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Old 05-13-2013, 04:29 PM   #51
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haha you got me.. let me explain something to you. Entry level programmer at BEST. A TOP programmer is not surfing programing jobs here. They are OFFERED them. And like I said before (you cant either read or comprehend) they are working on their own ideas, hence the millions possible. Dont take it out on me because all you came up with is a sorry ass program like leadwrench. Real programmers come up with ideas that actually make money.
You're an idiot. You don't even know what you're talking about "A TOP programmer is not surfing programing jobs here. They are OFFERED them"
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:32 PM   #52
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You're an idiot. You don't even know what you're talking about "A TOP programmer is not surfing programing jobs here. They are OFFERED them"
ok.. so please tell me the names of all these top level programmers here asking for jobs.
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:32 PM   #53
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haha you got me.. let me explain something to you. Entry level programmer at BEST. A TOP programmer is not surfing programing jobs here. They are OFFERED them. And like I said before (you cant either read or comprehend) they are working on their own ideas, hence the millions possible. Dont take it out on me because all you came up with is a sorry ass program like leadwrench. Real programmers come up with ideas that actually make money.
Majority of good programmers have no idea how to market ideas or projects, hell, majority of good programmers do not even generate money making ideas. They are just good or great at making ideas live.
So do not post it like all great programmers have entrepreneurship gene into them because they do not.
Those are exceptions.
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Majority of good programmers have no idea how to market ideas or projects, hell, majority of good programmers do not even generate money making ideas. They are just good or great at making ideas live.
So do not post it like all great programmers have entrepreneurship gene into them because they do not.
Those are exceptions.
LOL They are just that, GOOD programmers. We are not talking about good programmers. They are a dime a dozen. The subject of the discussion is TOP LEVEL programmers.
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ok.. so please tell me the names of all these top level programmers here asking for jobs.
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Majority of good programmers have no idea how to market ideas or projects, hell, majority of good programmers do not even generate money making ideas. They are just good or great at making ideas live.
So do not post it like all great programmers have entrepreneurship gene into them because they do not.
Those are exceptions.
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LOL They are just that, GOOD programmers. We are not talking about good programmers. They are a dime a dozen. The subject of the discussion is TOP LEVEL programmers.
Please, tell me who you think is a "TOP LEVEL" programmer. Because judging by your "knowledge" here, I am pretty sure you think $12/hr Indian programmers on Freelancer.com are "TOP LEVEL" programmers.
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Please, tell me who you think is a "TOP LEVEL" programmer. Because judging by your "knowledge" here, I am pretty sure you think $12/hr Indian programmers on Freelancer.com are "TOP LEVEL" programmers.
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Please, tell me who you think is a "TOP LEVEL" programmer. Because judging by your "knowledge" here, I am pretty sure you think $12/hr Indian programmers on Freelancer.com are "TOP LEVEL" programmers.
Hows your tube api going big shot? How many Indian programmers rip you off before its done?
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Hows your tube api going big shot? How many Indian programmers rip you off before its done?
Launching tomorrow, and that's cool if someone rips my work, shows I made something worthwhile. How's board trolling going for you? I noticed you started going hard in the paint after about 4PM... School just let out?
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ITT: A nobody talking shit about a subject he doesn't understand throwing out retarded assumptions.
You asked who I though was a top level programmer and I delivered. Sorry you cant handle your own stupidity.
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Launching tomorrow, and that's cool if someone rips my work, shows I made something worthwhile. How's board trolling going for you? I noticed you started going hard in the paint after about 4PM... School just let out?
Yeah, its been a while since I trolled. Needed to get my "fix". Thanks for be such a worthy subject.
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You asked who I though was a top level programmer and I delivered. Sorry you cant handle your own stupidity.


Your trolling is weak too.
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Launching tomorrow, and that's cool if someone rips my work, shows I made something worthwhile. How's board trolling going for you? I noticed you started going hard in the paint after about 4PM... School just let out?
And who said anything about ripping you off?
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Your trolling is weak too.
Another GFY fag who needs stupid graphics to express their opinion. You bore me.
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LOL They are just that, GOOD programmers. We are not talking about good programmers. They are a dime a dozen. The subject of the discussion is TOP LEVEL programmers.
So are you saying entrepreneurship gene is what makes a programmer top level?
I say that there are simply top level programmers (who can implement any idea, you tell it and they program it) and there are top level programmers who also generate their own ideas.
If programmer does not generate ideas it does not make them NOT top level. Quality of programmer is all about how good he can turn ideas into code, not if he can generate his own ideas.
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So are you saying entrepreneurship gene is what makes a programmer top level?
I say that there are simply top level programmers (who can implement any idea, you tell it and they program it) and there are top level programmers who also generate their own ideas.
If programmer does not generate ideas it does not make them NOT top level. Quality of programmer is all about how good he can turn ideas into code, not if he can generate his own ideas.
No, I'm just saying 99% of top level programmers are either hired or are working on their own shit. They are certainly not looking for a job here. And making way more then 100k a year. You guys act like 100k a year is a ton of cash. Its called breaking even for a family of 4
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No, I'm just saying 99% of top level programmers are either hired or are working on their own shit. They are certainly not looking for a job here. And making way more then 100k a year. You guys act like 100k a year is a ton of cash. Its called breaking even for a family of 4
You are a fucking idiot. Shut up already
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aaawww did I get your panties in a bunch?
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Yeah, you're really gonna see that level of Computer Scientist developing dating sites.

