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Framar · 03-26-2015, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Are you an idiot? There are official stats and they are open to everyone. Go to the CBR website, set the time period and get the report. That's all you have to do actually. Is that so hard for an american clown like you? Sorry but I didn't get it. How a mature person can be that stupid?

Here, have a shovel of pancakes and STFU

Horatio Caine · 03-26-2015, 12:25 PM

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Horatio Caine · 03-26-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Framar

Here, have a shovel of pancakes and STFU

Be nice. He doesn't eat off the shovel, he eats off the floor.

Slappin Fish · 03-26-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

15.01.2015 -38 ? -38
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Doesn't even matter though, that fool doesn't understand anything, Palladium stocks, Nickel, Copper, PGM, Gold, everything can be sold.

Here is FX and Gold figures (official) Russian c.bank gold/forex reserves fall to $363 bln in latest week | Reuters

How did it go down twenty billion if there's no transactions?

Sid70 · 03-26-2015, 01:42 PM

Russian Official Shit.

pimpmaster9000 · 03-26-2015, 01:44 PM

meanwhile the new russian jet kicks US ass LOL

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/rus...s-9edbae7da1ee

Horatio Caine · 03-26-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

meanwhile the new russian jet kicks US ass LOL

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/rus...s-9edbae7da1ee

Did you miss word "could" our unhappy Balkan shitstain?

Sid70 · 03-26-2015, 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=crucifissio;20430276]meanwhile the new russian jet kicks US ass LOL

Samsung invented the background first.

just a punk · 03-26-2015, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

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Look at the dates, clown. At that time ruble was as low as never because oil price has dropped in almost 2x times. Ruble started to grow only during the last couple of months when oil price stabilized and when there were no Central Bank interventions (they were completely stopped on 03.02.2015). As I said above, you are an idiot, son - a classic victim of the US education system

P.S. So what's about "sanctions"? Why don't they work?

TCLGirls · 03-27-2015, 12:23 AM

crappy conversion for crappy cuntry

iwantchixx · 03-27-2015, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

All economical sanctions always work for a long term. Is they don't, they are just a giglet. Let me tell you "a secret". Ruble has started dropping a long time before the so-called "sanctions". It was falling since the end of 2013, and when oil prices depreciated twice in 2014, ruble has seriously dropped as well. But how it could be related to the Obama's speech about "Russian economy which is torn to pieces"? He is a master of twaddle (there is no doubt about it) who can't do anything for real. The "torn to pieces" economy can't recover up to 20% for a couple of months, especially if "sanctions" were not lifted during that time. Otherwise those sanctions simply don't work. I thought it's just obvious...

I can't take a currency seriously that sounds like it came from the Flinstones. Seriously, Ruble?

Your constant angst against America is growing old. Are you a webmaster or a political analyst/propaganda-slinger? This is a webmaster board full of mostly Americans that could potentially purchase your services and products... not a political band stand.

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Your constant angst against America is growing old. Are you a webmaster or a political analyst/propaganda-slinger? This is a webmaster board full of mostly Americans that could potentially purchase your services and products... not a political band stand.

I have nothing against America (both North and South). But if you need an explanation, it's here: https://gfy.com/20429945-post11.html

pimpmaster9000 · 03-27-2015, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Did you miss word "could" our unhappy Balkan shitstain?

yes you are right...it "could" kick US jets ass if the US jet was not grounded for being shit

woj · 03-27-2015, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

The American assclown is back. Good morning, funster

Once again for Florida circus members: no reserves were used to stabilize ruble during last couple of months (yes, I'm surprised too). Brush your teeth, wash your eyes, take an anti-hangover pill (better take two) and re-read this thread again: the stats on "burning" of federal reserves to support ruble were posted here - try to find them

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Of course no reserves were used to stabilize RUB, but yet magically reserves are shrinking by 15B per month...

28/02/2015 360,221
31/01/2015 376,208
31/12/2014 385,460
....
28/02/2014 493,326

http://www.cbr.ru/eng/hd_base/Default.aspx?Prtid=mrrf_m

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

Of course no reserves were used to stabilize RUB, but yet magically reserves are shrinking by 15B per month...

