ianmoone332000

Yeah probably why that one model was asking people to sigbup under her affiliate code. Remember she was asking everyone to create the new account name starting with C_

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seriouslee

Not sure what's technically possible but couldn't outgoing links to chaturbate urls (including models affiliate sign up links) be redirected to a corresponding url of that particular whitelabel if the room is shown on a whitelabel and not on chaturbate directly?

pornuploader

This issue wouldn't be solved as long as there is conflict of interest between affiliates and broadcasters
Affiliate links should be disabled for cam models but CB definitely won't this one, They care more about the money is coming than us. Then one solution would be left, They should extend cookie lifetime to forever, I'm not sure that it is technically possible or not.

BigFurry

According to this it should be no problem to set a cookie to expire in 2038.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-li...es-expiry-date

Cookies can be lost though. Logging on from a different/new device, reinstall, etc.
It'd be good to re-add the cookie every time the registered user logs in. This would beat some of those "re-registering under the camgirl" tactics.

But still not helpful when the visitor is smart enough to log off, and delete the cookies before re-registering (or simply starting incognito mode in the browser).
For this there should be additional tracking methods next to cookies, eg. some smart IP tracking.

Would be also very effective to move back users to original affiliate if a new user adds a credit card that has been used before on Chaturbate by a different member.

drexl

..but then models would block non-chaturbate sites. (they can do this in their settings)

Allowing affiliate links on the site is an aberration!

we can discuss solutions, alternatives and policies all we want, if cb has decided to go down this road there's nothing we can do. we could be here another year.

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seriouslee

Despite the setting to opt out of appearance on "chaturbate network sites", opting out of whitelabels makes no sense really. Some affiliates make own profiles, take a lot of snapshots, even video recordings. Some are hard to distinguish from pirate sites. I can see why models want to opt out of that. Also these profiles do not get deleted when the chaturbate model account gets deleted. And there is the issue of geo blocks from models, not sure if existing geo blocks get passed on to affiliates through the API.

But whitelabels, basically just copies of chaturbate, are anothr thing entirely and opting out of these makes no sense in my opinion. I'm all for giving people choices but the choice to opt out of whitelabels breaks the principle and purpose of whitelabels. Model geo blocks should apply to whitelabels too (if they don't, I don't know this).

drexl

I know what you mean. In my case i use the API to display live info (nothing that the broadcaster doesn't agree to share) and I don't store metadata even for short time caching.

Other sponsors I use have a technical solution to this: you pass on the current user's IP so the feed returns relevant models. And there is also a mention in the TOS that ip must be passed. Chaturbate could EASILY implement this.

You cannot opt out of the API and remain in whitelabels. The same settings control both.

Anyway, another constraint for webmasters as I see it, we can talk about all problems but then as Punk Barbie rightly said: "there is a lot of moving parts in this thread". So let's focus on one problem: the leaks.

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MFCT

Did Chaturbate change something in the API, or are they having issues?

All my IFrames are giving this error today:

And the thumbnails, some of them display and some don't, seemingly at random.

The Chaturbate Status page indicates no problems. So IDK if I need to do some coding to account for any changes to the API. Or if I just need to wait it out for it to be fixed.

Or, hmm, maybe I just need to restart my XML parser? It has been a while, come to think of it.

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sarettah

My API driven sites seem to be working properly.

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MFCT

Thanks sarettah it must be some fuckup on my end, then. I'll look into it. Thanks for the feedback.

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drexl

Presumably some issues on your end, I tried the links in your sig and got an error.

The Chaturbate API seems to be working for me too at the time I am writing.

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seriouslee

Megafapper, how about you apologize for your accusations that chaturbate worked together with Mila_ and some other broadcasters that you mentioned? You were given the tinfoil hat here already. Now man up and apologize for your conspiracy stuff that you spread here.

megafapper

seriouslee, I wrote only that someone from cb support is working together. not all support.

Bots are still on the first places, good example
https://chaturbate.com/emilybrowm/

I will not write a fake viewers names here, because it was too hard to find them.
CB don't care about bots until it bring them money. So cheaters will be forever on CB.

