Members area traffic.. Worth it?

[Diomed]

I have purchased just about every type of paid traffic there is, except members area traffic.

Now, even though I know it's supposed to be higher quality in the fact that it has already gone through the filtration process and your poaching paid users.. My logic would raise the question if they are already in a paid members area or even unpaid that it would be that more difficult to get their mind to pull away from what they are doing and invest in a whole new pitch point.

Kind of seems like an information overload. Too many chefs in the kitchen, attention spans getting tugged everywhere type of thing.

Anyways.. I'm running some tests next week and I'll report back.

[jimmycooper]

Your logic is flawed from the start simply b/c the goal is not to 'poach', it is to complement.

[Penny24Seven]

It is the best there is. I don't even sell mine because it is almost worth 100% of what they paid in the first place.

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Brian837

It is the best there is. I don't even sell mine because it is almost worth 100% of what they paid in the first place.

So you should see double the value

[The Porn Nerd]

I don't sell mine either (and I have 88 Members Areas now).

The overall value of the lifetime of a customer is higher when you factor in cam sales, dating, other paysite sales, etc. But the main reason your logic is flawed is because Members get bored, even with the most outstanding and jam-packed Members Areas. Sure, some 'settle in" but many get restless and are always looking for something new to focus on.

This is why rebills are generally around 2-3 months.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Your logic is flawed from the start simply b/c the goal is not to 'poach', it is to complement.

Call poach the wrong adjective.

This is why I asked.. I've got a line on some rare members area traffic from a partner I regularly purchase other lines from and I've never ran test number one with MA traffic.

I've got some extremely high converting creatives lined up and I'm wondering which offers to start testing with, trying to get a feel if they want something in a similar arena or completely different.

Don't want to waste any of my exposure.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Your logic is flawed from the start simply b/c the goal is not to 'poach', it is to complement.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I don't sell mine either (and I have 88 Members Areas now).

The overall value of the lifetime of a customer is higher when you factor in cam sales, dating, other paysite sales, etc. But the main reason your logic is flawed is because Members get bored, even with the most outstanding and jam-packed Members Areas. Sure, some 'settle in" but many get restless and are always looking for something new to focus on.

This is why rebills are generally around 2-3 months.

Both good points to consider. Thanks.

[poncabare]

What type of paid members are you testing?

[DraX]

As long as it costs to get into the membersarea you can be sure the visitors from that area are verfied to be paying customers. The next importance is what sort of content most likely will interest the visitors from that membersarea. I know it does not have to be a regular niche like blowjob/solo/interracial just giving you some examples - but cams, penis pills or sex toys.

[The Porn Nerd]

The only issue I see is you may have to test longer than with other traffic you are used to. MA traffic is better (in theory) but also much smaller so it may take a longer time period to get decent metrics.

But hopefully you will see a jump in revenue right away and then you won't have to wait to find out. Good luck!

[kane]

Back in the day of AVS sites some of the best converting traffic I had came from the member's area of the AVS sites. These are porn fans who are willing to spend money on porn. The trick is to offer them the right thing. I always tried to advertise sites that were different, but would appeal to them.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by kane

Back in the day of AVS sites some of the best converting traffic I had came from the member's area of the AVS sites. These are porn fans who are willing to spend money on porn. The trick is to offer them the right thing. I always tried to advertise sites that were different, but would appeal to them.

Oh man those were the days!!

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Your logic is flawed from the start simply b/c the goal is not to 'poach', it is to complement.

he is a fucking idiot, please go easy

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

he is a fucking idiot, please go easy

Business as usual I see.

Keep up the troll you broke ass Indian. We all know you have nothing better to do then go into any thread relating to real business and take a shit.

One only need to look at your previous posts and the thread titles they are in. If it's anything to do with making money, there you are sounding off like a broken record.

I get it now.. :lightbulb: you resent others success? Send me your PayPal and I'll shoot ya 50 bucks to cover your rent for the next 3 months.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by DraX

As long as it costs to get into the membersarea you can be sure the visitors from that area are verfied to be paying customers. The next importance is what sort of content most likely will interest the visitors from that membersarea. I know it does not have to be a regular niche like blowjob/solo/interracial just giving you some examples - but cams, penis pills or sex toys.

With respect, I understand this.

It's always going to be dating and cams with me, but with a different* presentation and pitch point.

I do appreciate your time and considerstion. My question was more related to "is it really worth it", as it's pricey stuff and I get good enough returns on regular paid traffic but I wanted to see what all the fuss is about and a rare opportunity was presented to me.

It's a paid MA, but it also has other offers running. Pricey stuff, and I'm questioning if the returns are really going to be worth it.

I know for sure my creatives will out convert and out draw the other offers, but as mentioned above it's slow moving in terms of volume vs the buys I'm accustom to.

I hear all these great things about MA traffic, and the sites reputation is truly amazing.. (As I said its a rare offer which is the only reason I jumped), but there are quite a few other ads rolling in this MA and to me it just doesn't look like it's really "all that" in terms of real estate.

But again everyone swears by MA traffic, including my long term partner I buy from on a regular basis about this specific line.

It just doesn't look that impressive to me. I realize they are pre-filtered for productivity.. But at the cost of admission I'm just feeling a bit blah about it.

Perhaps looks can be deceiving, as again I've never run a single hit of MA traffic before. Maybe I just don't understand the punch it quietly un-assumingly packs :winwink

But come 9 days from now I guess I'm going to find out if it's worth pursuing more so down the road or if the margins vs cost of admission are just too similar to what I'm getting now with better volume and higher turn over.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

he is a fucking idiot, please go easy

Btw,

Did I mention you look nothing like a two bit crook who isn't pretending at all when he's talking shop with the big boys?

Feast your eyes on success in India:

[/CENTER]

Look at the designer shades XXXTESY is rocking.. Doesn't look like a sweaty jiggalo at all does he?

It's really a shame I actually wasted my time by trying to earnestly give you some sound advice about how to conduct yourself and spend your time more wisely. People and relationships are important son, but only if you prefer to actually make money.

Perhaps your happy living in your designer corrugation

[BAKO]

If you don't test you will never know.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Diomed

Call poach the wrong adjective.

This is why I asked.. I've got a line on some rare members area traffic from a partner I regularly purchase other lines from and I've never ran test number one with MA traffic.

I've got some extremely high converting creatives lined up and I'm wondering which offers to start testing with, trying to get a feel if they want something in a similar arena or completely different.

Don't want to waste any of my exposure.

Well, the important thing is that you test and find out. Seems like you'll be doing that so you'll be fine. good luck.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by BAKO

If you don't test you will never know.

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Well, the important thing is that you test and find out. Seems like you'll be doing that so you'll be fine. good luck.

Seems to be the case. I only bought I in a third of what I could have because I am a little dubious.

But this will be my first time testing prequalified traffic so maybe I'm in for a big surprise.. And maybe that is really all there is to it about it being so special and raved about.

I just thought there might be other variables going on that I was unaware of. Was trying to get a more comprehensive view.

Nothing To do I but to test I guess. Conversions need to be almost 3x my usual. Hopefully they are 5x.

Thanks for the advice fellas.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by kane

Back in the day of AVS sites some of the best converting traffic I had came from the member's area of the AVS sites. These are porn fans who are willing to spend money on porn. The trick is to offer them the right thing. I always tried to advertise sites that were different, but would appeal to them.

AVS still works