28/02/2015 360,221
31/01/2015 376,208
31/12/2014 385,460
....
28/02/2014 493,326

Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia

Another professor in da house. Now read my first post in this thread. Just do it slowly to ensure you understood what's written there. Hint: "a couple of months ago". If you don't know what couple is, I'm talking about February 2015 and March 2015 - the time period when ruble was strengthening (go up, but not down). Any interventions of CBR since February 2nd? Maybe "obama-sanctions" were lifted already or what?

woj · 03-27-2015, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Another professor in da house. Now read my first post in this thread. Just do it slowly to ensure you understood what's written there. Hint: "a couple of months ago". If you don't know what couple is, I'm talking about February 2015 and March 2015 when ruble was strengthening.

what does your first post has to do with anything?

you made a claim that Russian central bank isn't using reserves to stabilize RUB, which clearly is not true...

"no reserves were used to stabilize ruble during last couple of months (yes, I'm surprised too)"

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

what does your first post has to do with anything?

Really, what?

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Originally Posted by woj

you made a claim that Russian central bank isn't using reserves to stabilize RUB, which clearly is not true...

"no reserves were used to stabilize ruble during last couple of months (yes, I'm surprised too)"

And? Isn't that true? The last intervention of CBR was carried out on February 2nd.

woj · 03-27-2015, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Really, what?

And? Isn't that true?

20/03/2015 352,900
28/02/2015 360,221
31/01/2015 376,208
31/12/2014 385,460

looks to me like reserves are shrinking... so far this year shrank about 35B, last 2 ("couple") months shrank about 25B...

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

20/03/2015 352,900
28/02/2015 360,221

Where did you get that? The CBR site shows this:

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As about 28.02.2015, so it was Saturday (check up with your calendar). CIB doesn't work on Saturday and Sunday, so these dates are not included into the report. Once again: where did you get that information?

woj · 03-27-2015, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Where did you get that? The CBR site shows this:

25.03.2015 — — —

Whatever you just pasted doesn't even show up here, shows up as: "_"
I got my data from: Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia

so what's the deal, this data is obviously not accurate? it's some western propaganda site?

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

Whatever you just pasted doesn't even show up here, shows up as: "_"
I got my data from: Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia

so what's the deal, this data is obviously not accurate?

I've got my data from the same site. Care to post a screenshot here? Your stats is a fake just because 28.02.2015 was a holiday

Try again please

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Originally Posted by woj

Whatever you just pasted doesn't even show up here, shows up as: "_"

"—" means ZERO.

woj · 03-27-2015, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I've got my data from the same site. Should I post a screenshot here? Your "stats" is a fake just because 28.02.2015 was a holiday. Try again please

I don't need a screenshot, the link I pasted from Russian central bank ( Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia ) clearly sums up what's going on, anything else is just clever accounting / propaganda on Russian central bank's part... they may claim there is no intervention, but obviously the $15B/month is going somewhere, and we both know where...

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

I don't need a screenshot, the link I pasted from Russian central bank ( Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia ) clearly sums up what's going on

And that link says that 28.02.2015 was a working day? Are you or, man?

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Originally Posted by woj

but obviously the $15B/month is going somewhere

In your dreams. According to http://www.cbr.ru/eng/hd_base/?PrtId=valint_day there was only one intervention for 690 millions on 02.02.2015.

Edit: I see now. You were unable to find a proper button

)))) You have to look here http://www.cbr.ru/eng/hd_base/?PrtId=valint_day (Data on the Bank of Russia FX operations)

http://www.cbr.ru/Eng/hd_base/?PrtId=mrrf_m is a wrong data for you, because it's the International Reserves of the Russian Federation which includes the internal expenses too.

You guys are really amusing

woj · 03-27-2015, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

And that link says that 28.02.2015 was a working day? Are you or, man?

In your dreams. According to Daily data | Databases | Bank of Russia there was only one intervention for 690 millions on 02.02.2015.

Edit: I see now. You were unable to find a proper button

)))) You have to look here Daily data | Databases | Bank of Russia (Data on the Bank of Russia FX operations)

Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia is a wrong data for you, because it's the International Reserves of the Russian Federation which includes the internal expenses too.

You guys are really amusing

like I said, one page [ Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia ] sums everything up, the rest is just spin / propaganda... but either way, sure, you are right, you win... the $15B/month was used for "internal expenses" instead of stabilizing your currency...

Horatio Caine · 03-27-2015, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Look at the dates, clown. At that time ruble was as low as never because oil price has dropped in almost 2x times. Ruble started to grow only during the last couple of months when oil price stabilized and when there were no Central Bank interventions (they were completely stopped on 03.02.2015). As I said above, you are an idiot, son - a classic victim of the US education system

P.S. So what's about "sanctions"? Why don't they work?

