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Old 12-25-2014, 04:54 PM   #101
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Again, you are doing the same thing. Approval seeking behavior. Attraction has nothing to do with common interests. Thats a relationship and marriage. No woman will think "I want to get with him because he likes cats"

I always go the opposite direction.

"I don't mind cats too much. To be honest, i'm a little terrified of them. When i was 5 , my father was attacked by several cats as we walked through an alley and almost died. I still vividly remember holding his hand before the ambulance came with him saying goodbye to me and telling me that he loves me. It was really hard on me. There was a lot of blood".

"really, are you serious"

"of course not! what the hell is wrong with you?! why would you even believe that? Are you always so gullible?"
You're pretty fucking funny, dude.

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You're spot on! My approach I'm trying to agree with them, trying to show them I agree, basically the common people pleaser approach.

With your approach, you're making a joke, you're testing their humour and you're not agreeing with them.

Dam, this is tough. My approach has been straight forward, which seems boring and uninteresting.

Your approach is extremely creative, and grabs their attention.
Its how i am as a person though. I just say random shit and for whatever reason, it won't come off as offensive. Whatever you do, it has to be you saying it.. not a character you create. It has to work with your personality and your voice.

But yeah, you get it. Not agreeing. Not complimenting. Not buying drinks. Not kissing ass. Not bragging. Not showing off. Just making fun conversation without showing direct interest in them and at times, making fun of them a little in a lighthearted way. The whole time, they never really know if you're interested or not, if you like them or not, if you're trying to get with them or not... they just know you're fun and they want to spend more time with you. Then they start qualifying and selling themselves to you. That is the start of the perfect pickup.

Of course there are more steps to take things further, but its super hard for people to just master initiating the conversations, keeping it going, keeping the right tone, not showing too much interest and making it fun.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:02 PM   #103
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Its how i am as a person though. I just say random shit and for whatever reason, it won't come off as offensive. Whatever you do, it has to be you saying it.. not a character you create. It has to work with your personality and your voice.

But yeah, you get it. Not agreeing. Not complimenting. Not buying drinks. Not kissing ass. Not bragging. Not showing off. Just making fun conversation without showing direct interest in them and at times, making fun of them a little in a lighthearted way. The whole time, they never really know if you're interested or not, if you like them or not, if you're trying to get with them or not... they just know you're fun and they want to spend more time with you. Of course there are more steps to take things further, but its super hard for people to just master initiating the conversations, keeping it going, keeping the right tone, not showing too much interest and making it fun.
I agree with @jimmycooper - you're a legend! I can only imagine having you as a wing man, I'd forget this girl after half an hour

She basically did this to me. We would chat, she would spend time with me, but I wasn't sure if it was going anywhere, she wasn't showing direct interest.

Her personality is also extremely friend, which I think I might have been reading as possible interest/flirting.

I guess I need to try this whole new approach, play it cool, be mysterious and see how it goes.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:13 PM   #104
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You're pretty fucking funny, dude.

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You're pretty fucking funny, dude.
That example came to mind because actually, i was at a supermarket a few years ago and it was Thanksgiving Day... i bought some stupid stuff with my wife at the time. The cashier girl asks kind of stunned "what, no Turkey today" and I looked up with a really sullen look on my face and said "this is not a good day for me, its really hard for all of us" and she asked "why is that"... i just randomly said with sorrow in my voice "my father was killed by turkeys".

The bag boy froze with this horrified look on his face (young kid) and says "really??"

Then everyone is staring at me and i'm trying my best to tear up and just waiting for someone to ask "what happened".

You could see everyone wanted to but was afraid to.
It was so funny because no one wanted to be the first to ask such as stupid question.

I gave them some time and then pretended to be holding back tears and said "i'm sorry, i gotto go" and hurried out the store.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:32 PM   #105
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That example came to mind because actually, i was at a supermarket a few years ago and it was Thanksgiving Day... i bought some stupid stuff with my wife at the time. The cashier girl asks kind of stunned "what, no Turkey today" and I looked up with a really sullen look on my face and said "this is not a good day for me, its really hard for all of us" and she asked "why is that"... i just randomly said with sorrow in my voice "my father was killed by turkeys".

The bag boy froze with this horrified look on his face (young kid) and says "really??"

Then everyone is staring at me and i'm trying my best to tear up and just waiting for someone to ask "what happened".

