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Old 12-18-2014, 06:12 PM   #1
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um ...... ok Putin ... whatever you say

"Sometimes I think maybe it would be better for our bear to sit quietly, rather than chasing around the forest after piglets. To sit eating berries and honey instead. Maybe they will leave it in peace," Putin said.

"They will not. Because they will always try to put him on a chain, and as soon as they succeed in doing so, they tear out his fangs and his claws."

Putin said he was referring to Russia's nuclear arsenal, which protected its valuable natural resources.

"Once they've taken out his claws and his fangs, then the bear ... (will) become a stuffed animal," he said. "The issue is not Crimea. The issue is that we are protecting our sovereignty and our right to exist."

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Russia get rid of this kook, he's clearly not well.
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why would piglets chain up a bear and rip out his fangs and claws?
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Putin is 100% correct
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The Russians that I know agree with him. Scary folks over there.
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Russia get rid of this kook, he's clearly not well.
He's talking this because he's trying to divert attention from economic problems as a result of his unprofessional management. So he thinks the best way is to blame "the external enemy". This method usually works well for rednecks and clueless morons which are majority in any country.

Don't forget that both his own daughters live on the "evil West"...
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He's talking this because he's trying to divert attention from economic problems as a result of his unprofessional management. So he thinks the best way is to blame "the external enemy". This method usually works well for rednecks and clueless morons which are majority in any country.

Don't forget that both his own daughters live on the "evil West"...
anyway, you can't say that he is wrong 100 %. he has a lot of good reasons to say that. a lot.

and the last tax privilges for small companies and no taxes for newly open companies created in respsonse to current troubles? also his bad moves ?
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Putin want war, because economy sucks
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Well it's too early I think to make a judgement here. The oil price is fundamental and sure every $10 drop knocks a couple % off Russian GDP.

As global growth is slowing, there's a massive mismatch of supply and demand but a lot of this is the work of traders and markets jumping on the negative momentum. Bottom line markets always overshoot (in both directions) to upside and downside.

Russia's economy is not in such bad shape and actually Russia has a decent chunk of foreign currency reserves ($400 Bn) and debt is manageable. Russia debt/gdp is like 13% and the US debt/gdp is like over 105% (not include state debt and unfunded liabilities).

Putin still has 80% approval rating and China is offering support:

China steps into U.S. currency war against Russia and offers Putin major support - National Finance Examiner | Examiner.com

I guess it depends how long this persists.... with oil at sub $60 or even lower. I don't have an opinion on this but most major analysts and investors seem to think oil is back in the $70 - $80 range next year.

A lot blame is going to OPEC for trying to kill the US shale oil boom but actually if you look carefully, its mainly Russia and Iran that get hit the worst - co-incidence? Now, I'm not one of those who think the US is helping to manipulate the oil price lower (which can easily be done by the way).

Rather, global growth is slowing drastically and demand for the major commodities oil, gas, coal, iron ore, copper is actually proving this out. You need all those higher to demonstrate global growth and all are substantially lower. It looks like the deflation which is being talked about in the media.

China is slowing and of course China the main, major singular driver for demand on energy and industrial commodities. So it should be clearer in early 2016 how things are going to move forward but there's no easy answer because its complex.
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He's talking this because he's trying to divert attention from economic problems as a result of his unprofessional management. So he thinks the best way is to blame "the external enemy". This method usually works well for rednecks and clueless morons which are majority in any country.

Don't forget that both his own daughters live on the "evil West"...
That's exactly what it is. They are hating life there and it's going to get worse.
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anyway, you can't say that he is wrong 100 %. he has a lot of good reasons to say that. a lot.
Yes, he has. The USA have never been a friend for Russia and never will be. There is no need to repeat it again and again, because everybody knows it already. However it's not a reason to make such long and expressive speeches about "external enemies" while all our economical problems have absolutely internal nature. caused by his own thievish and unprofessional gang.

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and the last tax privilges for small companies and no taxes for newly open companies created in respsonse to current troubles? also his bad moves ?
Will not change anything.
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"The issue is not Crimea. The issue is that we are protecting our sovereignty and our right to exist."

