who has a phone, that there would be more public visual evidence of the case and capture, or more images of them without the backpacks. There is no shortage of images them IN the backpacks, but only one questionable image of one brother without (unless I haven't seen them). So yea, very messy story. A lot of questions to be answered.
Well said...this is pretty much all we know

I am very curious as to what Glenn Beck will release on Monday or Tuesday regarding the person of interest, that Saudi National they had on Monday who is being "deported"

There is not a single shred of evidence these two guys have done anything yet
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Here is what we know:

-There are a lot of images and even a video of the two brother walks with bags.

-At least one of the brothers was in the location of where the bomb went off.

-As far as I've seen, there is one image that *maybe* shows he is not wearing a bad after the bomb.

- All police cars have video cameras now. Not one of them shot the chase or the arrest of the older brother. There are also no CCTV of this. Only images from a distance taken by others.

- The media TOTALLY botched this story. Info has been all over. It has been very poorly covered by everyone with conflicting information.

- There was one person "of interest" the FBI had before the brothers were suspects.

- One of the brothers is dead. The other captured.

- The dead brother had ties with terrorists, or at least was warned by Russia he did. The FBI checked him out and even talked to him. He came up clean.

- Everyone who knows them thinks they were set up. Even their friends.

- Everyone else is 100% convinced the brothers are guilty.

- If they did do it, they clearly didn't care about getting caught, or were not finished with their plans. Or, you could argue they didn't do it and that was why they didn't worry.

- In the age of a billion cameras, there is no footage of either brother putting the bags down or any 100% clear shots of both of them without the bags. There is also no footage of any gun battles with them. Only audio. There are eye witnesses who said there was no explosion when the older brother was killed. There are other witnesses who said there was. Either you heard / saw an explosion or you didn't, that is not something you mistake for a car alarm.

- Now it is said one brother ran the other over. Some sources say the brother blew himself up. Some say the police tackled him when he ran out of ammo. There is no proof of either, other than a single image of the dead brother with a large wound on his side.

- Even with the 1000s of police looking for him, it took a single civilian going out for a smoke to find the younger brother in his boat.

- Oddly, when captured, the younger brother did not blow himself up or put up much of a fight. Maybe he was out of ammo and explosives?

**** Boston was more or less militarized in a matter of a day, they went door to door without warrants and everyone just let them in, choosing safety over their personal property rights. Out of this entire story, THAT is the most impressive and disturbing part of the whole thing. An entire city just rolled over out of fear of one 19 year old kid.

Having said all of that, that is a very confusing, messy story with very little actual proof of anything other than what we have been told and a single image showing one brother possibly not having on a backpack. At this point it doesn't matter if they are guilty or not, because one is dead and the other may as well be. I would think that with all the cameras on police cars, all the CCTV around the city, and everyone who has a phone, that there would be more public visual evidence of the case and capture, or more images of them without the backpacks. There is no shortage of images them IN the backpacks, but only one questionable image of one brother without (unless I haven't seen them). So yea, very messy story. A lot of questions to be answered.

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