You could see everyone wanted to but was afraid to.
It was so funny because no one wanted to be the first to ask such as stupid question.

I gave them some time and then pretended to be holding back tears and said "i'm sorry, i gotto go" and hurried out the store.
Awesome. At the end of day, whether it be in picking up girls or in other random interactions, it's always fun to amuse yourself. At least that's always been the case with me.
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Awesome. At the end of day, whether it be in picking up girls or in other random interactions, it's always fun to amuse yourself. At least that's always been the case with me.
Agreed. Life is short. I try to make it interesting and fun where i can.

I think people don't stop to think much about how fun a simple interaction can be. I love just being random ... "Hey, this is Jimmy... he is the most interesting guy you'll ever meet. He holds 2 world records. One of them is for being the only person alive with 4 kidneys. Its crazy. That's why he has such great skin. He is super embarrassed about the second, so don't ask, anyway, i have to go talk to my friends for a second, I'll be back"
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Start fucking her friends. She'll come back around when they tell her you're a tiger in the sack.

Just remember not to move so fast next time. Some women are scared of commitment until late 20's. Until then they just want a guy to fuck without labels. How you act around her will let her know that she's special; no cheesy card required.
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:25 PM   #108
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Here's some free advice that will actually change your life:

Do not "be yourself". Be who you WANT to be. What do I mean? From your approach with this girl to your posts about this subject here, it is obvious that you do not even know who "you" are yet. Which is ok and perfectly normal. Sometimes tho "fake it til you make it" can be powerful, as long as you choose a persona that doesn't lead you to be an arrogant asshole. LOL

Google Cary Grant/Archie Leech and see how he transformed his life from a cockney circus clown (yes) into one of the most sophisticated, charming and impressive leading men in Hollywood history.

Cheers!

Wrong, people never really change that much. The act will either wear off or be seen for what it is. For short time hook-ups it might work but OP seems to be looking for long term.

Like TheSquealer said,you can make yourself more interesting, but be yourself if you want a long lasting relationship.



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In a nutshell just treat them like you would your little sister. It has been said before that you kind of put them down a little in a fun way like you would do to your little sister. Be a bit of an ass. The hotter they are the better this method works.
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In a nutshell just treat them like you would your little sister. It has been said before that you kind of put them down a little in a fun way like you would do to your little sister. Be a bit of an ass. The hotter they are the better this method works.
Absolutely true, if the person is trying to be something he is not and never will be. I suppose I am talking about being a more idealized version of yourself. It's the same as with TheSquealer James Bond example. You don't actually believe you are James Bond, that would be delusional. LOL But you bring out the best aspects of yourself.

If you want to be more confident there's no trick to it, you just be more confident. Confidence is a feeling, and we, as human beings in control of our own minds, can trigger any feeling we want whenever we want.

So you are being you, just a better, more confident "you". A you at your best, as it were. If you will. :D
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Also when you walk into a room say hello right away. Show you are not afraid of her. Most guys just lurk around hot a hot woman and she can feel their eyes on her and she gets creeped out. After you say hello just walk away and talk to someone else. Make her want that attention. This works very well. For people who are famous this just happens because it is part of their life but if you are a regular guy you have to be conscious of it and make it happen.
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Here's a Pro Tip for you, just because it's motherfucking Christmas:

Treat celebrities like they are regular people and treat regular people like they are celebrities.

I'm a Ho Ho Ho (so I know).

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Agreed. Life is short. I try to make it interesting and fun where i can.

I think people don't stop to think much about how fun a simple interaction can be. I love just being random ... "Hey, this is Jimmy... he is the most interesting guy you'll ever meet. He holds 2 world records. One of them is for being the only person alive with 4 kidneys. Its crazy. That's why he has such great skin. He is super embarrassed about the second, so don't ask, anyway, i have to go talk to my friends for a second, I'll be back"
I've always kept it pretty standard and boring as has been pointed out, but I'm going to try think of a few creative things like this - just not sure I can pull it off, but worth a try.

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Just remember not to move so fast next time. Some women are scared of commitment until late 20's. Until then they just want a guy to fuck without labels. How you act around her will let her know that she's special; no cheesy card required.
I'm actually in my early 20s and she recently entered her early 30s, which is around a 7 to 8 year difference in age, this could also be a reason things didn't develop as I think she saw me as more of a kid and not an adult.