Whats wrong with those dates dipshit? Are they supposed to be yesterday's date for you to see immediate results? Thats not how markets work idiot. Your government poured massive amounts of reserves in, accused banks of speculative currency trades and threatened them with fines. Now market is adjusting just a bit to it demand. Thats how it works sipleton. Ruble isn't getting stronger dumb fuck. You are looking at 17% inflation in first half of 2015. so fuck yes I would think sanctions are working. Its friday night so go finish you second bottle assclown. Your "free education" from Siberian Wallrug institute is ttaly useless here today.

dyna mo · 03-27-2015, 06:33 AM

3rd time: if the sanctions are not working, why did you ruskies curb your aggressive violent annexation of Ukraine?

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Whats wrong with those dates dipshit?

I'd forward this question to you, in a re-phrased version: what's wrong with your head, clown? Do you use it to eat only?

Your almighty president is a useless gasbag who can't do anything w/o fackups. Even such a simple thing as sanctions. You must be proud of him, right?

Horatio Caine · 03-27-2015, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

like I said, one page [ Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia ] sums everything up, the rest is just spin / propaganda... but either way, sure, you are right, you win... the $15B/month was used for "internal expenses" instead of stabilizing your currency...

Don't waste your time. Its Friday night so he's probably through his third bottle by now. Every stat is fake unless it comes out of Russian clown's ass. Just for the moth of February they lost 4.2% in foreign currency and gold reserves.

????????????? ??????? ?? ? ??????? ??????????? ?? 4,2% | ?????.??

Internal expenses my ass

Horatio Caine · 03-27-2015, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'd forward this question to you, in a re-phrased version: what's wrong with your head, clown? Do you use it to eat only?

Great comeback from dunk Russian clown drinking himself in oblivion because its Friday. have another pancake off my shovel diipshit

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

like I said, one page [ Monthly values | Databases | Bank of Russia ] sums everything up

Everything is a keyword. For example it sums up internal spending such as funding of Rosneft after its fackup with TNK-BP acquisition in 2013 etc. This have nothing to do with "burning out" of national reserves to support ruble. I thought this is obvious, but I was wrong

Guys you are like clones of each other. Where did you get your education? I'm a bit scared now, can't believe the lack of education is such a widespread problem for you...

Horatio Caine · 03-27-2015, 06:49 AM

Look, our board ass clown puts his own countries finance minister to dust

Sanctions don't work
Must be the notorious free education at Siberian Nose Picking Institute of technology.

Russia says inflation could reach 17% in 2015 - Business Insider

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Great comeback from dunk Russian clown drinking himself in oblivion because its Friday. have another pancake off my shovel diipshit

Apparently I've just hit you nerve, clown

...and have a nice weekend

Horatio Caine · 03-27-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Apparently I've just hit you nerve, clown

Some eastern european shitstain typing this from his tiny grandmother's apartment hit my nerve?

Get real son.

Oh and enjoy your traditional russian weekend activities

woj · 03-27-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Everything is a keyword. For example it sums up internal spending such as funding of Rosneft after its fackup with TNK-BP acquisition in 2013 etc. This have nothing to do with "burning out" of national reserves to support ruble. I thought this is obvious, but I was wrong

Guys you are like clones of each other. Where did you get your education? I'm a bit scared now, can't believe the lack of education is such a widespread problem for you...

so maybe that "internal spending" you talk about would include saving Russian companies that were effected by sanctions? obviously that's not the case either, right?

lets not play guessing games... just tell us where almost $150B of reserves went to during the past year?

arock10 · 03-27-2015, 07:20 AM

wow this thread went full denial already

Look at it this way.... The US started producing a bunch of oil, OPEC has dropped oil prices to fight it fucking Russia in the process. At $15bn a month Russia has under 2 years till bankruptcy at this rate

Once the US starts raising its interest rates the dollar will strengthen causing the oil price to drop further speeding up this too...

So yea, sanctions are no big deal, they may have caused some minor impact but compared to totally destruction of Russia's economy they have not done much

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

so maybe that "internal spending" you talk about would include saving Russian companies that were effected by sanctions?

Why don't you click at wikipedia link I gave you above? The Rosneft fackup with TNK-BP has happened in 2013. What sanctions are you talking about? Now get a report on Daily data | Databases | Bank of Russia for previous years (say for 2013) What do you see there? Right, you see this:

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I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but you know, there were no "sanctions" in 2013. How come?

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Originally Posted by arock10

The US started producing a bunch of oil, OPEC has dropped oil prices to fight it fucking Russia in the process. At $15bn a month Russia has under 2 years till bankruptcy at this rate

Once the US starts raising its interest rates the dollar will strengthen causing the oil price to drop further speeding up this too...

