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marcop · 08-31-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GAH

The feeling in the UK is we don't want to be deceived like we were with weapons of mass destruction and interfere in a countries' civil war.

This is what I've heard from friends and family in the UK. So don't blame "the Brits" or their political parties--blame George W. Bush and Tony Blair for lying back in 2003. Once bitten, twice shy . . . .

Jel · 08-31-2013, 11:34 AM

not one person found my post funny? no-one? sad times

ctggls · 08-31-2013, 01:58 PM

I think my thread was a little bit misunderstood and it is entirely my fault.

I was not saying the Brits as a nations are pussies but rather the MPs which are lead by God knows what reason , to vote various things like this Syria attack. As I remember the vote was quite close , don't know the exact numbers but it was like 10 votes difference (or less) - some half wanted to go to "war" and the other half did not want.. It was not like 80% said no and only 20% said yes. This why I meant by "pussies" , rather a sign of weakness. I have Brit friends and they really nice guys and not at all pussies.

So , my apologies to those who felt offended by the thread.

Regarding the second part, about the Arabs it seems that somehow they find a way to take their hate and insider conflicts (armed ones) to they outside world like in the EU and US. From my experience with them, these guys are violent no matter where they go. There are a lot of immigrants where I live and the Arab ones are the worst doing all sort of killing and getting into all sort of conflicts.

These guys are fighting now in Syria amongst themselves: some support Al Assad and some don't so they find a way to make a civil war out of it. As most of you can see these conflicts in the Arab world influences the petrol prices (and it usually goes up) and many other things in not such a nice way. This is why, stronger countries, with more armed forces should try and calm down the situation by some sort of armed intervention so things get back to "normal".

Of course it's not a war in the true sense of the meaning but it's like if you see to guys beating each other, don't you call the police or try to break them up? it's kinda the same thing here.

This vote of the GB MPs and the US positions shows a decline in the world's geopolitical order and if things continue like that there will be even more of such conflicts that , in a globalized world, will affect every individual no matter if's in the actual conflict zone or 100000km away...

The Syrian actual regime must be thought a lesson. Today they attack amongst each other with chemical weapons and tomorrow they decided it's time to attack US , GB or Germany because , WTF, nobody will take action...

Captain Kawaii · 08-31-2013, 05:34 PM

To the OP

About 20 years ago I wanted to know more about Islam and the growing Muslim community around me. I found several mosques in the neighborhood, this was Cambridge, Massachusetts, and called up the preacher I later found out was called Imam. I asked for an appointment to learn more. I settled on a couple places and went and learned.

Avoid the radicals, every religion has them and nobody practicing except radicals likes them. Look for places with a lot of family/community events...and ask questions.

Don't argue, dont debate, just listen and ask questions. Be polite. You will learn a lot of things many on this board want to keep you from knowing. Go home, digest and come up with more questions. And go back. You don't have to become a believer. Just help yourself and your community by gaining understanding.

There are many things in your post below that are just wrong. We (colonial powers) have been murdering Arabs/Hindus/Asians/Africans since long before oil was discovered.

If you want to ask me questions, feel free to PM me. I promise not to play teacher but I will give you some starting points. if you are interested.

My mentor was an American writer and musician who at the age of 80 learned to use, from scratch, a sampler/workstation to compose music for an American school's theatrical production. His first lesson to me was, "Never stop asking 'why'."

There are over 1000 insurgency and or rebel groups in Syria. One of them has claimed responsibility for the attacks. Chemicals provided by Saudi Arabia. No shocker there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctggls

I think my thread was a little bit misunderstood and it is entirely my fault.

I was not saying the Brits as a nations are pussies but rather the MPs which are lead by God knows what reason , to vote various things like this Syria attack. As I remember the vote was quite close , don't know the exact numbers but it was like 10 votes difference (or less) - some half wanted to go to "war" and the other half did not want.. It was not like 80% said no and only 20% said yes. This why I meant by "pussies" , rather a sign of weakness. I have Brit friends and they really nice guys and not at all pussies.

