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Old 08-28-2013, 02:23 AM   #51
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that could have been the best episode yet.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:39 AM   #52
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Dyna mo - why was jesse freaking out at the end? he realized his cigs were poisioned? Im just a casual watcher so I got a little lost there
he realized his ciggs from a couple of seasons ago where poisoned, yes. i'm a pretty serious watcher and i got a lot lost!

in fact, after getting sorted out on how jesse figured it out, i then got confused about why walt poisoned brock to begin with!

but he did it to make jesse think gus poisoned the kid so jesse would kill gus.




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Old 08-28-2013, 11:27 AM   #53
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but he did it to make jesse think gus poisoned the kid so jesse would kill gus./
Which is even more interesting... because Jessie didn't kill Gus.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:05 PM   #54
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So W.W. went from likable character to hated one in one episode?
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #55
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So W.W. went from likable character to hated one in one episode?
Not really, Walter White just has another person/former associate who wants him dead now.

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It's hard to reconcile the unthinking acts with the ones where he does logically sort shit out. not to mention the emotional outbursts or blank stare into space times.

not that that is a flaw in the character or writing, in fact, i think it prolly most mimics reality right? i know very few people that easily fit into pre-conceived labels when it comes right down to it.
Jessie starts the show as a lazy, underachieving, drug using bum and through his experiences with Walter White and Gus Fringe he finally realizes his potential.

i.e. His ability to cook meth to the same quality as Walt can

Lets put this into perspective, Jessie can cook meth on his own better than

1) Gale Boetticher - Gale holds an MS degree in organic chemistry and is a specialist in X-ray crystallography
2) English Meth Cook - From the Mexican drug cartels Meth lab in Season 4
3) Much much better meth than the current guys that Lydia is involved with

Jesse is the second/equal best meth cook that exists on the planet, along with his experiences with Gus Fringe in season 4 he's proven to be quite a reliable and resourceful person.

Unlike Walter White, Jesse is not a sociopath and the things he's done and the sheer number of lives that have been destroyed mainly through Walts actions has resulted in Jesse finding it impossible to live with what he's been involved with, this is someone truly on the edge.

There is no coming back for Jesse now, the guilt is tormenting him!

I thought there was a strong possibility that Jesse was going to commit suicide in episode 511, the guy has been used, abused and he can't take anymore. He's emotionally spent!

So Jesse is actually a very very intelligent guy, he just can't live with what he's done any longer.

Breaking Bad is hands down the best show ever made! You just can't predict what's going to happen! And the use of music and the sound effects to convey emotions is just outstanding!

I can't think of any other TV show that uses sounds so effectively to describe emotions & moods in important scenes

The only other director I can think of who uses sound effects this way is Darren Aronofsky in Requiem For A Dream & Black Swan
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The only other director I can think of who uses sound effects this way is Darren Aronofsky in Requiem For A Dream & Black Swan
As an interesting side-note, Mark Margolis (Hector Salamanka on BB) was pretty much discovered by Aronofsky and has appeared in several of his films. So there is a creative synergy for sure, even if not a direct connection between the show and his movies.
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As an interesting side-note, Mark Margolis (Hector Salamanka on BB) was pretty much discovered by Aronofsky and has appeared in several of his films. So there is a creative synergy for sure, even if not a direct connection between the show and his movies.
Yeah he's an excellent actor and was fantastic in Breaking Bad, his inspiration for the part was his mother in law who had a stroke. He has mentioned in an interview that he stole some of her facial movements for his role as Hector Salamanka.
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Not really, Walter White just has another person/former associate who wants him dead now.
Pretty disgusting move to make a tape like that. Not sure what kind of person would not like a character like that.
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Pretty disgusting move to make a tape like that. Not sure what kind of person would not like a character like that.
Calm down it's just a TV show

Vince Gilligan has said numerous times that Bryan Cranston was his choice for Walter White because he needed an actor that could play a bad guy but yet remain at least a little sympathetic to the audience.

Here's what he said:

"That's interesting. It's super important to me that people stay interested in Walt. It's not quite as important to me that people continue to root for him. That may sound kind of like splitting hairs, but this show is something of an experiment in that we're taking our good guy and turning him into a bad guy throughout the course of the series. To that end, if we're going to be truthful to that mandate ... and we're going to be courageous about it, then what we need to do is continue to travel that path regardless of the outcome, regardless of the consequences.

"It seems to me that our fans are not monolithic; they don't think with one group mind. They all have different thresholds of tolerance for Walt's bad behavior. And probably a few folks here and there -- knock on wood, I hope not too many -- but a few have probably tuned out already. They say, 'I can't get behind this guy anymore, I can't root for him.' But other folks hopefully still can root for him, and still others I hope would say, 'You know what? He's kind of a real bastard now, and he threatens to get worse still, but he's still interesting.' All that really matters to me at the end of the day is that he remains interesting, remains an interesting character study. So that's what I'm hoping."
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Pretty disgusting move to make a tape like that. Not sure what kind of person would not like a character like that.
What I find fascinating about it is Walt finds himself time after time backed into a corner and every single time he manages to pull a rabbit out of a hat and completely flip the tables on his opponent with a moment of genius, he does it in every season and it's very interesting and entertaining to watch!
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What I find fascinating about it is Walt finds himself time after time backed into a corner and every single time he manages to pull a rabbit out of a hat and completely flip the tables on his opponent with a moment of genius, he does it in every season and it's very interesting and entertaining to watch!
Best part of the show is watching him and Jessie fail upwards. Every time they get in a corner and screw something up, they come out higher up the ladder somehow... and it always seems reasonable.
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