So yea, sanctions are no big deal, they may have caused some minor impact but compared to totally destruction of Russia's economy they have not done much

Correct. But not just because of the States of course. OPEC and Russia are still raising their oil production, so the oil price is go down. It's like shooting in the foot.

woj · 03-27-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Why don't you click at wikipedia link I gave you above? The Rosneft fackup with TNK-BP has happened in 2013. What sanctions are you talking about? Now get a report on Daily data | Databases | Bank of Russia for previous years (say for 2013) What do you see there? Right you see this:

I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but you know, there were no "sanctions" in 2013. How come?

what does data/events from 2013 have to do with anything? When real question is: what did your central bank do with the $150B that disappeared from their balance sheet in the past year? You are claiming it wasn't used to support the RUB and companies effected by sanctions, right? What do you think it was used for then?

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

lets not play guessing games... just tell us where almost $150B of reserves went to during the past year?

The oil price in past year has dropped in 2x times. The same happened to ruble and CBR spent billions trying to stabilize it w/o any success (in fact it's impossible to stabilize ruble w/o stabilization of oil prices). What "sanctions" are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by woj

what does data/events from 2013 have to do with anything?

Try to guess. It's getting more and more funny actually

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Originally Posted by woj

When real question is: what did your central bank do with the $150B that disappeared from their balance sheet in the past year?

I feel like an old teacher speaking to a kid. The oil price vs Russian ruble - google for it ;)

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Originally Posted by woj

You are claiming it wasn't used to support the RUB and companies effected by sanctions, right? What do you think it was used for then?

Hmm. I don't know should I smile or should I feel for you right now... Don't you read my posts at all, or my English is too bad for you?

xXXtesy10 · 03-27-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

56 rubles for 1USD today (it was as high as 70 rubles for a dollar just a couple of months ago). WTF is going on???

So Obama was lying when he said that "Russian economy is torn to pieces"? Is there something in this World he can do w/o fuckups? The people consider him as a clown who can do nothing but gab.

you leader is psychopath who wants to fuck with world, what do you expect?

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

you leader is psychopath who wants to fuck with world, what do you expect?

Yes he is. But how does it relate to this topic?

woj · 03-27-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

The oil price in past year has dropped in 2x times. The same happened to ruble and CBR spent billions trying to stabilizer it w/o any success. what "sanctions" are you talking about?

Try to guess. It's getting more and more funny actually

I feel like an old teacher speaking to a kid. The oil price vs Russian ruble - google for it ;)

Hmm. I don't know should I smile or feel for you right now... Don't you read my posts at all, or my English is too bad for you?

you can spin it however you want, doesn't matter what the reason is, it could be oil, it could be sanctions, or both, it doesn't matter...

the fact remains that your central bank sold $150B of USD in the past year in order to stabilize RUB... to this day they are pissing away $15B/month trying to desperately keep Russian currency/economy from collapsing...

which you claim they didn't... which is obviously wrong...

there is no reason to believe things will improve any time soon either, so you are about 2 years (or less) from a complete meltdown...

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

you can spin it however you want, doesn't matter what the reason is, it could be oil, it could be sanctions, or both, it doesn't matter

It does, actually. As the thread title says. Look at this graph again:

I don't see any sanctions there. Do you? This is an answer for your "could be". The stats are objective and they are not based on subjective "maybe", "could be", "let's imagine" etc.

You know how Obama's "sanctions" fairytale works for Putin propaganda here in Russia? He is happy to use that speech of your stupid president about "torn to pieces" Russian economy as an excuse for his own illiterate internal policy. When people here ask "WTF is going on with ruble?" He says it's because of Obama sanctions - blame him for your troubles. Like it's not because Putin has destroyed Russian economy which now almost fully depends on oil prices only. To sum it up: your useless clown president does a good job for Putin and his brainwashing machine.

I don't like Putin, and as long as Obama gives him head, I don't like him too. Is that clear enough for you now?

woj · 03-27-2015, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It does, actually. As the thread title says. Look at this graph again:

I don't see any sanctions there. Do you? This is an answer for your "could be". The stats are objective and they are not based on subjective "maybe", "could be", "let's imagine" etc.

You know how Obama's "sanctions" fairytale works for Putin propaganda here in Russia? He is happy to use that speech of your stupid president about "torn to pieces" Russian economy as an excuse for his own illiterate internal policy. When people here ask "WTF is going on with ruble?" He says it's because of Obama sanctions - blame him for your troubles. Like it's not because Putin has destroyed Russian economy which now almost fully depends on oil prices only. To sum it up: your useless clown president does a good job for Putin and his brainwashing machine.

