Legal action agains The Butcher aka Dave aka NFVLTD

[Urbi]

Hey guys,
if you are victim of this guy, please let me know. I`m starting legal action against him. Saw that he comfortably making fraud to many people and laughing out loud. Let`s stop him.

[JFK]

what happened ?

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by JFK

what happened ?

Stole my domain Webmasterland.com... after I transfered ownership to him, he stopped Paypals echeck.. it`s now three months of excuses why he cant pay by paypal, by wire, by certified cheque... he play the classic debtors game "I`ll pay you next week"...

[PornDiscounts-V]

Popcorn is popping and I am refilling my drink.

[bloggerz]

Hope you get your name back

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

Popcorn is popping and I am refilling my drink.

lol could be nice movie for many people...

associated thread is https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=1988...1#post19888741

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

Poopcorn is pooping and I am refilling my drink.

I like poopcorn...

[Deputy Chief Command]

how much was it sold for? how much has he paid already and how much does he thus still owe you?


I doubt you were making any good money on that domain? so he probably is also not making any? did you sell it too expensive?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

how much was it sold for? how much has he paid already and how much does he thus still owe you?


I doubt you were making any good money on that domain? so he probably is also not making any? did you sell it too expensive?

not being funny, but cancelling a check after an agreement was made, and domain received = doesn't matter if the domain was worth two-fiddy and was sold for 9mill; what he did was outright theft.

[Niki]

Originally Posted by Urbi

lol could be nice movie for many people...

associated thread is https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=1988...1#post19888741

you've linked it to this thread ... good luck anyway

[SGS]

Someone really doesn't know who the butcher is after all these years?

[TheDA]

Originally Posted by SGS

Someone really doesn't know who the butcher is after all these years?

I know who he is. He's a bit of a cunt.

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

how much was it sold for? how much has he paid already and how much does he thus still owe you?


I doubt you were making any good money on that domain? so he probably is also not making any? did you sell it too expensive?

Domain was agreed on 900usd, he paid 0usd.

Also he havent been forced to buy this domain from me, so it`s pointless if this domain have or dont have a value. For someone it have value, for someone dont.

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by Jel

not being funny, but cancelling a check after an agreement was made, and domain received = doesn't matter if the domain was worth two-fiddy and was sold for 9mill; what he did was outright theft.

exactly, and he choosed wrong victim now I gave him 3 months to pay or return domain. He didnt do anything but "sorry bro, will pay you next week"..ok than, let`s try to stop him.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Urbi

Domain was agreed on 900usd, he paid 0usd.

Also he havent been forced to buy this domain from me, so it`s pointless if this domain have or dont have a value. For someone it have value, for someone dont.

Blatant Rip Off

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by JFK

Blatant Rip Off

yes let`s see what legal justice can do.

[Rebel D]

I think biggy had an issue with him if i remember right

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by Rebel D

I think biggy had an issue with him if i remember right

than please let him know, to act. There is a good chance to make things back to order.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I like poopcorn...

[~Ray]

if you add other folks, it will no longer be small claims and it will cost you 10 times more to file a case.

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

if you add other folks, it will no longer be small claims and it will cost you 10 times more to file a case.

Ray, each of his victims is from other country, so it wont be one big claim, but for legal organs in his country will be good if they receive more complaints from different people pointing to one guy. Trust me I went trough this in case of two guys scammed here around 200 people for complete of 30k usd and in one week there is a hearing and sentence.

The problem is in victims. They often shut up and don`t do anything, probaby because they are shamed of themselves that they was not that prudent to not let thief from fraud on them.

[Kenny B!]

First off you might want to change your signature;-)

Secondly in Montreal it takes quite a bit of time to get through small claims count, up to 18 months before they hear the case.

Really sucks you got ripped off, hopefully these threads will get him to pay up or return the domain to you.

[TheButcher]

I have not posted here in 7-8 years from what I recall. This one deserved a reply.

I did buy webmasterland, the echeck was not canceled by me, it was because PP discovered I was using the account for adult transactions. I did initiate a wire to the seller, it failed. For the simple reason that the bank requires the name and address of the recipient.

I have been asking the seller (OP) for his name and address over and over again with no result.

He refuses to provide the name and address for a check, I will not re-wire him with the information he provided me, it is not going to go through. The bank requires an address for the person you send a wire to. This already cost me money.

I have been in communication all along, and even emailed him yesterday before he started all the drama. Asking him for a name and address to mail a certified check to him by registered mail. Of course I got no co-operation from him.

