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Old 06-26-2013, 11:08 PM   #51
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I was wondering the same, have never ever heard of this being applied to domestic travel (in Aus of course). We have the asame 10K limit for international travels though.

Why would it matter for domestic?
Technically any movement of funds above $10,000 across Australian State borders needs to be declared to AUSTRAC, however obviously in practice given our freedom of movement such a thing is unenforceable.
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Technically any movement of funds above $10,000 across Australian State borders needs to be declared to AUSTRAC, however obviously in practice given our freedom of movement such a thing is unenforceable.
Interesting, was not aware of this.
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Pre 9/11 there were never issues with carry that type of cash domestically.
We were detained coming back from vegas in 2005, and the dumb fuks couldn't comprehend that we had cash on us because we were in vegas.
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I may spend $750 a year in cash if that much.

EVERYTHING that can goes on cards and I get huge rebates. To walk around with that kind of cash that is not covered for loss or theft and be bale to make back something for everything you spend is foolish.
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So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.
If there are others in your group traveling with you, split the cash among you, or consider loading them on Visa/MC available at supermarkets and shopping malls in the US.
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So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.
Disgusting. Never heard of that happening domestically.

Even if you follow the law and declare your cash for international travel, 50/50 they go ape shit on you anyway. They use any excuse possible these days to get in your business, even if you do the right thing.

Fast forward 15 or 20 years, it's going to be beyond a nightmare to do anything that requires money or movement.
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Up in my neck of the woods, law enforcement sets up on the side of the highway (I-5) with a detector that picks up the RF signal emitted by modern U.S. currency, and then automatically tallies the amount ($100 bills 'broadcast' that they're $100, $50 signals $50 etc. along with their serial number, identifying unique bills).

When you go driving by with > $10k they have probable cause and will pull you over for a closer look. I've had anecdotal reports of substantial currency confiscations based upon a suspicion of drug trafficking. The cops were of course correct in their assumptions.

Come harvest time, nobody likes driving past a black SUV parked off the road
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It shouldn't be any of the govt.'s fucking business how much money you have with you.

But I guess I'm the only one who is disgusted with this kind of shit going on.

All in the name of the the failed "drug war"...which is the govt. telling us what we can put in our own bodies.

I should be able to walk around with as much of MY money as I want to at any given time. It's nobodies business. ESPECIALLY the govt.

But I guess you have to be treated like a criminal to ride on what passes for an airplane these days (a glorified bus with wings)
You are far from the only one Robbie, If I want to dump 100k of my money in a suitcase and fly to Vegas to lay it all on black it is my business. Unfortunately, everything just continues to worse.

As long as the US keeps voting Demican or Republicrat the intrusion continues to grow
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I should be able to walk around with as much of MY money as I want to at any given time. It's nobodies business. ESPECIALLY the govt.
As those with their heads up their ass like to say, that's the price you pay for freedom.
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Pre 9/11 there were never issues with carry that type of cash domestically.
We were detained coming back from vegas in 2005, and the dumb fuks couldn't comprehend that we had cash on us because we were in vegas.
Right.. they were confused. Because EVERYONE carries huge sums of cash on them as well all know there is no other sensible mechanism for transporting and accessing money. If only there was an easier way that everyone could adopt. For example, a small plastic card that would allow you access to every penny you own. Fortunately, terrorists, drug dealers, human smugglers and gang bangers NEVER carry large sums of cash, so there can't possibly be any reason concerns.
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I should be able to walk around with as much of MY money as I want to at any given time. It's nobodies business. ESPECIALLY the govt.
Exactly! I can't imagine if some pig asked me to show my money on a domestic flight. I can carry as many cash as I have - because I own it and nobody can ask me why I'm doing that.

I do remember as many years ago I was buying the apartments in Moscow with $200K cash in a suitcase If that's my money, why the hell wouldn't I be allowed to do that?

I'm really don't understand the problems with cash in the USA. Here in Russia all these things sound real crazy. Perhaps because we are not free and missing some important civilian rights...
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If you do a purchase and pay 10K or more in cash seller has to report it. I even have a form in accounting office.
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....and they will just keep on voting for more and more power to the government from both parties until it's too late.





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Probably more like 40 years...ever since Richard Nixon started the "War On Drugs".

Only thing is they weren't able to just search people (because it's unconstitutional and people wouldn't stand for it back then) so it wasn't really able to be enforced as much.

But now...thanks to "terrorism" (you know, a dozen guys with box cutters 12 years ago), they search you and scan you and you have zero privacy.
Except those "dozen guys with box cutters 12 years ago" flew 2 planes into 2 buildings killing thousands of innocent people, when we DIDN'T have such tight security... It's not about the government telling you what you can and can't do, it's about keeping you and everyone else safe from people who hate our country because our society doesn't fall in line with their religious beliefs so they feel they have to eradicate us.