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Would be kinda hard since hes been dead for quite a while dont you think?
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aaawww did I get your panties in a bunch?
You aren't even good at trolling. You are just stupid. Stick to non business threads where you belong.
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I guess I'm thinking there's a huge discrepancy in what consitutes a "senior" or "top level" programmer.
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I guess I'm thinking there's a huge discrepancy in what consitutes a "senior" or "top level" programmer.
there is a huge difference between what is considered "top level" in this industry, and what is "top level" in general...

"top level" in this industry is something along the lines of: be able to work with some apis, setup a cms, etc

"top level" in general is more like: design and implement a face recognition algorithm to eliminate fake profiles on a dating site

the 2 are not even in the same ballpark of skill required...
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Would be kinda hard since hes been dead for quite a while dont you think?
Yeah he has, I'm surprised you know of him as I am pegging you at just entering grade school in the year he died.
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Lol at "top programmers doing their own".You can be best programmer on world,or have a best idea on world,but it's still useless if you dont have sufficient sales skills which would go along with your technical skills.
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Tons of idiots in here destroying a valid search for good people.

"If you have nothing good to say, don't say it at all." A lot of people on GFY should learn that simple saying...
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im with OY, sad to see a business thread get derailed by argumentation.

where Justin is trying to hire someone to work, is an incredibly cheap place to live, safe and away from the big city, $100k goes a LONG ways. It is considered both one of the best places to retire in America and one of the best places to recreate. if you like the outdoors you would love it here. Yahoo, Bing, Blackrock, VMWare, Google, Microsoft, and a few others have data centers here also. Pay is not only related to skill but location, some would be willing to take a massive pay cut to get reliable work in a place like this, where $4k a month rent gets you the nicest house on the hill. $600k gets a 5br/4ba house on the river with a dock and a pool. no violent crime, nice weather, the largest ski resort in Washington is 15 minutes out of town, and very good health care, are nice to have as well.

as for the ongoing arguments... the best programmers i know are not very good at marketing themselves or their ideas. on the flip side they would not be here arguing... they would apply, wait to hear back and move on, or just simply move on if the offer didn't suit them.
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Tons of idiots in here destroying a valid search for good people.

"If you have nothing good to say, don't say it at all." A lot of people on GFY should learn that simple saying...
Not necessary destroying,since they bumping thread and that increase chance to find a proper person.
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GFY never ceases to amaze me.

A company is looking for a programmer and willing to put up the cash for it and all you guys can do is argue about if good programmers are looking for jobs on GFY.

Good luck in your search
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im with OY, sad to see a business thread get derailed by argumentation.

where Justin is trying to hire someone to work, is an incredibly cheap place to live, safe and away from the big city, $100k goes a LONG ways. It is considered both one of the best places to retire in America and one of the best places to recreate. if you like the outdoors you would love it here. Yahoo, Bing, Blackrock, VMWare, Google, Microsoft, and a few others have data centers here also. Pay is not only related to skill but location, some would be willing to take a massive pay cut to get reliable work in a place like this, where $4k a month rent gets you the nicest house on the hill. $600k gets a 5br/4ba house on the river with a dock and a pool. no violent crime, nice weather, the largest ski resort in Washington is 15 minutes out of town, and very good health care, are nice to have as well.

as for the ongoing arguments... the best programmers i know are not very good at marketing themselves or their ideas. on the flip side they would not be here arguing... they would apply, wait to hear back and move on, or just simply move on if the offer didn't suit them.
You bring up good points, but it is in the middle of nowhere.

Pay seems decent for the area. But who wants to live there? I bet very few. Now if he said relocate to Miami Florida, I bet they'd have more interested people. But 100k might not be enough in Miami.
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My girl is willing to relocate us, but $100k and moving expenses won't cut it.

She is more than qualified, and does check GFY for work from time to time.

So far, no one has been able to afford her.
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If "top level" was removed from the initial title, would this whole argument have been avoided?
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Developing incoming/outgoing API scripts

Applicant must have strong references and experience in dealing with high traffic complex projects.

Also, you must be willing to relocate to Wenatchee, WA - Would consider Seattle, WA for the right person.

We want the best, and we will pay for the best. Starting wage ranges from $70-100k per year. Will cover cost of relocation.

Please email me your resume to [email protected]
could you respond if candidate is not suitable?
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Good luck with the search Justin. I will keep my ears open for you too.
Thanks for your loyal business.
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May as well bump this, I'm excited to see how many other GFY programmers won't get out of bed for $300k/yr, because they're all busy starting their own successful businesses
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May as well bump this, I'm excited to see how many other GFY programmers won't get out of bed for $300k/yr, because they're all busy starting their own successful businesses
Just for the record,if immigration to usa would be easy and me being a top programmer i would be all over it
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:39 AM   #99
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Find someone like this dude ;)

The guy worked it! I love this story

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Programmers are programmers, they think they are Product Managers too often. Those are the ones you have to let go, now matter how good their kung fu is.
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