So , my apologies to those who felt offended by the thread.

Regarding the second part, about the Arabs it seems that somehow they find a way to take their hate and insider conflicts (armed ones) to they outside world like in the EU and US. From my experience with them, these guys are violent no matter where they go. There are a lot of immigrants where I live and the Arab ones are the worst doing all sort of killing and getting into all sort of conflicts.

These guys are fighting now in Syria amongst themselves: some support Al Assad and some don't so they find a way to make a civil war out of it. As most of you can see these conflicts in the Arab world influences the petrol prices (and it usually goes up) and many other things in not such a nice way. This is why, stronger countries, with more armed forces should try and calm down the situation by some sort of armed intervention so things get back to "normal".

Of course it's not a war in the true sense of the meaning but it's like if you see to guys beating each other, don't you call the police or try to break them up? it's kinda the same thing here.

This vote of the GB MPs and the US positions shows a decline in the world's geopolitical order and if things continue like that there will be even more of such conflicts that , in a globalized world, will affect every individual no matter if's in the actual conflict zone or 100000km away...

The Syrian actual regime must be thought a lesson. Today they attack amongst each other with chemical weapons and tomorrow they decided it's time to attack US , GB or Germany because , WTF, nobody will take action...

VIXEN ESCORTS · 08-31-2013, 05:51 PM

Cameron is REALLY weak and a bad politician, he lost by 13 votes, 30 of his own party voted against, others didn't even bother to turn up. Cameron fucked up big time, this is nothing to do with the British people. It's purely coincedental that what parliament decided is in line with random polls.

VIXEN ESCORTS · 08-31-2013, 05:57 PM

But despite Cameron being weak he is still a league above Milliband WHO HAD to say no because of the Iraq debacle. So what you have is a Labour Prime Minister, Tony Blair declaring war on Arab countries and now the Syrian people want our help, another Labour Leader Ed Milliband, tells them, sorry... NO DEAL.

VIXEN ESCORTS · 08-31-2013, 05:59 PM

I think we can safely assume that the British Labour party are no fans of Islam or the Arab world.

brassmonkey · 08-31-2013, 06:03 PM

i've watch them in combat and that's a no

Captain Kawaii · 08-31-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS

Cameron is REALLY weak and a bad politician, he lost by 13 votes, 30 of his own party voted against, others didn't even bother to turn up. Cameron fucked up big time, this is nothing to do with the British people. It's purely coincedental that what parliament decided is in line with random polls.

He'll be done soon I think.

Scott McD · 09-07-2013, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls

They're afraid to go to war?

Who is afraid now ??

Barry-xlovecam · 09-07-2013, 06:11 AM

This is all moot for reason that the French have signed on to an EU resolution to let the UN Security Council make any enforcement decisions.

Everybody will probably back down to the the acrimony of UN Debates ...

The undisputed winner:

helmuc · 09-07-2013, 06:20 AM

There has been only 1 case in the history of a large army using chemical weapons...

.. even natzis weren't using chemical stuff but pepper gas (and similar).

.. more than 10 thousand people died then and much more had to live with mutations it caused.

Place: South Vietnam
Year: 1981
Aggressor: USA
The day is remembered as: Yellow Rain

... not enough? remember atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.. :/

Keep Calm
and
Shoot Porn

Barry-xlovecam · 09-07-2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helmuc

There has been only 1 case in the history of a large army using chemical weapons...

.. even natzis weren't using chemical stuff but pepper gas (and similar).

.. more than 10 thousand people died then and much more had to live with mutations it caused.

Place: South Vietnam
Year: 1981
Aggressor: USA
The day is remembered as: Yellow Rain

... not enough? remember atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.. :/

Keep Calm
and
Shoot Porn

http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/..._1983Sep29.pdf

Add this to your list

Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons on the battlefields he just confined it to his concentration camps -- The Nazi Legacy ...

I wonder what Germany and the UK would be like today if Hitler and the Nazi regime met with no challenge? You would probably be speaking German in the UK if my father and millions of other USA GIs hadn't come to help you then -- what comes around goes around.

