johnnyloadproductions

Here's a semi gaffee, let rapidgator tell you how much some of their most productive uploaders do in a day. Ever wonder?

Source: http://rapidgator.net/News/NewsList

That's probably more data than even the most prolific producers on here can hope to make in a lifetime I bet. These are guys running remote servers all over the world and then using them strategically to upload to file lockers and let them assume the liability of copyright infringment.

Can you still deny this is a problem?

I don't know about you but I don't have 100TB of family photos and videos lying around...

FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!

fitzmulti

"How much upload, can an uploader load, if an uploader can upload a load?"

__________________

johnnyloadproductions

I almost did that, but regained my composer! Whew!

AdultKing

Rapidgator is far from the largest of the file lockers, the scale of this problem is enormous . There are some sites that do much more in bandwidth and storage than Rapidgator.

Dirty F

Jeesh, looks like after months of "killing filelockers" absolutely nothing has changed. Who would've thought

bronco67

Is this what's plugging up the internet? Imagine how smooth everything would be if everyone used their fair share.

266 GB in one day? I don't know if I've done that much in my entire internet life.

__________________

SomeCreep

100 TB of data? Pssssh, I can upload that in 5 seconds!!

__________________

Webair Hosting

I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

mineistaken

which are bigger?

javbucks

I have 100TB of cat pics

__________________
JAVBucks -The best place to convert your asian niche traffic!
Ask me how to earn with us!
Email: [email protected]
Skype: live:.cid.a5dc77eb40478ed0

ReggieDurango

What happened to AdultKing and the mission to shut down filelockers?

Bman

Slowly over time there will be pressures and new laws forcing these type of sites to disappear.

__________________
ICQ 228211529

6South

No one is uploading that amount of data out of their "love for freedom" or their humanistic drive to share quality media with people who can't afford it.

These guys are making a profit, mainly via file locker affiliate accounts where they get a commission when downloaders sign up for premium accounts to download the uploader's warez.

The file locker's excuses on this are so thin as to be see through. Everyone involved is making a profit on the margin made available by not having to pay anyone for the product they are reselling.

Unfortunately there are still many countries which are basically safe havens for both the uploaders and the file locker site owners so despite the fact the legal system would probably be able to prosecute both parties in civil as well as criminal courts in the US, UK and some EU countries there are huge numbers of people in Indonesia, China, Nigeria, etc who make a lot of money this way. When organized crime gangs in Eastern Europe have groups of people uploading non stop and posting the links there's some indication of the profit potential for you.

I keep saying it, the most effective strategy long term is next gen DRM and a commitment to keep it updated. No other solution will work long term. Going after the file lockers is a game of musical chairs (same for going after their payment processors). Strategies to lock the internet down completely will never be adopted. Kind of pointless to try and discuss it though, most content owners are just as lazy as everyone else and would of course prefer everyone else / anyone else pay the cost to protect their property.

This stuff has been going on for how long now? 25 years+ or so and we're no closer to a solution and the problem has in fact gotten much, much worse as it evolved into a revenue stream for the criminals.

__________________
-= Software / Systems Architect and Server Geek =-

johnnyloadproductions

I agree with your understanding of the problem and how it works, however, the only true way you will cut off this epidemic is to eliminate the lifeline which is money.
Love does some things, money does all.

Not allowing payment exchange via merchant accounts will prevent this problem from being what it is today.
People were initially DDOSing this site and AK with dedicated servers at the beginning of the campaign. Now they've run out of some money and don't have near the resources they used to.

DRM isn't the longterm solution, having better control over merchant account approval is the only solution as money has the final say in anything.

iwantchixx

I'd be curious to see if anyone could calculate how many tax dollars are lost at federal, provincial/state and city levels due to piracy. Also, how much of it has affected local economies?

Nothing will be done until cold hard facts with numbers are given to those in power of how much money is actually lost.

alcstrategy

Obviously piracy has been going on for a long time, and still is even without monetization. It's been going on forever without it, and many dedicated people still do it without it. If anything, distributing through file lockers for affiliate payment is a perk.

While I understand the strategy to cut off money it still doesn't protect a rights owner at all, or eliminate distribution or anything really. So while attacking file lockers may stop people from monetizing from other peoples product, the product owner is still at a loss no matter what, and people can still get their product through other channels for free. That strategy needs to work with other ones such as what 6South is saying. Alone it does very little except put an owner out of x amount of dollars paying for the service to help stop it. You need to cut things off at the source, then employ strategies like going after file lockers, etc to cut off illegal distribution. In the case of porn I think the only real potential customers probably just go to tube sites anyway.

Cutting off the money will not stop the sharing and distribution. It will just stop uploaders from profiting from it, but again the product owner is still at a loss no matter what. Prevention is really important.

marcop

I have a little over 2GB of cat pics: http://www.littlegrayguy.com/pages/index.htm

Here's a sample...

6South

I don't want to kick off another debate but I can't help but notice -

1. Waiting for the legal system is not going to work.
For starters getting an International set of laws passed with real teeth to protect content owners has proven impossible for the largest media companies in the World. They've had very limited success so confusing a few wins while the number of piracy outlets increases completely out of proportion vs. the ones that get shut down is obviously a net loss.

Pass more laws? I'm not optimistic. There are two ways to pass legislation like this:
1. Spend lots of money on politicians (and they'll still screw you / fail to delivery what you need)
2. Get a huge segment of public opinion behind your issue.
(Good luck on that one w/ this subject, thank the MPAA and RIAA for that one).

I watched something similar happen with internet pharmacies. The payment processors were targeted which had some success initially but they adapted and now there are more online pharmacies than ever and they are one of the leading sources of spam.

__________________
-= Software / Systems Architect and Server Geek =-