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Pornflix · 12-15-2013, 11:58 AM

A German court has released the names and addresses of about 20,000 people whose IP addresses were detected on porn website Redtube in a copyright infringement case, NBC News reports.

First and foremost: how did U+C acquire the names and addresses of those who had viewed the streams? Streaming viewers don?t leave IP addresses exposed like P2P sharers do. Redtube denied turning over any user data. The theory arose that U+C had misled the courts by presenting Youtube as a ?swap meet,? i.e., a file sharing site. Obviously, Redtube is not in the business of file sharing and under German law, those viewing streams ? even if the streams themselves are infringing ? cannot be held liable for infringement. The other theory mooted was that U+C was utilizing some sort of malware to trap IP addresses, but no evidence has surfaced that this is the case. (Although, it should be pointed out that Google indicates Redtube ?might be hacked.?)
The other thing of interest in this case is that Red Tube itself issued a press release to tell users it had their back........
Read more: http://www.thedomains.com/2013/12/15...porn-watchers/

AdultKing · 12-15-2013, 12:27 PM

of course, everyone will believe what RedTube have to say on the matter

Wellness Cash · 12-15-2013, 12:38 PM

Where can we find the list, in excel format so that we can print off mailing lists easier?

DWB · 12-15-2013, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornflix

Redtube denied turning over any user data.

Fabian is in a world of shit in Germany for tax evasion and exposing minors to porn, Manwin merged with Redtube, and now Redtube's user list conveniently ends up in the hands of German authorities, and people actually believe this is all a coincidence?

VikingMan · 12-15-2013, 03:25 PM

Why would Germans ever look at Redtube anyway.........unless Redtube has scat videos.

k0nr4d · 12-15-2013, 11:06 PM

As i said in the other thread related to this a week or two ago - getting the ips is easy as pie...no hacking or malware required. Buy ad spot with another name/company/whatever, and track what hits your iframes/javascripts and what the referring url is...

BFT3K · 12-15-2013, 11:11 PM

Tube sites... am I right?

Captain Kawaii · 12-15-2013, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Fabian is in a world of shit in Germany for tax evasion and exposing minors to porn, Manwin merged with Redtube, and now Redtube's user list conveniently ends up in the hands of German authorities, and people actually believe this is all a coincidence?

- Fabian's quest to avoid butt sex in jail.

babymaker · 12-15-2013, 11:36 PM

Do you own PornFlix.Com ?? If so hit me up.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-15-2013, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Fabian is in a world of shit in Germany for tax evasion and exposing minors to porn, Manwin merged with Redtube, and now Redtube's user list conveniently ends up in the hands of German authorities, and people actually believe this is all a coincidence?

ADG

AHarper · 12-16-2013, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

As i said in the other thread related to this a week or two ago - getting the ips is easy as pie...no hacking or malware required. Buy ad spot with another name/company/whatever, and track what hits your iframes/javascripts and what the referring url is...

It seems that they bought german geo traffic via trafficholder, sent it to a domain called retdube.net and redirected that traffic to subpages containing their videos. Posted the link in the other thread.

seeandsee · 12-16-2013, 04:00 AM

how the fuck they "Detected" them on redtube? lol

$5 submissions · 12-16-2013, 04:58 AM

AHarper · 12-16-2013, 05:46 AM

Have a look at this

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adultmobile · 12-16-2013, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper

Have a look at this

Heise News

Busted. Blind redirect from randomtubess -> trafficholder ($3/k) -> movfile.net (save ip's) -> redtube. Guys ended up in redtube without even want or figure it. But increased the viewer count on redtube video page... there Konrad could have purchased a banner to track ip's back on redtube end, but seems unnecessary even.

_Richard_ · 12-16-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AHarper

Have a look at this

Heise News

here is hoping we have no consequences from this

AHarper · 12-16-2013, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_

here is hoping we have no consequences from this

Either:

(german) users avoid free streaming porn sites which might be a chance for the traditional sites

Or:

(at least german) porn surfers losing more trust in adult sites than they did before.

The lawyers told that more tube sites and their german users will be affected soon.

_Richard_ · 12-16-2013, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper

Either:

(german) users avoid free streaming porn sites which might be a chance for the traditional sites

Or:

(at least german) porn surfers losing more trust in adult sites than they did before.

The lawyers told that more tube sites and their german users will be affected soon.

all we need is one 'scandal' with a dead person, and life is really going to suck

campartner · 12-16-2013, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Buy ad spot with another name/company/whatever, and track what hits your iframes/javascripts and what the referring url is...

right.Investigation is running now by a public prosecutor's office. Some layers found a way to trick court by calling redtube a sharingcommunity or torrentsite not a streaming site.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-16-2013, 04:20 PM

Maybe Fabian will have the last laugh after all...what if he knew where the German investigation was going (since he is German, and was at the center of all of the intrigue), so he sells out his stake in Manwin (barely covering his original 100m "investment"), and then in turn sells out his backstabbing backers at MindGeek by showing the authorities how to bring down the house of cards.

ADG

happyending · 12-16-2013, 04:30 PM

Thank Gawd my names not on there.

I just watch Pr0n at work

Lichen · 12-16-2013, 04:33 PM

Hopefully these people sue the fuck out of Redtube

Rontagosh · 12-16-2013, 04:47 PM

Going into my copyright-overreach folder.

MaDalton · 12-17-2013, 03:23 AM

i have no idea how some of you get the idea Redtube would hand out IPs to a german court

The Hun · 12-17-2013, 04:07 AM

Not hard to get those IP addresses... Does this code ring a bell?:

var _gaq = _gaq || [];
_gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-2376569-1']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
(function() { var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js'; var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); })();

Google knows pretty much anything these days...

patrique007 · 12-17-2013, 05:20 AM

Real fucked up thing for porn users.

Zzap · 01-15-2014, 01:19 AM

Just use a VPN

adultchatpay · 01-15-2014, 01:57 AM

No more privacy for them.

tony286 · 01-15-2014, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i have no idea how some of you get the idea Redtube would hand out IPs to a german court

redtube is part of manwin or whatever the fuck they call themselves. They have a presence in germany, you bet your ass the court could get them.

topnotch, standup guy · 01-15-2014, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrique007

Real fucked up thing for porn users.

They're not real porn users, they're freeloaders.

Big difference.
.

happyending · 01-15-2014, 10:37 AM

Phew my names not on that list and I watch Pr0n all day

wait it's only Germans?

Well they can go GFY themselves.

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