I consider myself to be mature, definitely more mature for my age and I'm not looking to play games with a girl. If she's interested then that's great, lets do things and see where it goes.

For this reason I think I prefer slightly older girls, because then hopefully they are more mature, they know what they want and they aren't looking to play games.

I look at girls my age and most are running around wild, getting drunk, partying like crazy - where I'm looking to do those things occasionally, but I would prefer other activities as well, not having that being the main focus.

So yeah, I think I am looking for something more long term, as that will hopefully cost less in emotions, because I see a relationship as an emotional investment.

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In a nutshell just treat them like you would your little sister. It has been said before that you kind of put them down a little in a fun way like you would do to your little sister. Be a bit of an ass. The hotter they are the better this method works.
Usually I throw compliments (If I have the confidence to) and usually I wouldn't dare say anything negative, I would rather avoid it. But I'm going to try this the next time I have an opportunity to put someone down, I just hope I'm able to find an opportunity that is not something extreme.

I basically need to put them down with a soft blow, but with my luck I will probably say something so bad that she will start crying

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Also when you walk into a room say hello right away. Show you are not afraid of her. Most guys just lurk around hot a hot woman and she can feel their eyes on her and she gets creeped out. After you say hello just walk away and talk to someone else. Make her want that attention. This works very well. For people who are famous this just happens because it is part of their life but if you are a regular guy you have to be conscious of it and make it happen.
I like this idea, as it differentiates me - its going to be pressure, but at least I would have made the first move and therefore have made an impression before other guys.

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Treat celebrities like they are regular people and treat regular people like they are celebrities.

I'm a Ho Ho Ho (so I know).

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I've always kept it pretty standard and boring as has been pointed out, but I'm going to try think of a few creative things like this - just not sure I can pull it off, but worth a try.
When you find yourself getting comfortable, realize that personal growth is then stopping ;)

You can do anything you are determined to do and anything worth doing takes practice to be good at.
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You are lucky, because you haven't had anything serious with her... That's just a short time feeling, you will be great, just get away from her...
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I think a guy usually has one bad break up. The rest are easy. Kind of fun watching a girl thinking she is crushing you, You just smile and say okay.
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Also keep your texts brief. Long texts suggest desperation. If she cancels a date or "hanging out" then just reply with "gay". I makes them wonder if you are mad or just indifferent. Hot girls respond well if they are left to wonder. Or you could say "you are buying drinks if we ever end up hanging out again". Also for put downs if I am not feeling creative or whatever I just call them dorks. I also say things like "Your dog freaking loves me, sorry about that" or "your dog thinks I am God" which implies their dog likes me more than them. I have had to hone my techniques since I gained weight and lost some of my good looks.

If you want to salvage this thing you have going with this girl then just do what she did to you. Meet up and then make an excuse of why you have to go. Be happy, dress a little better than usual. Make her wonder.

But like I said the best way is to just start seeing other women. They can smell it on you and they feel the need to compete. It drives hot girls crazy.
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dude...women are nothing special and, at best, average in bed...most of them age like fruit and so do most relationships...there is no such thing as a "special" woman...you will get bored after fucking it for 5 years no matter how hot she is...you will not find hapiness in kids or family because most kids are idiots and most fat wives suck balls...

the best you can do in life is to not be such a door mat who puts women on a pedestal, like its some sacred object...treat them like sneakers...you put sneakers on your feet and women on your dick...

make money, get pussy, move on to next pussy
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To use a photographer's analogy - I put advice to the lovelorn in the same category as when someone who buys a camera for the first time approaches me and says, "Hey, I just got a new camera. Can you tell me how to take pics like yours?"

As assholish as it likely sounds - I spent 50 years gaining experience and honing my skills, more often than not through trial-and-error. It's foolish to think Cliff Notes could encompass that.

Love and dealing with relationships is just like that. Trial and error - NOT going on an online forum and reading advice from a bunch of people I don't even know...and then trying to (probably badly) emulate what they suggest.