But hey, who cares if thousands of innocent people die, I want to carry crazy amounts of cash around with me!
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I may spend $750 a year in cash if that much.

EVERYTHING that can goes on cards and I get huge rebates. To walk around with that kind of cash that is not covered for loss or theft and be bale to make back something for everything you spend is foolish.
I can respect & understand that. I'm the opposite. I grew up in a family business where cash was / is king. It was a great lesson. I would argue it's the reason I can get on a plane with what so many here think is a "Huge" sum of money.

I still use cash for almost everything. Hell I even paid for my stay at the SLS Hotel in cash.
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Except those "dozen guys with box cutters 12 years ago" flew 2 planes into 2 buildings killing thousands of innocent people, when we DIDN'T have such tight security... It's not about the government telling you what you can and can't do, it's about keeping you and everyone else safe from people who hate our country because our society doesn't fall in line with their religious beliefs so they feel they have to eradicate us.

But hey, who cares if thousands of innocent people die, I want to carry crazy amounts of cash around with me!
I'm sure you will keep on saying the same crap when there are checkpoints everywhere, government cameras in your home, government agents calling you in to go over your emails and phone calls for the month, when you have to fill out a questionare and a background check everytime you travel from one town to another, when there is no more oversight of government since that same government is spying on reporters and knows their sources, and when cops and DHS agents stop you anywhere to ask for your papers. You just keep thinking about how SAFE and FREE you are....




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I'm sure you will keep on saying the same crap when there are checkpoints everywhere, government cameras in your home, government agents calling you in to go over your emails and phone calls for the month, when you have to fill out a questionare and a background check everytime you travel from one town to another, and cops and DHS agents stop you anywhere to ask for your papers. You just keep thinking about how SAFE and FREE you are....




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I'm sure you will keep on saying the same crap when there are checkpoints everywhere, government cameras in your home, government agents calling you in to go over your emails and phone calls for the month, and you have to fill out a questionare and a background check everytime you travel from one town to another. You just keep thinking about how SAFE and FREE you are....




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1984 called, they want their conspiracy theories back.
Really? Right now the government is spying on reporters, to find out their sources regarding government scandals, (and those sources are now afraid to contact the reporters anymore), the FAA has already approved license for 30,000 drones, some as small as a bird, to fly around taking video of people here in the US, the NDAA allows US citizens to be arrested and detained forever, without any charges, or access to a lawyer, and the government is recording and storing all of our emails and phone calls. Under civil forfiture laws, government agencies like the FTC can seize everything you have, without filing charges against you, and there are plans to put TSA checkpoints in bus stations, train stations and eventually along roads, etc, etc, etc...


You are a hideously naive example of how one boils a frog.


No offense meant actually, but yours is the kind of attitude that will lead us all happily into a very Orwellian situation.


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Really? Right now the government is spying on reporters, to find out their sources regarding government scandals, (and those sources are now afraid to contact the reporters anymore), the FAA has already approved license for 30,000 drones, some as small as a bird, to fly around taking video of people here in the US, the NDAA allows US citizens to be arrested and detained forever, without any charges, or access to a lawyer, and the government is recording and storing all of our emails and phone calls. Under civil forfiture laws, government agencies like the FTC can seize everything you have, without filing charges against you, and there are plans to put TSA checkpoints in bus stations, train stations and eventually along roads, etc, etc, etc...


You are a hideously naive example of how one boils a frog.
The jew is correct. It's slowly moving in this direction whether you choose to believe it or not.

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Really? Right now the government is spying on reporters, to find out their sources regarding government scandals, (and those sources are now afraid to contact the reporters anymore), the FAA has already approved license for 30,000 drones, some as small as a bird, to fly around taking video of people here in the US, the NDAA allows US citizens to be arrested and detained forever, without any charges, or access to a lawyer, and the government is recording and storing all of our emails and phone calls. Under civil forfiture laws, government agencies like the FTC can seize everything you have, without filing charges against you, and there are plans to put TSA checkpoints in bus stations, train stations and eventually along roads, etc, etc, etc...


You are a hideously naive example of how one boils a frog.


No offense meant actually, but yours is the kind of attitude that will lead us all happily into a very Orwellian situation.


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And you act like this is new? This shit was VOTED in 12 fucking years ago, yet since Boston Marathon bombing you guys come out of the wood works as if it's new... Yet I'm the naive one...

How about instead of trying to educate people who already know about it, and really aren't bothered by it, you should lobby your congressman... I don't give a fuck and can't do anything about it, that's the fact of life... But I am pretty sure your local congressman would love to please you for your vote for the next election.