I actually do see sanctions there, as I explained in another thread:
"in Feb sanctions started, and magically 10% gap between RUB and oil price appeared... in middle of June that gap is most clear... oil is up 5% while RUB is down 5%..."

so while the effect is not huge, it does add about 10% to RUB's decline...

crockett · 03-27-2015, 11:55 AM

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It does, actually. As the thread title says. Look at this graph again:

I don't see any sanctions there. Do you? This is an answer for your "could be". The stats are objective and they are not based on subjective "maybe", "could be", "let's imagine" etc.

You know how Obama's "sanctions" fairytale works for Putin propaganda here in Russia? He is happy to use that speech of your stupid president about "torn to pieces" Russian economy as an excuse for his own illiterate internal policy. When people here ask "WTF is going on with ruble?" He says it's because of Obama sanctions - blame him for your troubles. Like it's not because Putin has destroyed Russian economy which now almost fully depends on oil prices only. To sum it up: your useless clown president does a good job for Putin and his brainwashing machine.

I don't like Putin, and as long as Obama gives him head, I don't like him too. Is that clear enough for you now?

You are missing the point of the sanctions. The sanctions are not meant to destroy the Russian economy or in general harm the average Russian. This is not their purpose but yes to some effect they will have impact on daily Russian life but not a lot.

The purpose of the sanctions is to harm Putin's inner circle and his brosef's. It's meant to make things hard on the Russian Oligarchs whom run and own your country. Ask them how they like the sanctions, I bet you they aren't very happy. This is why Putin has eased up on Ukraine, because yes, they are working for their intended purpose.

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

so while the effect is not huge, it does add about 10% to RUB's decline...

And it does add +20% to it's growth during last two months. Ok, I've got it

dyna mo · 03-27-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You are missing the point of the sanctions. The sanctions are not meant to destroy the Russian economy or in general harm the average Russian. This is not their purpose but yes to some effect they will have impact on daily Russian life but not a lot.

The purpose of the sanctions is to harm Putin's inner circle and his brosef's. It's meant to make things hard on the Russian Oligarchs whom run and own your country. Ask them how they like the sanctions, I bet you they aren't very happy. This is why Putin has eased up on Ukraine, because yes, they are working for their intended purpose.

actually the sanctions are intended to stop the ruskie aggression on Ukraine.

thus my question asked and unanswered, i'll answer it here:

the sanctions are working because the ruskie aggressors are still at the negotiating table.

crockett · 03-27-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

actually the sanctions are intended to stop the ruskie aggression on Ukraine.

thus my question asked and unanswered, i'll answer it here:

the sanctions are working because the ruskie aggressors are still at the negotiating table.

Yes they are meant to force Russia aggression to end, but not by intention of doing great harm to their economy or raising the price of milk. It's more about putting pressure on Putin himself by making the Oligarchs unhappy with his actions.

The Russian Oligarchs are not too interested in penis waving, or trying to rebuild the USSR. They are interested in making lots of money on the backs of their populace and anything that cuts their profits are not going to make them happy. They are business men whom want to make lots of money. making no money makes them grumpy and puts pressure on Putin's soviet era dreams..

just a punk · 03-27-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You are missing the point of the sanctions. The sanctions are not meant to destroy the Russian economy or in general harm the average Russian.

Actually I knew that from the very beginning. The USA is not a major, second or even third trading partner for Russia (about 3-4% only which is nothing). You have no power to affect Russian economy somehow, and course your sanctions work against Putin-friendly oligarchs only. But why Obama has told that "the Russian economy is torn to pieces"? Now his speech works for Putin's propaganda here. Is he an idiot? Why don't you impeach that stupid chatterer already? He can't do a single thing w/o a public fackup. Even Bush Jr. was a way smarter than him.

dyna mo · 03-27-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yes they are meant to force Russia aggression to end, but not by intention of doing great harm to their economy or raising the price of milk. It's more about putting pressure on Putin himself by making the Oligarchs unhappy with his actions.

The Russian Oligarchs are not too interested in penis waving, or trying to rebuild the USSR. They are interested in making lots of money on the backs of their populace and anything that cuts their profits are not going to make them happy. They are business men whom want to make lots of money. making no money makes them grumpy and puts pressure on Putin's soviet era dreams..

right. i was just making sure OP understands that. it's not about russian people, it's not about ruskie oligarchs, it's about stopping putie and ruskie aggression on Ukraine.

he seems to completely not get that.

Horatio Caine · 03-27-2015, 01:28 PM

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