There's only one country on the face of Earth who can say this and that's Israel whose neighbors have repeatedly stated their commitment to bring about the annihilation and disappearance of Israel. Are there Russians who truly believe that the United States goal is the non-existence of the country of Russia? This is ludicrous, there was a brief time where the US could have brought Russia to its knees with nuclear weapons and didn't. What the US wanted was to stop the spread of Communism across the world. It was the US who was threatened, the Communists' credo was that capitalism was evil and that worldwide communist revolution was the end goal.

Russians have been deluded by this demagogue. After the breakup of the Soviet Union Western companies rushed to invest and do business in Russia, not to enslave it, not to rob it of its natural resources.
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"The issue is not Crimea. The issue is that we are a bunch of unprofessional greedy thieves, who ruined the real Russian economics."
Fixed it for you.

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This is ludicrous, there was a brief time where the US could have brought Russia to its knees with nuclear weapons and didn't.
Not Russia, but the Soviet Union. And in fact they couldn't. The USSR was much-much bigger than Japan. The United States simple have not enough nukes to guaranty there will be no strike back to its own land from Soviets. If the States would dared to use nukes against the USSR, they would signed their own death sentence.

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What the US wanted was to stop the spread of Communism across the world
Have they stopped China? I don't think so. Wait for 10-20 years more and Chinese commies will be raping your asses.
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After the breakup of the Soviet Union Western companies rushed to invest and do business in Russia, not to enslave it, not to rob it of its natural resources.
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Yep, that was a real funny joke

"Siberia is too large and rich to belong to one country." ~ Madeleine Albright, the U.S. Secretary of State.

The USA is an aggressor (look at the history of all the post-WWII wars and look at their military budget) and course they would invade Russia if they've got a chance. Fortunately they haven't
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Yep, that was a real funny joke

"Siberia is too large and rich to belong to one country." ~ Madeleine Albright, the U.S. Secretary of State.

The USA is an aggressor (look at the history of all the post-WWII wars and look at their military budget) and course they would invade Russia if they've got a chance. Fortunately they haven't
Albright has made some idiotic statements in the past, that's no secret. That was probably one of her bigger "should have just kept the mouth shut" moments. But sorry to burst your bubble but the only 'invasion' the USA has ever done where Russia is concerned is business-wise. And thousands of Russians flock to those McBusinesses every day.

Ohhh those evil westerners! Investing millions into our country, employing our citizens! How dare they!

I don't find myself often agreeing with Mutt but in this case I'd say he's basically spot on. Nearly every time Putin opens his mouth lately he proves himself more and more a loon.

Comrades, you need to find yourselves a new fearless leader. And soon.
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course they would invade Russia if they've got a chance. Fortunately they haven't
You're out of your mind. Canada has vast riches in national resources, it would take the United States less than 24 hours to invade and conquer Canada.

Must suck to have been brought up to believe in the bogeyman.
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you fucking ruskies, your nationalism is crazy! so blind.

i much enjoy browsing GFY with you fuckers on ignore!

and for the record, yes there were times since the cold war when the US could hae wiped russia off the fucking map, they have no military of any real measurable size and no way to get it off their own fucking shores... they are fucked.
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Have they stopped China? I don't think so. Wait for 10-20 years more and Chinese commies will be raping your asses.
For the same reason we had no interest in going to war with the Soviet Union, we value our lives - America lost 500,000 people in WWII, Soviets lost 27 million. Congrats on your victory. The US used two hydrogen bombs to end the war rather than lose hundreds of more thousands of American lives fighting the Japanese on their home turf.

That was in August of 1945, it was 4 full years until the Soviets tested their first nuclear bomb in August of 1949. So the US had 4 years to build more nuclear bombs and bring the Soviet Union to its knees - and did not do it.
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Communism and fascism are characterized by paranoia. The Soviets actually believed that Reagan was planning a first strike on them, so much so that they almost started a nuclear war.

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For the same reason we had no interest in going to war with the Soviet Union, we value our lives -.
of course you do value your lives.

but only yours
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That guy is truly paranoid, he thinks the whole World is out there to get him. Like literally, every single person in the US and the EU has one goal in life and that's to do Russia harm, he definitely needs to get committed.
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That guy is truly paranoid, he thinks the whole World is out there to get him.
which is typical for ex-spies and intelligence workers ;-)
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