Am I dumb because I have come to terms with the fact that almost all government officials are in this for everything but me? Yes.. Can I do anything about it? No... Am I gonna spend my days arguing with people until I'm blue in the face trying to get them to "open your eyes man, see what's going on!" that has been happening for over 50 years? No. I'm gonna do all I can to enjoy my life.
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And you act like this is new? This shit was VOTED in 12 fucking years ago, yet since Boston Marathon bombing you guys come out of the wood works as if it's new... Yet I'm the naive one...
I believe the jew is telling you that the b.s. is starting to move faster in this direction because of law enforcement and government capitalizing on citizen's fears. Not that there was an absence of it previously. Which is more rapidly eroding privacy between drones, cameras, surveillance, Fife's random searches, etc..

Essentially citizens have taken their hands off the wheel, and given all of this power to the government under the 'guise' of keeping them safe from all these big bad terrorists. Meanwhile, bankrupting the country to do it both domestically and abroad.

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I believe the jew is telling you that the b.s. is starting to move faster in this direction because of law enforcement and government capitalizing on citizen's fears. Not that there was an absence of it previously. Which is more rapidly eroding privacy between drones, cameras, surveillance, Fife's random searches, etc..

Essentially citizens have taken their hands off the wheel, and given all of this power to the government under the 'guise' of keeping them safe from all these big bad terrorists. Meanwhile, bankrupting the country to do it both domestically and abroad.

And arguing on GFY about it is gonna help? Yes... HELP PEOPLE BE AWARE... We're aware, no go fucking do something about it. Because I don't care. Welcome to reality.

I will live my life and die without having ever experienced a single problem with the government.. Not one... Why? Because I don't think about it 24/7 and stress my life over it... Welcome to reality again.

99% of people here will spend their time bitching and moaning about it, yet not make a single phone call, write a single letter, or meet a single congressman to tell them their concerns... Why?
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....because multiple daily new threads on GFY helped so much in stopping the tube sites and flood of free content?

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....because multiple daily new threads on GFY helped so much in stopping the tube sites and flood of free content?

Bingo.

And that's the sad reality of the people here... They're so concerned about shit, yet the farthest they get is bitching on GFY..

Want to really make things change? Get off your asses and do something, otherwise, shut the fuck up, because your constant complaining is getting tiresome.
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I did mention that I like my prostate tickled a bit.


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I will live my life and die without having ever experienced a single problem with the government.. Not one... Why? Because I don't think about it 24/7 and stress my life over it... Welcome to reality again.
That used to be enough.

Now you need to be a good little cog


and btw.. I am doing what one guy can. I have met with my attorney, they are drafting a letter. I'm also a "club" member & contributor to both parties in my state. I'll be having chats at our next monthly meeting(s).
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:58 AM   #85
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That used to be enough.

Now you need to be a good little cog


and btw.. I am doing what one guy can. I have met with my attorney, they are drafting a letter. I'm also a "club" member & contributor to both parties in my state. I'll be having chats at our next monthly meeting(s).
Awesome, then I commend you for being more than someone who's bitching on the internet. You're a rare breed.
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Most banks will make you fill out IRS paperwork if you're cashing a check over $5000...

Currency transaction report (CTR) These are based on the size of the transaction. The second possible form is a suspicious activity report, or SAR, filed when the bank thinks you're up to no good with your money.. at least $5,000 and involves money from illegal activities or is part of a plan to violate federal laws and financial reporting requirements.

The "know your neighbor" shit at banks has gotten stupid.. I've had to fill out quite a few CTR reports, but it usually only happens when you get that money in your hand in a bulk amount..
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where is Richard? I am sure he has a Canadian angle on this..
in this case i might agree with him.
THIS IS EFFIN NUTZ.

those TSA inspectors are highschool grads, they are not law enforcement but they think they have been selected to be "Uber Cops".
hate flying commercially nowadays.. hate it.
when i go internationally i bring amex travel cheques.. but i think the same rule may apply?
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where is Richard? I am sure he has a Canadian angle on this..
in this case i might agree with him.
THIS IS EFFIN NUTZ.

those TSA inspectors are highschool grads, they are not law enforcement but they think they have been selected to be "Uber Cops".
hate flying commercially nowadays.. hate it.
when i go internationally i bring amex travel cheques.. but i think the same rule may apply?
:P

all joking aside tho, i have heard rumours that amounts in the 5k range will get all sorts of attention

there is also reports of truckers getting stopped/searched with amounts like this 'confiscated' as 'it's suspicious' that a trucker would have that sort of money, and the police department doing the confiscating will be able to keep the funds

by the by, i was raised by an american immigrant family. i have close family throughout Canada, US, Europe etc
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Up in my neck of the woods, law enforcement sets up on the side of the highway (I-5) with a detector that picks up the RF signal emitted by modern U.S. currency, and then automatically tallies the amount ($100 bills 'broadcast' that they're $100, $50 signals $50 etc. along with their serial number, identifying unique bills).