I told him today, screw it. I will go setup a paypal account today, send him a payment tomorrow.

He has been on a crusade to write his side of the story all this time in multiple threads.
He has forgotten to mention I am the one chasing him to pay him but can not do so without his name and address.

People contacted me yesterday about this, I am not dropping names, they know who they are and so does the OP. All I have asked them to provide me is a name and address to send him a check, they could not get it, he won't give it to me.

So the bottom line is, I went out of my way to setup a paypal to pay him tomorrow.

This will get paid tomorrow.

For the record I have bought over 200 domains in the past month, and still buying domains. You have a domain with PR I and higher am buying, I don't nickel and dime I will pay top dollar if the name makes sense. email me, it is not hard to find my email address.

This is my one and only post on the subject.People who know me,know me, and I am not into drama. I actually encourage everyone on my own board not to create drama. I will not get dragged into further drama, I said my peace, he will get paid by paypal tomorrow and that's all there is to it.

He would have gotten paid months ago by wire or check if only he provided what the bank requires for a wire or a check to mail him.

Happy thanks giving.

Peace

[TumblrPRO]

If this is the same "The Butcher" I know, owner of another adult forum (SC), he looks like a very good guy. Not someone who would be involved in these kind of things... At least it doesn't look like it. And he is saying he will pay you, which proves this.

Most Daves I know are good people anyways.



Just for the record: The only scammer Dave I know, is one involved in the Cam Business. He believes hes a B.O.S.S., but he's a fucking loser and scammer who stole money from webmasters in one of his old cam/reality programs in the past. Yep, everything is documented, won't talk about it here FOR NOW (ONLY FOR NOW), but if anyone is interested send me a PM. So take care with that specific shitty Dave. A loser who can only get laid by paying Strippers. Maybe one day I will open a new thread with the full story and nicks/names of that loser.

Nothing else to add.

Bye.

[lucas131]

butcher always gave back what he borrowed, as far as i remember ... have luck solving this

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by lucas131

butcher always gave back what he borrowed, as far as i remember ... have luck solving this

yep sometimes late but always cleared it up with me said it b4 in another thread years ago here.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Urbi

Stole my domain Webmasterland.com... after I transfered ownership to him, he stopped Paypals echeck.. it`s now three months of excuses why he cant pay by paypal, by wire, by certified cheque... he play the classic debtors game "I`ll pay you next week"...

Originally Posted by TheButcher

I did buy webmasterland, the echeck was not canceled by me, it was because PP discovered I was using the account for adult transactions.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1103064

Originally Posted by chickahoona

Hi, lent $300 to TheButcher ICQ 331446617 with the promise to get $330 back 3 days later.

After a few weeks later he said his accounts have been frozen because of adult biz. Working on a new account.
After a few months later he said he could send me a check because its not working out.
After another week, still no proof, but him asking for my paypal acc.
After a few more weeks, still no payment.
...
Last week I got a payment of $350 to my paypal account, with the promise of more weekly payments.

Now the payment got reversed and hes telling again that the bank froze his acc...

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=9580075

Originally Posted by MosesTheTool

He sent me an ECHECK.

This smelled bad also, after a few days the ECHECK was cancelled.

..................................

He said they froze his account for a week (paypal) to see what they can do to get me my money or something,

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=15920115

Originally Posted by papill0n

wow the arsehole just hit me up with a string of abusive messages so I better add some details

I loaned the guy $400 which was to be paid back the next day - 10 days later still nothing so I hit him up and he gives me the 'bro' this 'bro' that responses. I will have my girl send you $400 straight away bro! Sure enough that happened but

it was a paypal echeck which was cancelled right before I was due to get the money.

Hmmm. quite a "recurring theme" going on here across the years.

But I am sure it is just coincidence, eh Dave?



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[Jel]

and another: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19889370&postcount=208

[Tookie-]

Originally Posted by Urbi

Hey guys,
if you are victim of this guy, please let me know. I`m starting legal action against him. Saw that he comfortably making fraud to many people and laughing out loud. Let`s stop him.

yeah right

[DAMNMAN]

Originally Posted by Jel

not being funny, but cancelling a check after an agreement was made, and domain received = doesn't matter if the domain was worth two-fiddy and was sold for 9mill; what he did was outright theft.

True.... But lesson learned. Use domain escrow account from now on.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

how much was it sold for? how much has he paid already and how much does he thus still owe you?