Just like photography, learn from your own mistakes - be self-aware enough to figure out what went wrong (and whether it's even your own fault)...and then try another approach. No one has the 'magic bullet' of advice that will solve the problem(s). It's within YOU. It all comes down to self-analysis and developing the ability to learn from your mistakes.
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Move to a 3rd world country. Ask the hottest girl you see out to dinner. She'll say yes 9/10 times. If you aren't sick of her after a few days, have her semi-move in to your place. She'll do it in a second, because chances are she lives in a shithole with 25 girls crammed into three-bedrooms.

Don't compliment her. Say stuff like, "I kicked the last girl out of here because she gained 3 lbs. Keep her off balance. Then after three months, rinse and repeat. It's not a bad lifestyle.

Or you can go back to watching Jennifer Aniston movies fantasizing that you find a girl just like her. Your choice really.

BTW, this is my current live-in. Been here one month. Notice the foldaway closet in the picture. That's where she keeps her clothes with the suitcase on top. I ain't sharing my closet space and if I want her gone, it'll just take a quick call to security downstairs.

Grow some balls and be a dick. Works wonders.

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Move to a 3rd world country. Ask the hottest girl you see out to dinner. She'll say yes 9/10 times. If you aren't sick of her after a few days, have her semi-move in to your place. She'll do it in a second, because chances are she lives in a shithole with 25 girls crammed into three-bedrooms.

Don't compliment her. Say stuff like, "I kicked the last girl out of here because she gained 3 lbs. Keep her off balance. Then after three months, rinse and repeat. It's not a bad lifestyle.

Or you can go back to watching Jennifer Aniston movies fantasizing that you find a girl just like her. Your choice really.

BTW, this is my current live-in. Been here one month. Notice the foldaway closet in the picture. That's where she keeps her clothes with the suitcase on top. I ain't sharing my closet space and if I want her gone, it'll just take a quick call to security downstairs.

Grow some balls and be a dick. Works wonders.

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I have a housekeeper who comes in 3 times a week, so cleaning isn't an issue - but I do give her shit about finding her hair all over the place.

Don't really cook at home, but she makes sure I have freshly squeezed juices in the fridge and healthy snacks. So I'll keep her around a little while longer.

And as you can see, I'm no oil painting, just have a few bucks and the right attitude.



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but I do give her shit about finding her hair all over the place.
Hmm...a third-world shithole country, a whore from the projects and you're concerned with her stray hair in the apartment?

I'd be thinkin' more of STDs, crabs 'n lice.
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Hmm...a third-world shithole country, a whore from the projects and you're concerned with her stray hair in the apartment?

I'd be thinkin' more of STDs, crabs 'n lice.
Fair point. But this one was never a whore. Been with one guy since she was 14 (she's 20 now) and was working as a cashier in a restaurant when I charmed her away. Is she the best in bed? No. But she follows directions well and does the things that get me off. That's enough for me.
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Fair point. But this one was never a whore. Been with one guy since she was 14 (she's 20 now) and was working as a cashier in a restaurant when I charmed her away. Is she the best in bed? No. But she follows directions well and does the things that get me off. That's enough for me.
Yep and living in conservative Malaysia she took this picture trusting you would post and brag about it on an adult board. dick.
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I have a housekeeper who comes in 3 times a week, so cleaning isn't an issue - but I do give her shit about finding her hair all over the place.

Don't really cook at home, but she makes sure I have freshly squeezed juices in the fridge and healthy snacks. So I'll keep her around a little while longer.

And as you can see, I'm no oil painting, just have a few bucks and the right attitude.



She's not that hot and you need to lose some weight. A lot of weight.
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dude...women are nothing special and, at best, average in bed...most of them age like fruit and so do most relationships...there is no such thing as a "special" woman...you will get bored after fucking it for 5 years no matter how hot she is...you will not find hapiness in kids or family because most kids are idiots and most fat wives suck balls...

the best you can do in life is to not be such a door mat who puts women on a pedestal, like its some sacred object...treat them like sneakers...you put sneakers on your feet and women on your dick...

make money, get pussy, move on to next pussy
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I have a housekeeper who comes in 3 times a week, so cleaning isn't an issue - but I do give her shit about finding her hair all over the place.

Don't really cook at home, but she makes sure I have freshly squeezed juices in the fridge and healthy snacks. So I'll keep her around a little while longer.

And as you can see, I'm no oil painting, just have a few bucks and the right attitude.
This is a thread to help a guy get a little game going. Not to explain to him how fat losers can move to shithole countries and fuck desperate whores until they're tired of them.

