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Old 10-28-2014, 04:10 PM   #51
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you're not very smart are you?
because I just described your vision of Utopia?
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:32 PM   #52
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because I just described your vision of Utopia?
well somewhat because your concepts hover in the 3rd grade range but mostly because your best ideas are to destroy the system that allows a stupid person like to run your mouth in public

think about, if you are able too: you belittle anyone that disagrees with you, you attack their business (trying to destroy their families) and try to destroy their public images...another attack on the family ... so if people like YOU ran the system... what do you suppose would happen when YOU started running your stupid 3rd grade mouth?

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Old 10-28-2014, 05:12 PM   #53
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well somewhat because your concepts hover in the 3rd grade range but mostly because your best ideas are to destroy the system that allows a stupid person like to run your mouth in public

think about, if you are able too: you belittle anyone that disagrees with you, you attack their business (trying to destroy their families) and try to destroy their public images...another attack on the family ... so if people like YOU ran the system... what do you suppose would happen when YOU started running your stupid 3rd grade mouth?
Well, you know everything...so I guess you're right.
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:15 PM   #54
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It's my understanding its original intent was to keep invading hoards out, it slowed them down but the mongols (play on words, mongrels! yuk yuk) among others, were merely slowed for a bit as they then proceed to lay waste to China time and again.

I'm recollecting though, ,........
You are correct; _Dick_ is an idiot
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:21 PM   #55
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You are correct; _Dick_ is an idiot
ok, what is your suggestion on the reasoning of building a wall to keep people out, while having massive breaks in said wall that would make this strategy pointless?

now, i know the police aren't the most creative tools in the shed.. and your logic will be going against the dudes who managed to spit out the art of war.. but just try for me.

they built an incomplete wall in order to.. ?
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:55 PM   #56
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:21 PM   #57
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Americans are free to leave. We aren't trying to keep people in, but trying to keep people out. If you feel the United States is unable to give you what you need.... Not a problem, there are people lined up to take your place.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:55 PM   #58
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Exactly how do you close a 3,145 km (1,954 mi) border?
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:42 AM   #59
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Your thread title is incorrect, it should read:

"it amazes me when people argue against closing the border"
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:45 AM   #60
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Well, you know everything...so I guess you're right.
just admit it...you're stupid: we were all discussing this story

According to Mexico’s national statistics institute (INEGI), there were 105,682 kidnappings last year but only 1,317 were reported to police.

June 30th last year army troops shot dead 15 civilians in cold blood before tampering with the crime scene to make it look like the victims died in crossfire.

An estimated 100,000 people have died, while 25,000 remain unaccounted for as the level of collusion between police, army, politicians and drug traffickers has reached epidemic proportions.

The trail of destruction wrought by drug violence is intimately connected to a political system which worships finance and turns a blind eye to corruption and money-laundering.


--------- see? we want to protect the border states from this level of violence and your thought is 'we are afraid some Mexican is going to sell us oranges by the freeway onramp' and you post some weird Nazi shit about hiding behind a wall in montana or where ever... and your dipshit moron buddies agree with you

simple fact: you can't understand what's going on around you...you are stupid

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Old 10-29-2014, 06:49 AM   #61
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:52 AM   #62
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You dont need a wall. its very simple if you hire an illegal immigrant you go to jail automatically for 5 yrs. When they are taking the ceo of some chicken plant out in shackles watch illegal immigration drop like a rock.
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:57 AM   #63
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In the BIG picture... If your a citizen of the US then why worry about it? You have NO voice and your opinion is just dust in the wind.

You FIRST have to start a business... lets see... maybe an invisible fence business that alerts guards when its breached... Call it the "Invisible Border Fence Company" and incorporate it and grow that business into a multi billion dollar industry that uses REALLY cheap labor... Hmmm lets say like, Illegal immigrants say from some place like um... MEXICO!!! Yeah, that will work - to maximize profits so you can afford to pay lobbyists to buy representatives and insure your voice is not only heard but your will to close the boarders will be..... Umm.... Well, Nevermind.
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Old 10-29-2014, 08:33 AM   #64
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In my opinion this is a problem created by the United States. And now we want to build our own version of "The Iron Curtain" to "solve" it?

Think about it for a minute.

Richard Nixon declares a "War On Drugs".
Jimmy Carter put it on the back burner (I read that during the Carter years, the entire DEA was a handful of agents)

Then Pres. Reagan fired it back up to the monster sized bureaucracy with an ARMY of DEA agents.

And what did they do?

They went after Colombia.
I remember it happening on the news very well.

The U.S. sent military "advisors" down to Colombia (the Feds threatened the country with sanctions if they didn't agree).
Immediately violence broke out in Colombia as the drug cartels began fighting the police and army (remember, they even killed the members of the Colombian Supreme Court)

Finally, after years of bloodshed and violence...the Cartels were "beaten" and the world was "safe" thanks to the U.S. Federal Govt.

NO!

The Mexicans took that over.

And THAT is when the so-called border "problem" really started.

Before that we didn't have a lot of violence on our border. And Mexico was a place that people drove down to and had fun.
Hell, our kids were going there for spring break (thanks to state govt's all raising the drinking age so a legal adult of 18-20 years old can't even have a fucking beer).

Now? It's a bloodbath because the United States Federal Govt. turned it into one with the "Drug War".

And they want to "fix" it by building a Wall?

I personally disagree with this 100%. This isn't "freedom".
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:16 PM   #66
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If you want to come here and live here, great - do it legally like the rest of us did.
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In my opinion this is a problem created by the United States. And now we want to build our own version of "The Iron Curtain" to "solve" it?

Think about it for a minute.

Richard Nixon declares a "War On Drugs".
Jimmy Carter put it on the back burner (I read that during the Carter years, the entire DEA was a handful of agents)

Then Pres. Reagan fired it back up to the monster sized bureaucracy with an ARMY of DEA agents.

And what did they do?

They went after Colombia.
I remember it happening on the news very well.

The U.S. sent military "advisors" down to Colombia (the Feds threatened the country with sanctions if they didn't agree).
Immediately violence broke out in Colombia as the drug cartels began fighting the police and army (remember, they even killed the members of the Colombian Supreme Court)

Finally, after years of bloodshed and violence...the Cartels were "beaten" and the world was "safe" thanks to the U.S. Federal Govt.

NO!

The Mexicans took that over.

And THAT is when the so-called border "problem" really started.

Before that we didn't have a lot of violence on our border. And Mexico was a place that people drove down to and had fun.
Hell, our kids were going there for spring break (thanks to state govt's all raising the drinking age so a legal adult of 18-20 years old can't even have a fucking beer).

Now? It's a bloodbath because the United States Federal Govt. turned it into one with the "Drug War".

And they want to "fix" it by building a Wall?
Man, spot... fucking... on.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:59 PM   #68
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we need a wall czar to fix this problem!

BO needs to tap a crony.
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