I doubt you were making any good money on that domain? so he probably is also not making any? did you sell it too expensive?

WTF are you smoking? Who cares if it was 10$ or 100.000$? We are speaking about scamming fact that happened.

[mamaliga]

Originally Posted by sarettah

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1103064



https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=9580075



https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=15920115



Hmmm. quite a "recurring theme" going on here across the years.

But I am sure it is just coincidence, eh Dave?



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Thebustcher sounds like douch full-time job.

[anexsia]

I remember visiting SC once and I couldn't stop laughing because it was like everyone was talking to themselves because over half the users there are obviously fake users.

[Manfap]

How the fuck do you account for the domain purchase in your tax records, if you havent got the information of the person you purchased it from?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

[nekrom]

Should of used escrow.com, just saying.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO

If this is the same "The Butcher" I know, owner of another adult forum (SC), he looks like a very good guy.

So, you're another of his fake nicks?

No one with an ounce of common sense could have ever looked at his forum and thought it was good. It was a scam end to end to extract ad dollars from the mentally challenged. It was all him, with fake nicks, talking to himself. Famously so.

[Magnetron]

Butcher paid me no problem for a bit of business a few months back. Paxum.

[Urbi]

Originally Posted by nekrom

Should of used escrow.com, just saying.

thats right, so next time.

[Urbi]

UPDATE : TheButcher sent me eCheck via Paypal, so let`s see if it will be cleared this time.

Just want to inform you all about that, because TheButcher accused me from slander...

[Magnetron]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

So, you're another of his fake nicks?

No one with an ounce of common sense could have ever looked at his forum and thought it was good. It was a scam end to end to extract ad dollars from the mentally challenged. It was all him, with fake nicks, talking to himself. Famously so.

As someone who once adminned a forum that encouraged the use of fake nicks while having several dozen of my own therein, I find the practice you speak of as disengenuine.

Almost as disengenuine as a business forum where it is common knowledge amongst its veteran participants that multiple nicks not only do exist, but that there are individuals who even go to ridiculous lengths of flaming themsevles to promote products in posts and signatures.

I believe this practice is referred to as Fucking Around & Program Discussion.

[DamianJ]

*disingenuous

and not sure if you know what the word means. I am absolutely sincere in saying that TheButcher set up a forum, and used hundreds of fake nicks talking to himself to try and trick people out of money.

[rogueteens]

wasn't SC once up for an XBiz award and all the other forums asked to be removed from the running in protest?

[Magnetron]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

*disingenuous

and not sure if you know what the word means. I am absolutely sincere in saying that TheButcher set up a forum, and used hundreds of fake nicks talking to himself to try and trick people out of money.

If you could go over there and point out an instance of him talking to his own fake nicks, surely you could point to the same thing happening here at GFY.

When you demonstrate that you are capable of spotting an individual interacting with himself here at GFY, then I would be more willing to take you at your word.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by Urbi

UPDATE : TheButcher sent me eCheck via Paypal, so let`s see if it will be cleared this time.

Just want to inform you all about that, because TheButcher accused me from slander...

Hope it works out for ya,

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Magnetron

If you could go over there and point out an instance of him talking to his own fake nicks, surely you could point to the same thing happening here at GFY.

I've not been there since he tried to scam me into advertising when I was working for playboy UK. Then, it was hard to find an example of a discussion that wasn't him talking to himself.

No one here is using fake nicks to try and sell advertising by trying to make this board look busy. Eric is not posting under multiple nicks.

If you can't see the difference between Boneprone posting as himself then as Achmed for shits and giggles and The Butcher trying to scam advertisers, then I've got nothing else to say.

[nikki99]

this is going to be interesting...........

[Magnetron]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I've not been there since he tried to scam me into advertising when I was working for playboy UK. Then, it was hard to find an example of a discussion that wasn't him talking to himself.

No one here is using fake nicks to try and sell advertising by trying to make this board look busy. Eric is not posting under multiple nicks.

If you can't see the difference between Boneprone posting as himself then as Achmed for shits and giggles and The Butcher trying to scam advertisers, then I've got nothing else to say.

So, it is OK to participate for 7 years on a board that has individuals interacting with themselves using fake nicks because none of them have tried scamming you and nevermind everyone else. Then you cite one example of a blatantly obvious fake nick used for entertainment purposes only.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I thought for a moment that given your past experience, you might indeed have to capacity to spot one of these people in the present.

[_Richard_]

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

that looks creepy!