When you go driving by with > $10k they have probable cause and will pull you over for a closer look. I've had anecdotal reports of substantial currency confiscations based upon a suspicion of drug trafficking. The cops were of course correct in their assumptions.

Come harvest time, nobody likes driving past a black SUV parked off the road
http://www.snopes.com/business/money/strip.asp

At least they say this isn't true. It is damn sure true that if they could do this, they would. Cash will probably be outlawed soon.
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Why?
Because they hate us for our freedom. Our President told us so. Now we have to do stuff like this and allow agents to grope on our wife and kids at the airport. I'm OK with all of it too because I don't have anything to hide from anyone and my wife and daughter loves it when strangers rub their vagina. It's either that or cancer. You should visit more and bring your family. Otherwise, the terrorist have already won.
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I voted Libertarian in all my local elections and the national one in 2012. I was a registered Dem...but am now a registered Libertarian.

And I will vote that way again. I want freedom.

That's what I did Dankasaur. I didn't just "complain" on a message board.

Hopefully all this discussion about what the govt. is doing will lead more people to get angry enough that they too will leave the Repubs and Dems and vote Libertarian and try to get some REAL change in this country. (not the fake "hope and change" that never happened)
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Amazed at the attitudes of people on this board. Carrying any amount of cash on your person is very much legal. Carrying cash domestically is none of anyone's business. Since when is the TSA investigating narcotics?
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Since when is the TSA investigating narcotics?
Since the day they went into business.

They haven't caught any "terrorists"...but they've pulled in some big drug hauls.

Thanks Richard Nixon for the "War On Drugs" You must be smiling somewhere to see how the govt. is doing everything you couldn't do back then.
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Maybe its been answered, but where along the line of getting on a domestic flight were you asked how much money you had, are you a citizen? just keep in the bottom of your bag and shush, unless directly asked.

Its perfectly legal to travel with as much cash as you want, there is no US law against this. However, you have to declare it when traveling into or out of the country and our law enforcement is trained to think no one should carry cash(which is why you get screwed with for having more then about $500 anywhere in the states).

I have traveled into the US a couple times and had to declare cash in excess of $10k, they asked to see it(they didn't count it), they asked why I had it and sent me on my way. As I had a good reason to have the cash and I declared it properly there was no issue whatsoever.

@fuzebox, the TSA is under Department of Homeland Security... clearly all undocumented cash is terrorist related?

my guess is they were bored.
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Thanks Richard Nixon for the "War On Drugs" You must be smiling somewhere to see how the govt. is doing everything you couldn't do back then.
aint that the truth.
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In December 1999, I was withdrawing $9900 in $10s, $20s & $50s every day for a couple weeks. Anyone else hoard stacks of cash before Y2K?
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That's what I did Dankasaur. I didn't just "complain" on a message board.
Americans are leaving the USA in record numbers now. People are voting with their feet. There are plenty of other countries who are welcoming them and their money, and not groping their balls in the process.
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You are very lucky the TSA didn't take it. You don't want to even drive down the road with more than a few hundred dollars in cash. The cops will take your money and let you go.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/18...or-profit-case

You can refuse a search of your car, But the cops will bring a dog that they can signal when to alert.
That's messed up... I clicked the link to read the officer's affidavit. Not only was 9 miles over the speed limit called high rate of speed they siezed not only his money but his phone as well before releasing him when the K9 found nothing. Alone, out-of-state, and phone gone
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You can refuse a search of your car, But the cops will bring a dog that they can signal when to alert.
missed this, but yes.

they will let a dog into your car, take their toy, throw it somewhere, scream 'alert' and you have a small army running at you

just cause the guy doesn't like you

true story
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I see a video or article almost every month on Youtube and news sites about some immigrant businessman trying to buy a franchise store, a family moving out of state, a retired guy buying a truck or some other law abiding citizens on their way to wherever driving down the highway within America in places like Tennessee and elsewhere getting their cash "confiscated" by State troopers on suspicion of drug trafficking. They always bring some dogs out and make them "signal" at some pre-determined moment and they say the dog smelled drugs and force their way into the vehicle even if it is locked and steal your money. Then a year or so later after you spend thousands fighting it in court they'll just say there must have been "residue" on your bills give you back 95% of it if your attorney is really good. It's insane the shit that goes on nowadays with law enforcement.
With 90% or so of all US paper currency bearing a trace of cocaine that would be an easy accusation to make
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