Si · 09-07-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I wonder what Germany and the UK would be like today if Hitler and the Nazi regime met with no challenge? You would probably be speaking German in the UK if my father and millions of other USA GIs hadn't come to help you then -- what comes around goes around.[/INDENT]

We've still got a German queen (Lowercase intended).

rogueteens · 09-08-2013, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I wonder what Germany and the UK would be like today if Hitler and the Nazi regime met with no challenge? You would probably be speaking German in the UK if my father and millions of other USA GIs hadn't come to help you then -- what comes around goes around.[/INDENT]

Good joke.

rogueteens · 09-08-2013, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helmuc

There has been only 1 case in the history of a large army using chemical weapons...

..

world war one, both sides used gas.

scottybuzz · 09-08-2013, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/..._1983Sep29.pdf

Add this to your list

Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons on the battlefields he just confined it to his concentration camps -- The Nazi Legacy ...

I wonder what Germany and the UK would be like today if Hitler and the Nazi regime met with no challenge? You would probably be speaking German in the UK if my father and millions of other USA GIs hadn't come to help you then -- what comes around goes around.

we'd probably be speaking russian

Bourke · 09-08-2013, 03:21 AM

What Robbie said.
When will the American govt learn that they are not the world police, and that war is not the immediate answer to whatever you care to point out? Why is valuing human life being a "pussy". Easy for someone to sit in their armchair and label another nation when you are not the one being sent to war. You'd prefer to send hundreds, maybe thousands, of American (and Brit, Aus, and Eu) young men and women to die of friendly fire, roadside bombs and suicide from PTSD? And for what exactly? To stand up for people you seem to hate? For a crisis than may well have been manufactured?
Douche.

Barry-xlovecam · 09-08-2013, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

we'd probably be speaking russian

That's interesting because initially I wrote Russian, hesitated then changed the post to read German.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop

This is what I've heard from friends and family in the UK. So don't blame "the Brits" or their political parties--blame George W. Bush and Tony Blair for lying back in 2003. Once bitten, twice shy . . . .

I did not notice this the first read. This really illustrates what I call the "boy who cried wolf syndrome" -- the WMD claim against Iran was a non-existent bogeyman.

Could Saddam have transferred those weapons to Syria along with the still not recovered SCUD missiles and their launchers as the rumour went or were the weapons actually destroyed or buried in the sands in the western Iraqi dessert? Chemical weapons did exist in Iraq -- Halabja is not a myth.

Meanwhile:

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The RIA-Novosti agency said two ships from Russia's Black Sea Fleet, the frigate Smetlivyi and the landing ship Nicholai Filchenkov, an electronic surveillance vessel, were ready to head to the region, according to a high-ranking source in the defense ministry.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...mediterranean/

I don't think they are landing troops with one landing ship looks to me more like they are preparing for an evacuation in the worst scenario. Putin may have got "spooked" at the G-20 meeting -- actions speak louder than words always.

DamianJ · 09-08-2013, 06:12 AM

Not really anything to do with being pussies. More to do with not having Halliburton run our country.

Go on, start another war with no evidence that is related to oil. Why not, you've gotten away with it the other times.

Jel · 09-08-2013, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I wonder what Germany and the UK would be like today if Hitler and the Nazi regime met with no challenge? You would probably be speaking German in the UK if my father and millions of other USA GIs hadn't come to help you then -- what comes around goes around.

Barry-xlovecam · 09-08-2013, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Not really anything to do with being pussies. More to do with not having Halliburton run our country.

Go on, start another war with no evidence that is related to oil. Why not, you've gotten away with it the other times.

Post-Vietnam complex and post-Iraq invasion complex -- justified to some extent.

Stay way from the London Underground remember the sarin attack on the Tokyo subway -- at least carry your own gas mask -- you may have time to put it on. This the world today...