P.S. Situation is much better right now, but does not good.

magneto664

Are you morons?
do you really believe in this nonsense.
you think that someone is watching a model because he has a lot of people on the channel.
Morons.
If you do not like a model, you watch a different one.
Do you watch a blank screen on TV or switch to another channel where a nice movie is flying?
I did not know that there were so many morons here.

Condolences for support chaturbate - they must discuss with you.

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seriouslee

You are a real people's person, you must be great fun at parties. Yeah, I'm sorry too for everyone at cb support having to read your mails assuming you will approach them with the same tone you write here.

megafapper

They watch because model on top. Most of users don't scroll down, especially on the mobile devices. Fake viewers allow to stick on the one of the first places where the tokens flow.

More than 2 month many models cheated the system, and support ignored all abuses about it. How can I explain it? Only that someone in cb support works together.
If support did something in time, than it was totally different situation.

megafapper

Maybe its only my conspiracy theories, BUT if I didn't write here and on the other forum (where I'm banned now), situation was the same.

CB support is DOING SOMETHING now. Final result will be seen in the nearest future.

megafapper

I wish conversion rate will return to the previous good levels for all webmasters

CamTraffic

Holy crap, thanks for pointing it out. I am pulling the traffic on that one.

Fuck me once, shame on you.

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Of course the model at the top gets the complete popup and
iframe promo traffic of all webmasters.

ianmoone332000

Im still hoping from an answer from Punker on how example 3 works?

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MFCT

I've narrowed it down to being a hosting problem. GoDaddy business hosting.

"GoDaddy? That's your problem right there."

I know, I know. When GoDaddy works, it works wonderfully. When it doesn't, you're pretty much fucked as far as getting tech support, or getting them to admit to a problem. The only realistic thing I can do is sit back and hope they get it sorted out.

For the record, the error messages I'm getting with the Chaturbate IFrames fluctuate randomly between the 503 error I posted above, and this one:

I'm nowhere close to my limits on disk space, number of files, or anything else. Nothing from Chaturbate, images or video, is saved on the server. All I know is the problem is somehow related to PHP, which I'm using the latest version.

I suspect they over-sell their overall hosting capacity. And instead of upgrading hardware when they reach limits, they try to come up with methods to just make it work. Hence, the baffling errors that pop up from time to time.

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TurboB

GoDaddy business hosting ?
Why are you using such an expensive hosting ?
This is VPS or dedicated server ? I think by plans listed on GD it should be week VPS or even shared.

After many readings i decided to use Contabo VPS. I am on their server half a year and did not had any single problem by their side.

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P.S. Sorry for a little off topic post.

Shoplifter

These models show up in the iframes as "embed top chat room" so I gather a lot of surfers are watching them.

magneto664

SO WHAT? embed iframe save cookie anyway. Fuck watchers spenders are important.

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magneto664

Did you read what shit you wrote?

I don't know how to call you, a fucking idiot or a fucking trash.

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drexl

Good to see you're on track to resolution.

My advice would be to move your stuff over to a new hosting solution. The main issue you have is support is not answering. I recommend M3 Server.

M3 have a bad ass support team that will assist you promptly and they proactively monitor for any issues.

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Il recommend Mojohost. Best i have used since i started owning sites

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PornGrowsOnTrees

How is everyone doing now? More signups & less revenue for me. One guy vanished that used to give me a good amount... hope he comes back.

How many new spenders has everyone else had this year? I have around 6 new spenders this year but they don't seem to spend much.

seriouslee

Mila has started a campaign displaying her as the victim of discrimination from cb and that megafapper made cb manually take her away from the top spot and cb replaced her with other girls. Ridiculous claim but I'm sure many of her users will believe her.

Milarky_ on twitter.

Megafapper, you are clearly obsessed with a handful of models, you see conspiracies everywhere, you accused cb of cooperating, you published a mail that had "confidentially" in it.
I do not doubt your intentions were okay basically but the way you did it, the confrontational way you wrote created the potential of backfiring against you and it also have Mila a very good starting point for her conspiracies now that cb cooperates with you against her and other models.