Anyone with a personality can do just fine at home and get any girl they want... without money. Only desperate, immature, dysfunctional and insecure slobs with no personality think like you do.
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Is she the best in bed? No. But she follows directions well and does the things that get me off. That's enough for me.
Forgot I'm in KL in a couple of weeks. I should pop in to Mikey's Pizza and discuss her bedroom performances. Obviously she gave you her consent to post her pictures and doesn't mind right? cunt.
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This is a thread to help a guy get a little game going. Not to explain to him how fat losers can move to shithole countries and fuck desperate whores until they're tired of them.

Anyone with a personality can do just fine at home and get any girl they want... without money. Only desperate, immature, dysfunctional and insecure slobs with no personality think like you do.
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Well that's always a good backup plan: go to a thrid world Asian country and even if you are an old fat asshole pig you can get a 20 year old girl/whore/desperate for a better life chick. Works great if you don't mind everyone everywhere looking at you and going "Ewwww".

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This thread went from zero-to-harsh in nothin' flat.

Impressive.
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Stop pursuing and forget about her. If she wants you she'll come back. One big thing chicks don't like is a guy who seems needy.

Start fucking other girls, and when she calls you can tell her to fuck off -- in the nicest way possible of course. The she'll start stalking you.
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drink and cry like a bitch ive been there it hurts and sum songs still trigger shit no lie
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This thread went from zero-to-harsh in nothin' flat.

Impressive.
That's what happens when fat, disgusting pigs delude themselves into thinking that they're some type of role model and try to give advice while making everyone throw up in the process.
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Well that's always a good backup plan: go to a thrid world Asian country and even if you are an old fat asshole pig you can get a 20 year old girl/whore/desperate for a better life chick. Works great if you don't mind everyone everywhere looking at you and going "Ewwww".

Randyrandy = Ewwwww.
I thought you were much more libertine, Mr. Peadbody...
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drink and cry like a bitch ive been there it hurts and sum songs still trigger shit no lie
What songs? If you post the embeds of each of them right here in this thread, you will reclaim them as your own and won't have to risk them triggering shit in the future. Look at it as like an act of spiritual cleansing. We're here to help.
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This thread went from zero-to-harsh in nothin' flat.

Impressive.
good reminder to keep ones private doings off this board...
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yes just as anybody can buy 20$ jeans for 1000$...he WAS trying to help the guy out and thell him that jeans are nothing special and you can get them for 20$ instead of 1000$ dig?

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20$ aint much LOL..sheesh you would pay like 100$ for a dinner in a louse restaurant in the USA


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and only insecure, pussified, wallets agree to fuck one and the same thing for like 20 years whilst she cock blocks you whilst you work your ass off to support the fattening of hers and then she multiplies and youre fucked

dude...that guy with the live-in-whore gets his dick polished better than you do you are not really steering the OP in a good direction LOL
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dude...that guy with the live-in-whore gets his dick polished better than you do you are not really steering the OP in a good direction LOL
the guy with the live in whore is trying to fill a hole in himself that can never be filled and can't be filled by young girls. He's trying to mask the pain of never getting laid in school, being a late bloomer, being insecure and being morbidly obese, never having friends and never being popular by paying for the company of women that he could never attract otherwise and then telling himself that he's special.

I've spent over 10 years living in shithole countries seeing people like him daily. In Bangkok as one example, he's just one more in a long parade of sad and desperate middle aged slobs trying to find a young girl to roll around on and walking arm in arm down the street with a girl that looks 14 as everyone looks at him in disgust and talks about him and points at him when he's not looking.

Thats fine if you're disturbed or if thats your only chance to get laid in life. Every one that see's him and her knows exactly whats going on and exactly whats wrong with him and exactly why she is with him. He'd have you think its a choice. That he's going to use her and toss her out but the truth is, he has no other alternative. He couldn't meet a cute young girl any other way because he's weak. Because he's everything that turns girls off. He's paying for a whore who is compromising everything she might believe in and holding back each time she pukes in her mouth, so she can make a few bucks as she fakes a smile. Thats not a point to brag to friends and strangers about.

Most people, including the OP are looking for a fulfilling relationship, to be in love and to spend their time with someone they really care about and who equally cares about them. Nothing you have said is conducive to that end.
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Is this one?

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