Osama is laughing at us infidels from his grave:

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09-07-2013, 06:20 AM	#62
helmuc HostMaria Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: UK Posts: 438	There has been only 1 case in the history of a large army using chemical weapons... .. even natzis weren't using chemical stuff but pepper gas (and similar). .. more than 10 thousand people died then and much more had to live with mutations it caused. Place: South Vietnam Year: 1981 Aggressor: USA The day is remembered as: Yellow Rain ... not enough? remember atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.. :/ Keep Calm and Shoot Porn __________________ ☕ 🖥️ 🌱 Founder: HostMaria.com and DomainSummit.com \| Owner: DNForum.com and AcornDomains.co.uk Last edited by helmuc; 09-07-2013 at 06:23 AM..

08-31-2013, 11:34 AM	#52
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	not one person found my post funny? no-one? sad times

08-31-2013, 01:58 PM	#53
ctggls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 898	I think my thread was a little bit misunderstood and it is entirely my fault. I was not saying the Brits as a nations are pussies but rather the MPs which are lead by God knows what reason , to vote various things like this Syria attack. As I remember the vote was quite close , don't know the exact numbers but it was like 10 votes difference (or less) - some half wanted to go to "war" and the other half did not want.. It was not like 80% said no and only 20% said yes. This why I meant by "pussies" , rather a sign of weakness. I have Brit friends and they really nice guys and not at all pussies. So , my apologies to those who felt offended by the thread. Regarding the second part, about the Arabs it seems that somehow they find a way to take their hate and insider conflicts (armed ones) to they outside world like in the EU and US. From my experience with them, these guys are violent no matter where they go. There are a lot of immigrants where I live and the Arab ones are the worst doing all sort of killing and getting into all sort of conflicts. These guys are fighting now in Syria amongst themselves: some support Al Assad and some don't so they find a way to make a civil war out of it. As most of you can see these conflicts in the Arab world influences the petrol prices (and it usually goes up) and many other things in not such a nice way. This is why, stronger countries, with more armed forces should try and calm down the situation by some sort of armed intervention so things get back to "normal". Of course it's not a war in the true sense of the meaning but it's like if you see to guys beating each other, don't you call the police or try to break them up? it's kinda the same thing here. This vote of the GB MPs and the US positions shows a decline in the world's geopolitical order and if things continue like that there will be even more of such conflicts that , in a globalized world, will affect every individual no matter if's in the actual conflict zone or 100000km away... The Syrian actual regime must be thought a lesson. Today they attack amongst each other with chemical weapons and tomorrow they decided it's time to attack US , GB or Germany because , WTF, nobody will take action...

08-31-2013, 05:51 PM	#55
VIXEN ESCORTS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,103	Cameron is REALLY weak and a bad politician, he lost by 13 votes, 30 of his own party voted against, others didn't even bother to turn up. Cameron fucked up big time, this is nothing to do with the British people. It's purely coincedental that what parliament decided is in line with random polls.

08-31-2013, 05:57 PM	#56
VIXEN ESCORTS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,103	But despite Cameron being weak he is still a league above Milliband WHO HAD to say no because of the Iraq debacle. So what you have is a Labour Prime Minister, Tony Blair declaring war on Arab countries and now the Syrian people want our help, another Labour Leader Ed Milliband, tells them, sorry... NO DEAL.

08-31-2013, 05:59 PM	#57
VIXEN ESCORTS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,103	I think we can safely assume that the British Labour party are no fans of Islam or the Arab world.

09-08-2013, 03:21 AM	#68
Bourke Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 529	What Robbie said. When will the American govt learn that they are not the world police, and that war is not the immediate answer to whatever you care to point out? Why is valuing human life being a "pussy". Easy for someone to sit in their armchair and label another nation when you are not the one being sent to war. You'd prefer to send hundreds, maybe thousands, of American (and Brit, Aus, and Eu) young men and women to die of friendly fire, roadside bombs and suicide from PTSD? And for what exactly? To stand up for people you seem to hate? For a crisis than may well have been manufactured? Douche.

09-08-2013, 06:12 AM	#70
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Not really anything to do with being pussies. More to do with not having Halliburton run our country. Go on, start another war with no evidence that is related to oil. Why not, you've gotten away with it the other times.