So once again, consider an apology, at least towards cb, because they ARE doing something and have acted against bots in chat rooms. Very late and not quick enough but that's the way things are in life and in companies sometimes.

ianmoone332000

Anyone been paid yet?

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ianmoone332000

And can someone answer something else. I do not use whitelabels. Is there an option to ban a model from appearing on your whitelabel if you choose?. I noticed that Mila in her video saying she no longer appears on promo tools etc and just wondered if people had blocked her cause she was asking folk to create a new account under her link?

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seriouslee

It's possible but come on, the number of cb affiliates is in the hundreds or thousands and this forum is tiny compared to that. Who could coordinate such a thing? It's impossible.

Mila is building up a story here, so that as many of her followers as possible sign up on myfreecams under HER myfreecams affiliate link so she can go "Ka-ching" while playing the victim. She even "advises" guys to buy the biggest possible token package on myfreecams with their new accounts.

Despite her aggressive affiliate things, I never had anything against her but now she apparently shows her true face and it's not a very nice one.

Chaturbate pushing nude rooms is absolutely absurd to begin with. If any rooms do NOT need pushing, it's nude rooms. Hello? Adult site?

Beaver1

That means she fucks Crak Revenue now

megafapper

Hello everyone again!

About conversion rate. I get much more registrations. But all my spenders already gone (I collected them a long period of time). And usually when spender is gone, he will not return
So, I hope a new registrations will convert to spenders in the nearest future.

Right now cb is doing something, their new algorithms work like napalm, removed many low quality botted room from the main page, but it didn't work for most botted rooms - they are still on the top, but usually not on the first place (from the second to 6-th).
I don't know current percentage of each place in rotation (it can be changed often), but year before the first place get more than 50% of "top/best converting room" codes.

I monitor cb last week and I can say the new system is a little step to the right direction, but it still works really bad - didn't work for top botted rooms and too many false positive reactions for models without bots. So using bots, especially a huge amout of bots are still profitable and will be used by many models. I think fake viewers it is the only success condition for the models right now at cb.

I wrote about corruption in the cb support, because support didn't do anything a long period of time. Problem with bots was all last years, but last 2 or months it was out of control with total silence from cb side and ignorance of the problem. Referral stealing using banner over main cb links also was during looooong period of time and cb didn't do anything with it, especially with top botted models. How could it be explained? Only like corruption of someone in the cb support.

And about Mila_
I'm enemy number one for her! And I'm banned on ACF community by her help.
Yes, she can can talk very well and she is good in propaganda.

She is whining that she does not on the first place. She don't want 3-d or 4-th place.
Last broadcast she got 3-5 places very fast and rotation rate of these places more rare for "top room" codes.
I can understand her, because she is cheater and she want more than 50% of all traffic, not only 5% for lower places!

Self written white labels can hide and any model if they want. White label can get all data over api and display exactly as programmer needs.

Brian mike

no for me

Brian mike

ianmoone332000

Cheers Brian. Least i know its not just me

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seriouslee

Understaffed and unaware AND slow in making decisions. Shit just happens, in life and especially in companies. I'm this close to making a tweet "#nocollusion"

sarettah

8chars

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zhenyoung

NO for me [paxum]

zhenyoung

Payment has been received.

drexl

Models don't seem to be allowed:

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seriouslee

twitter . com/Milarky_/status/1118718696267091973

This is a crakrevenue affiliate link.

"Also buy the biggest package because they will make you verify yourself to raise your daily limit and I don’t know how quickly they respond"

How selfless, she must have "forgotten" to add, how she gets an additional 20% of the revenue then.

Brian mike

same here .. Received

drexl

You are correct. It is offer 779 MyFreeCams - Revshare Lifetime.
According to CrakRevenue, she isn't entitled to apply to this offer.

I guess this is yet another illustration that social media is used to a detrimental effect, cb should stop leaking to Twitter and allow the sharing of personal details such as emails.
Milarky seems very vocal but in the background it is rampant.
When you know that a single whale can spend 100k in a year...

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same here as always

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Beaver1

Today shes back on cb top position since hours.

drexl

Same here

Never had an issue with payments coming from Chaturbate.

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megafapper

She is too greedy to broadcast without bots. Bots are still profitable at cb.